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Matt Trulio 08-16-2022 09:12 AM

Elite Audio Kicking It In The Desert
 
Not everyone needs a $100,000 Kicker Marine Audio sound system with 28,000 amps in a 26-foot deckboat, but it’s nice to know what’s possible, https://www.speedonthewater.com/elit...in-the-desert/

DrFeelgood 08-16-2022 09:32 AM

Power is measured in watts.

Wally 08-16-2022 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by DrFeelgood (Post 4841745)
Power is measured in watts.

everyone always looks at the watts values but they should be looking at the RMS values instead ;)

Wildman_grafix 08-16-2022 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4841754)
everyone always looks at the watts values but they should be looking at the RMS values instead ;)

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DrFeelgood 08-16-2022 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4841754)
everyone always looks at the watts values but they should be looking at the RMS values instead ;)

It's still watts. RMS watts.

Wally 08-16-2022 11:57 AM

true...but when they list peak watts its only able to handle it for short bursts. The RMS value is what it can handle continuously without compromising sound quality or getting distortion. if you compared two speakers and they are both 100watts but one is 100 watts peak while the other is 100 watts RMS i'll take the second one every time :)

RSCHAP1 08-16-2022 12:13 PM

28,000 AMPlifiers would be a LOT

cheech 08-16-2022 12:35 PM

I just hope the error was on the article writer and didn't quote the subject of the article.
I know it's semantics.
To each their own but I don't consider a guy that's supposed to be an audio expert, that claims he has 28,000 amps of power in his boat an expert. :picard1:

Wildman_grafix 08-16-2022 02:13 PM

I should stay out of this but can't.

Few things, first watts that a speaker can handle means NOTHING about the performance other then the voice coil can dissipate that heat. Don't want to get into a deep dive on this but it really in a lot of ways is a meaningless spec that the aftermarket uses.

Think of it this way, a speaker will put out so much SPL at a input voltage of lets say 12VAC and the signal will have 10% THD. Maybe that sound pressure lever is 90 db. That speaker may only be able to handle 14-15 volts before all kinds of bad things happen.

Another speaker may at the same voltage and THD only put out 75db. But it can handle 18 volts. Is it better? Maybe, maybe not, much less efficient for sure. The point is how many watts the speaker can handle is not a measure of its performance.

Frequency range, smoothness of the response, output distortion over that range, its off axis response, total SPL its capable of etc is a true measure of the performance.

You will not see that data in the aftermarket.

As for this boat system, the big thing to me is what kind of battery power it has to drive all that equipment.

If you are wondering, I have been a audio person my whole life (one reason I got a EE degree) and also spent 15 years as a senior audio system engineer for one of the largest global audio companies in the world. I have had the pleasure of working with people like Jim Fosgate, Richard Small, Don Keele, Floyd Toole, Sean Olive and others that have spent most of their working careers advancing our knowledge of sound reproduction.

Sorry, rant over.



Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4841764)
true...but when they list peak watts its only able to handle it for short bursts. The RMS value is what it can handle continuously without compromising sound quality or getting distortion. if you compared two speakers and they are both 100watts but one is 100 watts peak while the other is 100 watts RMS i'll take the second one every time :)


Matt Trulio 08-16-2022 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by DrFeelgood (Post 4841745)
Power is measured in watts.

Right you are—and corrected above.

"The word “amp” (A) is short for “ampere”, one of the standard units of measurement used to define measurements of electricity. An amp is one unit of constant electrical current. “Amperage” is the strength of that current, expressed in amps (or “amperes”). If you were to think of electricity as water through a hose, amps would be the water."


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