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Smarty 11-01-2022 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4850107)
The one that made me LOL was the Deep Impact 369 CC STARTING at $620k. LMFAO

I wasn't a prospect before you posted the price and I will never be a prospect for that brand, that size, at that price. I agree, $620K???

1MOSES1 11-01-2022 01:47 PM

It wasnt just the PPP loans. It’s the wealth effect. People saw there 401k, IRA’s, home values, and portfolios sky rocketing.

Wildman_grafix 11-01-2022 02:22 PM

Oh I know, I was just having fun with a fellow Indianapolis guy. Hell I know some friends that got PPP for "Clubs" they had incorporated.

As for the feds keeping rates low, yes they did that for far to long. But a lot of large banks, investment firms etc sure liked it didn't they? I assume you will have a much better viewpoint of the investment firms considering your lively hood.


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https://www.thebalancemoney.com/fed-...s-lows-3306135


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4850190)
There were literally $Trillions in stimulus thrown at Covid. Just - and I mean just - PPP alone gave away nearly $1 Trillion. I know a guy who's business was going gangbusters during Covid and his company still got $1.9 Million in PPP relief loans, all forgiven = free money in his pocket. Another friend nearly $500k. All forgiven. That on top of the roaring Fed-induced Bull market in stocks because of the Fed's near-zero interest rates.

Here's a list of PPP grants. The awards start out at $10 Million and go down from there. The PPP program was SUPPOSED to just help just small business. The list is 177,880 pages long. Not 177,880 awards - 177,880 PAGES OF AWARDS. Covid 19 created the biggest money giveaway in the history of mankind thanks to our government.
Search Latest PPP Loan List (ppp-loan.info)

Try as they might the Fed still cannot get unemployment to tick up. Too many peeps flush with Gov cash who have no need or desire to work.


Marginmn 11-01-2022 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4850210)
Oh I know, I was just having fun with a fellow Indianapolis guy. Hell I know some friends that got PPP for "Clubs" they had incorporated.

As for the feds keeping rates low, yes they did that for far to long. But a lot of large banks, investment firms etc sure liked it didn't they? I assume you will have a much better viewpoint of the investment firms considering your lively hood.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a1331cad22.jpg




https://www.thebalancemoney.com/fed-...s-lows-3306135

Yes the stock market was a fun way to earn a living during Covid - before the Fed took away the punch bowl anyways. I just wish that my capital gains during the Covid19 crisis were taxed at the same rate as PPP - ZERO! :)

Jupiter Sunsation 11-01-2022 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4850110)
Not sure I would use a boat show as a metric for measuring a recession…99% is curiousity vs. serious buyers. Just my opinion.

Years ago my brother in law was a manufacturer (3rd generation yacht builder), at the end of the boat show they would blow the yacht's horns to signal sales. I can remember it sounding like a tornado was approaching with all the horns blowing (04-05-06).............by 2010 no bank in the US would finance a yacht even with 25% down, then the used market tanked/creating deals in the marketplace so why build new! Trouble was brewing and by 2013-14 their manufacturing business was sunk.

Back then they had to treat everybody at the show like they were a buyer, with the bank financing it was possible for a lot of buyers to be in the market for a 2-3mm yacht. Today I'd think with a shrinking buying pool, they would still have to kiss azz at the dock just in case the guy in the Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts might be a buyer too!

hogie roll 11-01-2022 07:21 PM

That does it, I’m listing the Marlago 😂

For real though

Interceptor 11-01-2022 07:58 PM

People were buying build slots to resell later at a profit.

302Sport 11-01-2022 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4850251)
People were buying build slots to resell later at a profit.

When those people sense the market turning and back out, all of a sudden 3 year backlogs for new builds become “we can get you into a new boat in a couple months” pretty quickly.

1MOSES1 11-01-2022 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4850255)
When those people sense the market turning and back out, all of a sudden 3 year backlogs for new builds become “we can get you into a new boat in a couple months” pretty quickly.

I think we are already there…people just don’t know it yet…🙃

lear60man 11-01-2022 09:35 PM

I fly private jets. I can say that at least one one flight last year, 8 out of the 12 people got PPP loans. How do I know, because when I googled their names, it was the first result. People like "PPP loan recipient of $28,684....Hostes at Outback." At least they blew their PPP loan money quickly.


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