Towing with gas trucks
11-21-2022, 07:08 PM
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i have this one i could let go, i have my eye on a sportchassis
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11-22-2022, 07:16 AM
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My take is that there are a lot of used diesel trucks that you can buy, get reasonable, if not perfect reliability out of, and sell in 5 years for what you paid for it. A lot easier than modifying your gas motor.
I owned a 7.3 Ford, put 100k miles on it and I believe I sold it for 800 less than I paid for it if memory serves. You probably don't want something that old but I bet with a 20-30k budget you could pull it off....
I owned a 7.3 Ford, put 100k miles on it and I believe I sold it for 800 less than I paid for it if memory serves. You probably don't want something that old but I bet with a 20-30k budget you could pull it off....
I mean he is pulling a 27 fountain single engine fountain.
11-22-2022, 07:29 AM
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11-22-2022, 08:25 AM
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IMO your expecting too much out of a gas truck.
Gas engines need RPM to make power. Period.
A newer truck with an 8 or 10 speed will handle that boat no problem.
I also have a 27' Fountain. My last 4 trucks have been as follows. 2007 Silverado 5.3L 4 speed, 2016 Silverado 5.3L 6 speed, 2019 Silverado 5.3L 8 speed, 2021 F-150 3.5L 10 Speed.
The more gears the transmission has the better the truck pulls from a power standpoint. It's easier to find a gear around 3,500-4,000rpm that feels effortless with the 8 speed truck vs the 4 speed truck needing to go to 5,000rpm at what seems like WOT because the gear spread was massive.
Gas engines need RPM to make power. Period.
A newer truck with an 8 or 10 speed will handle that boat no problem.
I also have a 27' Fountain. My last 4 trucks have been as follows. 2007 Silverado 5.3L 4 speed, 2016 Silverado 5.3L 6 speed, 2019 Silverado 5.3L 8 speed, 2021 F-150 3.5L 10 Speed.
The more gears the transmission has the better the truck pulls from a power standpoint. It's easier to find a gear around 3,500-4,000rpm that feels effortless with the 8 speed truck vs the 4 speed truck needing to go to 5,000rpm at what seems like WOT because the gear spread was massive.
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11-22-2022, 08:40 AM
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Gas engines need RPM to make power. Period.
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11-22-2022, 09:57 AM
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2021 F-150 3.5L 10 Speed.
Does the twin turbo 3.5 make a good tow vehicle? Turbos power it up the hills without a lot of downshifting?
Does the twin turbo 3.5 make a good tow vehicle? Turbos power it up the hills without a lot of downshifting?
11-22-2022, 12:05 PM
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2022 F150 with the tow package 3.73 and 2.7 ecoboost pulls my 26' Martini with all the gear 4 people and full tanks effortless. Something about the twin turbos that tow similar to my old power stroke. It doesn't search for gears and rarely downshifts going up hills. The boat/trailer is right around the 6,000lbs mark with all the gear. I recently drove from Michigan to New York for a fun run and got 15.5 MPG at 70-75 the whole way there and back. The truck is very stable and stops just fine with the help of trailer brakes.
Then as a daily it gets 21-23mpg on average weekly commuting to work. Very satisfied with this truck.
I’d probably start thinking about a 250 around the 8,000lbs mark IMO
Then as a daily it gets 21-23mpg on average weekly commuting to work. Very satisfied with this truck.
I’d probably start thinking about a 250 around the 8,000lbs mark IMO
In comparison, Nov of 2021 we towed 3 touring Harleys (3000#) on an open steel car hauler (I'd say 2500 to 3000#) from Cincinnati to Marathon FL with my buddies F150 with the 3.5 Eco, uncertain of what year maybe a 2019.
All said and done if I remember right the dash was reporting 9.8ish MPG. We threw a ton of fuel in it. When I drove it highway, I'd say 75 to 80, noticed it very rarely went into 10th gear, few instances where stayed in 8th.
11-22-2022, 12:35 PM
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Oh how I miss my 8.1/Allison Dually !!!
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11-22-2022, 12:55 PM
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The torque curve is completely different than a standard naturally aspirated small block V8. It makes torque at a very low RPM. Rarely going over 4,000rpm unless you're really getting after it.
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