Probably neither of them.

Todd seems to have a history of screwing people. Probably building boats hoping to make a buck and just keeps getting deeper and deeper "in the hole". The buyer gets fed-up with whatever transpired and shows up and takes a boat......ANY boat. I saw somewhere that the buyer claims Todd gave him the boat but I got the impression from that comment it might have been "coerced".

I guess it still surprises me that in this relatively close-knit community, this stuff can and obviously DOES happen. A lot of you guys are either movers and shakers in this world or hob-nob with those folk yet some uh...people with certain moral ambiguity...can seemingly THRIVE.
SMH

It's a shame because Jay had originally built Spectre into a great brand. At this point, I would not buy a boat that wasnt from the "original" Spectre. 1997ish-2005ish?
Even if Todd is 100% in the right, why would you ever post it on social media? Drama drama drama. There are plenty of manufactures in legal battles...none of which chose Facebook as a proper outlet.

The Todd Lamb/Spectre interstate fraud continues
 

Todd has now sold a boat with UCC liens to a realtor out of Michigan Mike Lucas a known fence and associate of his criminal enterprise.

Unreal no ethics :readinghelp: I bet some of these clowns grab huge down payments drag feet for a year and collect 5 - 6% from banks ??? Settle and still walk away with your funds and no boat ? Sad & Evil lawyers make out!

Apparently I have to have an account now to use the Marketplace. Seems most people are using that now.

Not keen om that at all.

Interesting turn of events

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?i...79177742171399

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When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d4ba0f53b.jpeg

Wow. Always nice to see a clear judgment on something that has had a lot of back and forth accusations. Its too bad some of the victims were drug through the mud online while all this BS went on.