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Old 03-20-2023 | 07:13 PM
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Sorry to hear Dan.. you`ll have no issues with the Crowers.. unless they use the wrong polly nut .
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Old 03-20-2023 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scarabman
I had Crane Golds in my Innovation/Volvo 600s with 400 plus high revving hours, and never an issue. Mine were pre 2008 vintage
Anyone know the innovation 600 cam specs?
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Old 03-20-2023 | 08:04 PM
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I had the aluminum Jesels that started breaking on me, so a couple grand later I was switched over to steel.

On the CMI issue - inflation is a killer!! Used to be 200 bucks or so to get them welded. My bill last week was $880. Brutal....
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Old 03-20-2023 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by H20 Toie
yep those are what i had, Going with Crowler enduro stainless


Dang. Sorry to hear that. I am running those as well in my 502. Have not had any issues. However, might pick up a set and change them out before boating season gets going just for peace of mind. Would the pushrods have to be changed as well?
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Old 03-21-2023 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
that is the wrong polly nut for those rockers
I am aware...that was a pic from the first motor shop that screwed me that's been talked about in other threads....that is NOT how my engine is set up now...bought new rockers because of this but still the crane golds....was the only pic I had handy lol thanks for lookin out tho!!
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Old 03-21-2023 | 08:13 AM
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COMP 1620 is a great replacement. ALWAYS check your geometry but we've found they're very close to the golds.
We always replace rockers on a 250hr valve job. I don't know why saving $4-500 is so important to some people on a $50,000 engine.
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Lifters, Rockers, Competition 3 Angle valve job, head milling, ISKY 8205SP Springs, retainers, seals, locks, all fuel filters, plugs, wires, supercharger oil (if applicable), Mercury intake gaskets, cometic head gaskets, water pump impeller, water pump oil, manley valves, if the headers were leaking it likely needs ex valve guides...we do that too, reassembly and dyno testing. What's delivered is as close to a new engine as possible. Any less isn't acceptable. I see people (and marinas....and engines shops...) all the time slap a new set of springs on a 700 and call it a day. That is NOT a valve job. Nor is lapping in the old valves. These are 500-700HP race engines in a very tough environment. They should be maintained as such....they arent a 502 in a Camaro.
Boats are in 4th gear going uphill all day. No coasting, no shifting.
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This is what I have done to stabilize my valve train. Crower Pro Magnum rockers, Isky 8205SP springs, ARP studs and a stud girdle.



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Old 03-21-2023 | 09:19 AM
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Asking because I'm not familiar with either currently....do you get the same result if you run stud girdles vs running shaft rockers? Wondering advantages/disadvantages to either option?

Thanks!
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Old 03-21-2023 | 09:50 AM
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I thought people were moving away from aluminum to steel rockers?
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Old 03-21-2023 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BBYSTWY
Asking because I'm not familiar with either currently....do you get the same result if you run stud girdles vs running shaft rockers? Wondering advantages/disadvantages to either option?

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No. Stud girdles a re a great budget way to help stabilize valvetrain. Nothing is a stable as good shaft mount rocker arms. TnD, Jesel, etc.
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