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2015Duramax 05-17-2024 10:55 AM

Fastest Most Stable 32'-35' V Hull?
 
Looking for first hand information on speeds and stability on 32'-35' V hulls . Looking for information on 100+ MPH boats . I currently own a Hustler 388 slingshot that runs just over the 100mph mark. I have owned fountains, Skaters , Eliminators and Numerous Allison's. I currently live on a lake the will not allow anything over 35' to be on a lift. if its over 35' it can not be left at your dock over 3 days hence the reason Im looking for in put on 32-35 Hulls . Thanks for any information or insight provided.

Smarty 05-17-2024 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898357)
Looking for first hand information on speeds and stability on 32'-35' V hulls . Looking for information on 100+ MPH boats . I currently own a Hustler 388 slingshot that runs just over the 100mph mark. I have owned fountains, Skaters , Eliminators and Numerous Allison's. I currently live on a lake the will not allow anything over 35' to be on a lift. if its over 35' it can not be left at your dock over 3 days hence the reason Im looking for in put on 32-35 Hulls . Thanks for any information or insight provided.

The 34’ Phantom was easy to drive and predictable at 92 mph, I do not have seat time at 100 mph in the Phantom. I also like the 34’ Tuff Marine, for a lake boat that maybe a great option (there may be a backlog on build time).

This should be a very interesting thread, I hope you find what you’re looking for

https://phantomboats.com/models

https://www.tuffboats.com/tuff-34






WhiteNoise 05-17-2024 11:36 AM

I'm bias but a 30/33' Sutphen (if you can find one) is a beast with big power. Haven't had seat time in a Superboat, but the 30' Y2Ks have always had a special place in my heart (Shout out to Team RUFSTR).

cigrocket 05-17-2024 12:03 PM

35' TS Cigarette. I had the Playboy

midwestcoast 05-17-2024 12:56 PM

I think an outerlimits 29 is one of the best looking boats out right now. Looks like a dream to trailer too...

Sydwayz 05-17-2024 03:10 PM

42' Fountain :D

Just kidding. Look into the 32' and 33' Active Thunder.
32' straight bottom
33' DDC single step bottom

If it were me, I'd try putting "Hustler 344 Cheetah" graphics all over the 388, and just wait to be challenged. Have a custom cover made that says "Hustler 344" down the side of it in GIANT OBNOXIOUS graphics.
The Hustler 388 is really only a 36' boat to begin with as the swim platform is added into the length.

Nate5.0 05-17-2024 06:33 PM

Have to think super boats, 29 adrenaline, 29 OL, and Phantom have to be top of the list boats at that speed and size for stability.

There is a twin O/B OL 29 for sale that is stunning and is a 100mph boat

Indy 05-17-2024 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4898390)
Have to think super boats, 29 adrenaline, 29 OL, and Phantom have to be top of the list boats at that speed and size for stability.

There is a twin O/B OL 29 for sale that is stunning and is a 100mph boat

Those 29 OLs are stunning.

bencini231 05-17-2024 08:52 PM

The 33 Active Thunder is a good choice with 525's you'll be in the low 90's and have a boat that handles big water very well. Add whipples to that and your 108+ mph. Big Thunder Marine has a very nice on for sale at LOTO. There are some good choices out there and many differences betweeen them all. Good luck on finding what you want.

Hoodoo 2.0 05-17-2024 09:43 PM

Vinny’s 34 ran 99 with 525’s and is an easy 110 with current 509/whipples and the Phantom’s won’t try to kill ya.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...839ff580f.jpeg

Twin O/B Sonic 05-18-2024 06:46 AM

This should be an interesting thread 😉

I second the 34 Tuff.

I think they were into the high 120’s w/a 1150 and are expecting more more when they switch it to 1350!

It looks like a small lake boat though.

More of a 34’ Allison Vs a traditional, offshore boat.

If you want a killer lake boat though…., it would be a true cat killer!

I think it went one teens w/twin OBs too.

Dont forget the Velocitiy’s either.

I think the twin OB is a 32’….., and went 109 w/twin 450R’s.

Hoodoo 2.0 05-18-2024 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteNoise (Post 4898360)
I'm bias but a 30/33' Sutphen (if you can find one) is a beast with big power. Haven't had seat time in a Superboat, but the 30' Y2Ks have always had a special place in my heart (Shout out to Team RUFSTR).


I really like the Sutphen idea but as you said very hard to find.
The 32 speed skiff is 100+ but limited to lake or bay with its limited freeboard.
I don’t think any of these boats mentioned in this thread are real threats to similar size outboard cats though.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2ac009499.jpeg

302Sport 05-18-2024 07:11 AM

What’s your budget??

Wildman_grafix 05-18-2024 08:18 AM

Well since you said a lake that has a size limit I assume rough water capability doesn’t matter.

A 35 staggered fountain if you want a I/O or if you want newer the 29 Velocity with twin 400 or 450 will run over a 100.

like many have said the tuff also in I/O or OB.

Twin O/B Sonic 05-18-2024 10:41 AM

Power to power, probably not.

My comment was more toward the numerous 95 - 105 mph IOs I see around.

I have two buddies in Fla, one w/a 32’ Skater and one w/a 34’ Wright, and both are knocking on 140’s door!

I think w/450’s.



Originally Posted by Hoodoo 2.0 (Post 4898424)
I don’t think any of these boats mentioned in this thread are real threats to similar size outboard cats though

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2ac009499.jpeg


VetteLT193 05-18-2024 10:45 AM

Do you want a big boat, small boat, or something in the middle?
Examples
Tuff: fast but tiny
cigarette: middle sized
Donzi 33 ZX daytona: huge for the length, Kevlar bottom, takes power well and has a usable cabin

those 3 couldn't be anymore different. If you narrow us down to how you use the boat besides going fast it might help



Jupiter Sunsation 05-18-2024 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4898376)

If it were me, I'd try putting "Hustler 344 Cheetah" graphics all over the 388, and just wait to be challenged. Have a custom cover made that says "Hustler 344" down the side of it in GIANT OBNOXIOUS graphics.
The Hustler 388 is really only a 36' boat to begin with as the swim platform is added into the length.


I lived in an HOA that barred any pickups over 1/2 ton. I bought a 2500 Duramax and stuck 1500 door logos on it. Never heard a peep from the HOA!
Atleast once a month at a gas station someone would say they didn't know they made a 1500 diesel........so I'd either tell the story or tell the guy yeah they are special order.

I traded the truck at a Ford dealer and a diesel tech bought it but even he didn't believe it was a diesel until he popped the hood. Last time I saw the truck it still had the 1500 logos.

105Fountain 05-18-2024 11:33 AM

I had to go under 30' got a 29' Fountain 2 x big blocks mid west ! We have limit 30' but have seen bigger on lifts dumb rule huge canal? I did figure it out selective enforcement by condo board:hitfan:? Good luck don't rule out 29' Fountain fast and low price!

2015Duramax 05-18-2024 02:42 PM

The lake I live on is pretty big and gets chopped up on the weekends. I would say 2’-3’ on average and on a bad day you could see 3’-5’. As far as boat size I don’t want a small boat . I want something I can take to poker runs and still have enough boat to run if the conditions aren’t great . I was considering a 344 Cheetah since I like my 388 so much . But they have the same issue as my 388 above 90mph they get loose . I have my 388 where it runs good over 90 mph but it’s still not on rails . If I have to down size I would like to get something that can run in the 110-120 range and not fight me the whole time .

Stuckonstupid 05-18-2024 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898459)
The lake I live on is pretty big and gets chopped up on the weekends. I would say 2’-3’ on average and on a bad day you could see 3’-5’. As far as boat size I don’t want a small boat . I want something I can take to poker runs and still have enough boat to run if the conditions aren’t great . I was considering a 344 Cheetah since I like my 388 so much . But they have the same issue as my 388 above 90mph they get loose . I have my 388 where it runs good over 90 mph but it’s still not on rails . If I have to down size I would like to get something that can run in the 110-120 range and not fight me the whole time .

so you just narrowed your search to a 28’ or 32’ skater.

hogie roll 05-18-2024 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4898440)
Power to power, probably not.

My comment was more toward the numerous 95 - 105 mph IOs I see around.

I have two buddies in Fla, one w/a 32’ Skater and one w/a 34’ Wright, and both are knocking on 140’s door!

I think w/450’s.

Whoa are the 500s on the phantom!

hogie roll 05-18-2024 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898459)
The lake I live on is pretty big and gets chopped up on the weekends. I would say 2’-3’ on average and on a bad day you could see 3’-5’. As far as boat size I don’t want a small boat . I want something I can take to poker runs and still have enough boat to run if the conditions aren’t great . I was considering a 344 Cheetah since I like my 388 so much . But they have the same issue as my 388 above 90mph they get loose . I have my 388 where it runs good over 90 mph but it’s still not on rails . If I have to down size I would like to get something that can run in the 110-120 range and not fight me the whole time .

34 phantom

VetteLT193 05-18-2024 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898459)
The lake I live on is pretty big and gets chopped up on the weekends. I would say 2’-3’ on average and on a bad day you could see 3’-5’. As far as boat size I don’t want a small boat . I want something I can take to poker runs and still have enough boat to run if the conditions aren’t great . I was considering a 344 Cheetah since I like my 388 so much . But they have the same issue as my 388 above 90mph they get loose . I have my 388 where it runs good over 90 mph but it’s still not on rails . If I have to down size I would like to get something that can run in the 110-120 range and not fight me the whole time .

tuff is too small plus you have to drive the crap out of them even in calm water

Donzi 33zx daytona is not a bad option but it will need some big power to get where you want to be. 35 cig might be the compromise but it will be the same power wise I'd think.

Skater is a different animal all together but could work

2015Duramax 05-18-2024 06:17 PM

I have owned several cats one being a 32B with 900hp Blower motors . It is one of my all time favorite boats . I just have come to like the room in a V bottom and the insurance rate.

bencini231 05-18-2024 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898467)
I have owned several cats one being a 32B with 900hp Blower motors . It is one of my all time favorite boats . I just have come to like the room in a V bottom and the insurance rate.

If you don't mind me asking, the budget you have in mind may help on some ideas.

ICDEDPPL 05-18-2024 11:44 PM

Who the hell made up that dumbass rule?? Some Karen?
I would build a armored up bulldozer and take a trip to city hall.

apex svt 05-19-2024 07:50 AM

Will agree the 344 does get loose above 90mph, from actual experience behind the wheel.

Awesome boats though, fast for mild power, good room in the bilge, mostly composite boat so you don’t have the “slingshot issue”.

2015Duramax 05-19-2024 08:00 AM

The 34 phantom seems to keep coming up and after looking at pictures and threads has me curious. I don’t have any knowledge of the 34 phantom. What is their construction composite ? Are there certain years that are better than others , what type of bottom straight or stepped? What is the availability of them ? Don’t remember seeing any posted for sale .

hogie roll 05-19-2024 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898495)
The 34 phantom seems to keep coming up and after looking at pictures and threads has me curious. I don’t have any knowledge of the 34 phantom. What is their construction composite ? Are there certain years that are better than others , what type of bottom straight or stepped? What is the availability of them ? Don’t remember seeing any posted for sale .

Traditional fiberglass construction. Bottom is a pad with a little non vented step.

There was a new one available last year with mild power. Not sure if he still has it.

edit: see Philips post

kreed 05-19-2024 10:44 AM

Activator builds a nice 27-32ft single engine v-bottom that is very stable at higher speeds. They are in Long Island NY...I believe he now owns the Kryptonite hulls also, which is another quality hull that would suit your needs.

Smarty 05-19-2024 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by 2015Duramax (Post 4898495)
The 34 phantom seems to keep coming up and after looking at pictures and threads has me curious. I don’t have any knowledge of the 34 phantom. What is their construction composite ? Are there certain years that are better than others , what type of bottom straight or stepped? What is the availability of them ? Don’t remember seeing any posted for sale .

I would suggest that you call Phantom boats at 941-232-4026 speak with Will Smith - owner of Phantom Boats. He is a straight shooter and a good man with a wealth of knowledge and experience who can best answer your questions.

I hope this information helps you, there are lots of good suggestions in this thread. My view is that any day on the water is a good day

Hoodoo 2.0 05-19-2024 11:55 AM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0607a96d4.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...44f6720a2.jpeg

Steps are vented through a small hole in the hull. They are very well built but are essentially race boats. Frequently used in P4 class. I enjoy the hell out of mine but if your looking for a traditional walk in cabin and spacious cockpit you won’t find it here.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...33365fbb7.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3acdbfa08.jpeg

c0ncEpT 05-28-2024 04:00 PM

Staggered 35 Fountain with 525's, Whipples, and SCX.

110mph and very reliable.

Team Archer 05-28-2024 05:05 PM

I'll build one of my 32 speedsters with 565s runs over 110 and on rails
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8f67962d7c.jpg
This is the new deck with wrap windshield

Brad Christy 05-28-2024 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4898484)
Who the hell made up that dumbass rule?? Some Karen?
I would build a armored up bulldozer and take a trip to city hall.

Dan,

Too funny. My son named his cat Granby.

Thanks. Brad.

sutphen 30 05-28-2024 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4899119)
I'll build one of my 32 speedsters with 565s runs over 110 and on rails
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8f67962d7c.jpg
This is the new deck with wrap windshield

what are we looking at for price?sharp looking boat

Sydwayz 05-28-2024 06:05 PM

Phantom on Facedork: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...type=top_picks

Team Archer 05-29-2024 11:55 AM

Depends on engine package and paint job. the one we did for Jimmy retails for 499,000.00 with alum trailer

Powerquest230 06-09-2024 08:10 AM

For decent freeboard and cockpit room maybe look at either the Velocity 32 cuddly or 33 cc.. Safe and efficient hulls that should be over 100mph with 525 I/O’s or twin Outboards..

105Fountain 06-09-2024 10:32 AM

All very nice hulls but price will eliminate a lot of buyers ? I like staggered set up if twins! Oh yea 35' fountain if they still build them:flag:


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