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Velocity 260
I'm looking for mint velocity 260 or 280 from 1995 to 2002 or so. If anyone knows or has found one please let me know. I am in Washington state and there isn't much up this way for sale like that.
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I found VERY nice 2001 power quest 280 with a 500 efi. i do not know much about that boat. My current baja 272 is a great boat and in show quality shape but everything i read says this isnt the boat to do 80 in?? hard to make go fast so i am trying to be smart about this and get a boat like my baja 272 that is better for going faster than my current 72 mph baja 272.
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Originally Posted by hpmaniac
(Post 4904472)
I found VERY nice 2001 power quest 280 with a 500 efi. i do not know much about that boat. My current baja 272 is a great boat and in show quality shape but everything i read says this isnt the boat to do 80 in?? hard to make go fast so i am trying to be smart about this and get a boat like my baja 272 that is better for going faster than my current 72 mph baja 272.
I've seen videos of 280s running stably at 85. No idea what was under the hood. Mine runs a sold 76-77 GPS, 78 on the right day, with a ProCharged 496HO, turning a Bravo28 prop. ProCharger advertised the kit to put the 496HO at 615HP, but some have suggested it's probably not much over 500HP. Who knows. I do know I'm turning two inches of pitch more than the same boat, same engine, NA, and about 10MPH faster. If that suggestion is correct, and the 280 you're looking at is actually putting out 500HP, I'd think you'd be in that ballpark. What prop/drive is on the boat? I love the boat. It's a clean, well thought out cockpit, with about as much room as any other sport boat; more than most. About the only thing I don't like about it is the bench seats in the cuddy could have been considerably shorter, leaving a bit more head/feet room for us normal height guys. I specifically sought one without the fridge and microwave. I wanted a boat, not a hotel room. I wanted a cuddy space, not a kitchen. Thanks. Brad. |
Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4904478)
HPManiac,
I've seen videos of 280s running stably at 85. No idea what was under the hood. Mine runs a sold 76-77 GPS, 78 on the right day, with a ProCharged 496HO, turning a Bravo28 prop. ProCharger advertised the kit to put the 496HO at 615HP, but some have suggested it's probably not much over 500HP. Who knows. I do know I'm turning two inches of pitch more than the same boat, same engine, NA, and about 10MPH faster. If that suggestion is correct, and the 280 you're looking at is actually putting out 500HP, I'd think you'd be in that ballpark. What prop/drive is on the boat? I love the boat. It's a clean, well thought out cockpit, with about as much room as any other sport boat; more than most. About the only thing I don't like about it is the bench seats in the cuddy could have been considerably shorter, leaving a bit more head/feet room for us normal height guys. I specifically sought one without the fridge and microwave. I wanted a boat, not a hotel room. I wanted a cuddy space, not a kitchen. Thanks. Brad. |
Sorry Brad i was talking about another velocity i found, still waiting on more info on the PQ
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PQ has xr1 drive and K plane trim tabs
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Are the velocity 280 and pQ 280 very close in design boats? they look like they are. Problem one is in florida and the other in Michigan!! I am in Washington state. lol
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Originally Posted by hpmaniac
(Post 4904486)
Are the velocity 280 and pQ 280 very close in design boats?
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The engine in the My baja 272 would be perfect for a procharger, fresh low compression with good forged bottom end and merlin Rec port heads. Has a big fuel system already. I just Dont know how well these baja 272 boats handle in the 78-82 range?
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You need a Velocity 280. Fantastic running boat. I don't know this boat or owner, but I googled the phone number and the owner is 72 years old
and lives in Wisconsin, but runs this boat in Lake Havasu. Low hours and probably has been maintained with an open checkbook. https://seattle.craigslist.org/searc...=1~gallery~0~0 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e56e70e9e4.jpg This Howard in Havasu looks like a great buy too. https://www.maxedoutmarine.com/inven...rformance/1861 https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...007abf78fe.jpg |
Wow that 280 is a bad boy!! I might call him, more than i want to spend but who knows what he will take.
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4904492)
No, the Velocity hull is a performance boat. The Powerquest is a nice "offshore" boat. The Powerquest probably has more room and comfort.
PQs have been described as the "Gentlemen's performance boat". They run well, just not as well as some others, but without many of the sacrifices that most of those others have made for that extra performance. Just out of curiosity, without the step the PQ has, what is it about the Velocity that makes it perform better. Morbid curiosity..... Thanks. Brad. |
You won't have any problem going over 80 with the Velocity. A Velocity 280 would probably be more comparable size wise to your 272 than a 260.
I would think a Baja 272 would handle 78-82 without a problem. The 30 Outlaws run close to that range what I've seen. . |
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...75ef9a493c.jpg
platinum teague drive https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...59868bbc9f.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...593d14bfdc.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d0110c20aa.jpg pic What do you think about this 1992 checkmate 251 convincer. My friend owns it, has a 750hp 598 fresh, interior is 9 out of ten solid boat. has the teague platinum drive upper and lower. I can get it for a hell of a price, boat has 85 k in parts alone spend in 2018 and 19. 10k stereo system lol. |
Originally Posted by Revd Up
(Post 4904503)
Youi won't have any problem going over 80 with the Velocity. A Velocity 280 would probably be more comparable size wise to your 272 than a 260.
I would think a Baja 272 would handle 78-82 without a problem. The 30 Outlaws run close to that range what I've seen. I need better trim tabs but dont know what to get, would i do a bolt on larger tab or do a complete kit. The bravo is just fresh and stock. I never hammer it out of the hole just roll into it slow so drive should be ok. If the baja was not so darn nice i would just sell it. . https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6bfa89226e.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d343fdf5e7.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fb1fc0005d.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c7fb2e0a2b.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c70d974e74.jpg |
If you want to run 80+ go for Velocity 280 or 290. A Plus is that the factory is still around and making boats. A 290 VR 1 would also be nice but you sacrifice some cabin head room and cockpit depth. The 290 SC has a huge cabin, for a 29 foot boat.
Padraig |
Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4904500)
Rookie,
PQs have been described as the "Gentlemen's performance boat". They run well, just not as well as some others, but without many of the sacrifices that most of those others have made for that extra performance. Just out of curiosity, without the step the PQ has, what is it about the Velocity that makes it perform better. Morbid curiosity..... Thanks. Brad. Velocity's were built as a top performance boat. The whole hull was designed with one thing in mind... speed and performance. And they have the awards and hardware to back it up. Under 30' I believe a pad outperforms steps. My friends 27' NA straight bottom padded Fountain would outperform 27' step bottom Fountain with similar power. |
Originally Posted by hpmaniac
(Post 4904493)
The engine in the My baja 272 would be perfect for a procharger, fresh low compression with good forged bottom end and merlin Rec port heads. Has a big fuel system already. I just Dont know how well these baja 272 boats handle in the 78-82 range?
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4904531)
I believe Smitty (articfriends) had 1000HP in his 272. I don't believe he ever had handling issues.
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The Teague Platinum drive will already have XR gears in it, full length tower and upgraded shafts. It is as good as it gets for a bravo based drive. To upgrade from there, you are looking at an IMCO SCX. What you currently have is very comparable to an IMCO SC. If you were to buy another boat, I would swap drives and keep the one you currently have provided that the new boat just has a B1 or standard XR.
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Originally Posted by larslindroth
(Post 4904496)
You need a Velocity 280. Fantastic running boat. I don't know this boat or owner, but I googled the phone number and the owner is 72 years old
and lives in Wisconsin, but runs this boat in Lake Havasu. Low hours and probably has been maintained with an open checkbook. https://seattle.craigslist.org/searc...=1~gallery~0~0 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e56e70e9e4.jpg This Howard in Havasu looks like a great buy too. https://www.maxedoutmarine.com/inven...rformance/1861 https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...007abf78fe.jpg |
Congrats! That looks like a beauty.
Welcome to the Velocity family! |
Originally Posted by Revd Up
(Post 4904622)
Congrats! That looks like a beauty.
Welcome to the Velocity family! |
Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4904530)
I live in West Michigan, I'm very familiar with Powerquests. I can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. I don't dislike them.
Velocity's were built as a top performance boat. The whole hull was designed with one thing in mind... speed and performance. And they have the awards and hardware to back it up. Under 30' I believe a pad outperforms steps. My friends 27' NA straight bottom padded Fountain would outperform 27' step bottom Fountain with similar power. |
Some on here will tell you to stay away from the 575SCI, but i really like them. They are old school and will easily make 700+hp reliably. In stock form they have a flat tappet cam and iron heads, they are also prone to head gasket failures with the original gaskets. A good set of heads, a roller cam. Cometic gaskets and a tune will get you there. There are smaller blower pullies available to increase boost. Eddie Young has an injector plate mod that uses standard injectors instead if the TBI injectors and you can have the blower teflon stripped by DMPE for another pound or so of boost. Mine made 760hp after the mods.
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4904627)
Some on here will tell you to stay away from the 575SCI, but i really like them. They are old school and will easily make 700+hp reliably. In stock form they have a flat tappet cam and iron heads, they are also prone to head gasket failures with the original gaskets. A good set of heads, a roller cam. Cometic gaskets and a tune will get you there. There are smaller blower pullies available to increase boost. Eddie Young has an injector plate mod that uses standard injectors instead if the TBI injectors and you can have the blower teflon stripped by DMPE for another pound or so of boost. Mine made 760hp after the mods.
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Most issues with a blown engine is poor fuel quality. I would never run anything but 92 in the engine and i guarantee people have ran 87 in them. Engine load, fuel octane prop pitch all effect cylinder pressure and load. I would prop it to spin on the upper end of the rpm range to get some load off engine.
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I had an 02 280 Velocity. I LOVED IT!!!
That is a lot of engine engine for that boat. Just work up on the speed slowly. Get used to driving a pad boat. Try to find someone that can show you have to drive it so you don't get into trouble. Couple of things I loved about my Velocity; deep cockpit, decent cabin for size, very safe to drive at reasonable speeds. I tired to spin it out and no matter what I did, I couldn't. |
I think the newer 575 sci engines had hydro rollers from what i found. This boat came with a 500 engine and he had velocity install a new 575 about 6 years ago i guess. The xr drive was making some noise so instead of fixing it he just went ahead and bought a complete new unit top to bottom. Only a few hrs on drive. This will be all the boat i will ever need and then some.
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After speaking to the man with this 280 I just bought he is friends with Steve step and they have a long running relationship with velocity boats. When he had the engine swap steve step went over the entire boat for him to make sure everything was perfect. I'm very new to the boat world and that didn't mean anything to me but he said trust me that is a cool thing. I can't wait to get this boat and see it in person. The boat has only been in fresh water since day one.
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Congrats! I'm so very pleased that the deal worked out for you. You had done Your homework though and knew what You wanted, plus had
the buyer for Your boat already in the bag. Keep us posted on Your new adventures with this baby. Happy Boating, kind regards, Lars. |
None of the 575's had roller lifters from the factory. All were flat tappet. If that one has already been upgraded to a roller, you are a step ahead. I had one of the very last 575's made. I think there were only 4 or 5 serial numbers after mine and this was in a new 05 model boat. I would be curious as to where he found a new 575 10+ years after they quit making them.
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4904689)
None of the 575's had roller lifters from the factory. All were flat tappet. If that one has already been upgraded to a roller, you are a step ahead. I had one of the very last 575's made. I think there were only 4 or 5 serial numbers after mine and this was in a new 05 model boat. I would be curious as to where he found a new 575 10+ years after they quit making them.
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I am sure it will be a 256 Weiand. Yeah, I'm not scared of a 20yr old flat tappet cam but I sure wouldn't use one today. Nothing but bad stories lately about them going flat. I tore mine down at 100hrs to do some upgrades and the head gaskets looked like they were minutes from failing. They just used a cheap composite gasket. Looks like that has been addressed with this engine.
I am certainly not the world's foremost authority on the 575SCI, but I know them very well. If you need any specific info on building one up I am more than willing to tell you the little quirks specific to this engine that is easily overlooked. |
Every cam i have ever seen go flat was because the wrong oil was used. when the cam is new if its going to go flat it will happen in the first 100 miles most of the time. And its also the lifter not turning in the bore, i mark the top of the lifter and rotate the cam gear with my hand with the timing chain off and watch the top of the lifter, if you have a lifter not rotating just keep moving them around until they all rotate. Old trick i learned years ago. I have never had a big block cam go flat and i have built probable 40 through the years with flat tappets.
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Interesting when you look up head gasket on the 575 sci through mercury racing it is a cometic gasket, i found a guy on the baja forum that had a 575sci later model that had factory installed cometic gaskets. What is this Blower shop blower upgrade all about for the 575sci? is it a better blower than factory?
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I see whipple still offers the intercooler but wow not cheap!!
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Originally Posted by hpmaniac
(Post 4904825)
I see whipple still offers the intercooler but wow not cheap!!
B ring O N A nother T housand Thanks. Brad. |
Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4904828)
HPManiac,
B ring O N A nother T housand Thanks. Brad. |
Originally Posted by hpmaniac
(Post 4904829)
so far i have done good with selling the boats i have bought this summer lol. Have you tried a 27 pitch bravo on your set up? we were talking about trying a 28 bravo. I have a 27 fs you can try
I’m already taching ours out with the stock 28. According to the numbers, the WOT RPM of the Merc 496 is 5000, and I can get 5200 or so out of it. I would like to try a Hydromotive 27 or 28, being that they are typically pretty true to their numbers while Merc props are usually overstated on pitch. I would also like to send a 28 to Brett ( or whoever) and have it labbed, thinned and pitched/cupped up to 29. I really think that would be the ideal prop for our setup. Thanks. Brad. |
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