O.T. Support from the Brits waning???
12-06-2002, 07:24 AM
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O.T. Support from the Brits waning???
No matter what your views on President Bush's
> statement of upcoming war, this, from an English
> journalist, is very interesting. Just a word of
> background, for those of you who aren't familiar with
> the UK's Daily Mirror. This is a notoriously left-wing
> daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials
> across the Atlantic.
>
> Tony Parsons Daily Mirror September 11, 2002
> ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of
> broadcasting-the mass murder of thousands, live on
> television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the
> human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's
> mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies
> stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.
>
> An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so
> utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on
> one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there
> could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent,
> the perpetrators truly evil.
>
> But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly
> seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly,
> anti-Americanism has increased over the last year.
>
> There has always been a simmering resentment to the
> USA in this country too loud, too rich, too full of
> themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it
> has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to
> me. More than that, it turns my stomach.
>
> America is this country's greatest friend and our
> staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture,
> language and blood. A little over half a century ago,
> around half a million Americans died for our freedoms,
> as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And
> exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women
> and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of
> countries - were butchered by a small group of
> religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?
>
> What touched the heart about those who died in the
> twin towers and on the planes was that we recognized
> them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and
> somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some unborn.
>
> And these people brought it on themselves? And their
> nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?
>
> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted
> nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see
> America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance
> is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
> Americans for every ill in the Third World, and
> conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that
> the world's only superpower can do what it likes
> without having to ask permission.
>
> The truth is that America has behaved with enormous
> restraint since September 11.
>
> Remember, remember.
> statement of upcoming war, this, from an English
> journalist, is very interesting. Just a word of
> background, for those of you who aren't familiar with
> the UK's Daily Mirror. This is a notoriously left-wing
> daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials
> across the Atlantic.
>
> Tony Parsons Daily Mirror September 11, 2002
> ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of
> broadcasting-the mass murder of thousands, live on
> television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the
> human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's
> mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies
> stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.
>
> An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so
> utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on
> one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there
> could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent,
> the perpetrators truly evil.
>
> But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly
> seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly,
> anti-Americanism has increased over the last year.
>
> There has always been a simmering resentment to the
> USA in this country too loud, too rich, too full of
> themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it
> has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to
> me. More than that, it turns my stomach.
>
> America is this country's greatest friend and our
> staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture,
> language and blood. A little over half a century ago,
> around half a million Americans died for our freedoms,
> as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And
> exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women
> and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of
> countries - were butchered by a small group of
> religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?
>
> What touched the heart about those who died in the
> twin towers and on the planes was that we recognized
> them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and
> somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some unborn.
>
> And these people brought it on themselves? And their
> nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?
>
> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted
> nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see
> America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance
> is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
> Americans for every ill in the Third World, and
> conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that
> the world's only superpower can do what it likes
> without having to ask permission.
>
> The truth is that America has behaved with enormous
> restraint since September 11.
>
> Remember, remember.
Last edited by Spitfire1; 12-06-2002 at 07:31 AM.
12-06-2002, 08:33 AM
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Okay, way too vague with my post. Sorry. 
A little background: What spitfire first said about the rag is entirely true. It's the newspaper that really sucks. Second, this rag usually has nothing good to say. This may be an exception, I just don't know.
You know, the more I read this article the less sense it makes. Maybe I don't know the British language too well, but what's this supposed to mean?
"> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan."
Maybe it's just me, maybe due to an extended happy hour last night
, but I just don't get this guy's message. It's quite conflicting at times. 
A little background: What spitfire first said about the rag is entirely true. It's the newspaper that really sucks. Second, this rag usually has nothing good to say. This may be an exception, I just don't know.
You know, the more I read this article the less sense it makes. Maybe I don't know the British language too well, but what's this supposed to mean?
"> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan."
Maybe it's just me, maybe due to an extended happy hour last night
, but I just don't get this guy's message. It's quite conflicting at times.
12-06-2002, 09:44 AM
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I have trouble with the whole paragraph:
> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted
> nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see
> America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance
> is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
> Americans for every ill in the Third World, and
> conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that
> the world's only superpower can do what it likes
> without having to ask permission.
I think he is trying to say that there is anti-American sentiment among more than just the nut job religious fanatics. The anti_american sentiment goes from Liberals to Conservatives, both for obsurd reasons.
I also think the article was an attempt to say that he loves America and wants to point out that 9/11 rated with the worst atrocities of all time, yet America has shown tremendous restraint in our response, which he appearantly likes.
No wonder the press gets such a bad name. They write things even intelligent people can't figure out. Or maybe we are not intelligent
Tom
> These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted
> nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see
> America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance
> is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
> Americans for every ill in the Third World, and
> conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that
> the world's only superpower can do what it likes
> without having to ask permission.
I think he is trying to say that there is anti-American sentiment among more than just the nut job religious fanatics. The anti_american sentiment goes from Liberals to Conservatives, both for obsurd reasons.
I also think the article was an attempt to say that he loves America and wants to point out that 9/11 rated with the worst atrocities of all time, yet America has shown tremendous restraint in our response, which he appearantly likes.
No wonder the press gets such a bad name. They write things even intelligent people can't figure out. Or maybe we are not intelligent
Tom
