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36Tango 12-02-2024 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by LakeBoat4 (Post 4915606)
You the insurance Man, You know installation code. WTF? Inlighten this Dumb Ass

Wow, that was pretty aggressive! I was just pointing out some challenges that may come from it. Whether the Coast Guard will ever inspect or not, following thier rules at least gives a better chance of being safe on your boat. Here are just a few of the horrible reasons to run it in your bilge.

Not CG Certified
You would be a "test pilot" with the exhaust as Honda says no extensions
Even if you exhausted it, what is the plan with the gas fumes that comes out of the fuel filler vent
When it comes to fueling, how do you do it while keeping both the gas and the vapors out of the bilge
One of the reasons it is not CG certified is that it is not spark protected. Sparks can do bad things in the bilge.
If there is a problem of any kind, your insurance company will not pay out unless you defraud them- many policies require following GC rules
My friends and family are more important than taking the cheap way out
Mounting them on the bow pulpit or the swim platform is definitely a safer means

"Been doing it for years" works great.....until it doesn't! The risk/reward is not worth it, at least in my opinion.

Carry on...........

zz28zz 12-02-2024 02:18 PM

Soft Start
 
Here's an example of what I was referring to. There are other manufs.
https://www.microair.net/collections...e-soft-starter

They make a bigger version for home A/C units. They mainly get used when powering home (with non-inverter AC compressor) off a larger portable genset.

ICDEDPPL 12-02-2024 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by 36Tango (Post 4915630)
Wow, that was pretty aggressive! I was just pointing out some challenges that may come from it. Whether the Coast Guard will ever inspect or not, following thier rules at least gives a better chance of being safe on your boat. Here are just a few of the horrible reasons to run it in your bilge.

Not CG Certified
You would be a "test pilot" with the exhaust as Honda says no extensions
Even if you exhausted it, what is the plan with the gas fumes that comes out of the fuel filler vent
When it comes to fueling, how do you do it while keeping both the gas and the vapors out of the bilge
One of the reasons it is not CG certified is that it is not spark protected. Sparks can do bad things in the bilge.
If there is a problem of any kind, your insurance company will not pay out unless you defraud them- many policies require following GC rules
My friends and family are more important than taking the cheap way out
Mounting them on the bow pulpit or the swim platform is definitely a safer means

"Been doing it for years" works great.....until it doesn't! The risk/reward is not worth it, at least in my opinion.

Carry on...........


Agree to disagree with all that .
I`m still doing it, Hope that helps

36Tango 12-02-2024 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4915652)
Agree to disagree with all that .
I`m still doing it, Hope that helps

Nothing really to disagree with, you are just willing to take the risk for you and those onboard.

Quinlan 12-03-2024 05:49 AM

Met a guy w a 29 Outlaw several yrs ago from Tx that mounted a small Honda in the bilge of his boat. Plumbed out the side. Very quiet. And Nice an Cool in cabin.
I was impressed.

ICDEDPPL 12-03-2024 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by 36tango (Post 4915630)
wow, that was pretty aggressive! I was just pointing out some challenges that may come from it. Whether the coast guard will ever inspect or not, following thier rules at least gives a better chance of being safe on your boat. Here are just a few of the horrible reasons to run it in your bilge.

Not cg certified
you would be a "test pilot" with the exhaust as honda says no extensions , i don`t have an issue with aftermarket parts use em all the time.
even if you exhausted it, what is the plan with the gas fumes that comes out of the fuel filler vent it`s lockable
when it comes to fueling, how do you do it while keeping both the gas and the vapors out of the bilge , what vapors? You`ve never cracked a fuel line, had a fuel leak, replaced fuel filter, drained water seperator, replaced jets and drained carbs?? I have tons of time and i`m still here so..
one of the reasons it is not cg certified is that it is not spark protected. Sparks can do bad things in the bilge. better check your starter, ac pump, alternator etc , most of those are automotive type and not cg protected.
if there is a problem of any kind, your insurance company will not pay out unless you defraud them- many policies require following gc rules wifes tales just like the old , 'your insurance wont cover you if you`re not using the correct truck for the load'
my friends and family are more important than taking the cheap way out calm down mr. Safety, theres a million other things that will kill you, the ride to the marine in a car you have a 1000% more of a chance of dying than a generator used 4 times a year. If i thought like you i`d never leave the house or try anything out of the box.i would just sit at home wrapped in bubble wrap.
mounting them on the bow pulpit or the swim platform is definitely a safer means

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usa



ICDEDPPL 12-03-2024 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4915670)
Met a guy w a 29 Outlaw several yrs ago from Tx that mounted a small Honda in the bilge of his boat. Plumbed out the side. Very quiet. And Nice an Cool in cabin.
I was impressed.

He`s probably not alive anymore. RIP :angry-smiley-038:

I bet that bilge was tight ... I have room for hours, in front of engines there`s a nice spot .
Not sure how I survived installing that secondary fuel pump , I spilled a lot of gas in the bilge ..


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...979e7f1c25.jpg

Diamond Dave 12-03-2024 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4915690)
He`s probably not alive anymore. RIP :angry-smiley-038:

I bet that bilge was tight ... I have room for hours, in front of engines there`s a nice spot .
Not sure how I survived installing that secondary fuel pump , I spilled a lot of gas in the bilge ..


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...979e7f1c25.jpg

I don't recall if it was in a 36 or 40 etc. but I've seen a small portable Honda mounted in the back on one side in the area where the bilge blowers and p/s junction lines etc. all are.

302Sport 12-03-2024 12:04 PM

My 50 had a portable generator mounted in the right sponson in front of the bathroom.

Diamond Dave 12-03-2024 01:02 PM

Was there a separate tank or fill for it somewhere?


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