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ScarabViper 08-09-2025 07:25 AM

Trying to find Miami vice Scarab
 
Guys, I know this is a big ask but does anyone have any information on the Miami vice scarab that was in Gallions point Marina, London a few years ago? Was told by Axle that worked there that it was for sale due to unpaid storage fees.

Marina then closed down and I’m trying to see if anyone knows where it ended up.

Also if anyone knows of any other 38 or 43 Scarabs for sale around Europe I’d appreciate the heads up

Cheers

phughes69 08-11-2025 09:33 AM

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I think I remember that boat for sale. It was sitting out in the yard uncovered. Most of the boats from that time period are rot buckets by now unless they have been gone thru. The cost to redo one outweighs buying on that is already done. You would be thousands of dollars ahead buying this one Attachment 577910, than redoing one.

ScarabViper 08-11-2025 03:13 PM

Oh maybe it could have been scrapped then.

Can’t download your link for some reason not sure why

Thanks for the reply and if you can send the link another way I’ll be sure to take a look

jeff32 08-11-2025 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by ScarabViper (Post 4932504)
Oh maybe it could have been scrapped then.

Can’t download your link for some reason not sure why

Thanks for the reply and if you can send the link another way I’ll be sure to take a look

cant get the link to work either on my side...

bajaman 08-11-2025 04:32 PM

One of the "original" Scarabs was for sale for something like $20M...is this the one you are talking about? There was some discussion about it here, basically people saying you were paying for the provenance/mystique...because yeah, you can find boats of that year and model for one helluva lot less.

Griff 08-11-2025 10:20 PM

Here is #1
Wellcraft Scarab 38KV | YachtCreators

Tartilla 08-12-2025 12:28 AM

Wasn't there a YT vid of a collector that had a shop full of oldschool offshore boats...one being a Miami Vice boat? Can't seem to find it again.

Helmwurst 08-12-2025 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4932524)

How much? Anyone know ?

anger mgmt 08-12-2025 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4932544)
How much? Anyone know ?

I seem to recall the asking price being upwards of a million a couple years ago.

anger mgmt 08-12-2025 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4932526)
Wasn't there a YT vid of a collector that had a shop full of oldschool offshore boats...one being a Miami Vice boat? Can't seem to find it again.


This the one?

dirtlawyer 08-12-2025 02:25 PM

a "Miami Vice" tribute Scarab came up on Facebook Marketplace a few weeks ago: Marketplace - 1988 Wellcraft Scarab 38 kv | Facebook

Tartilla 08-12-2025 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by anger mgmt (Post 4932548)

That's the one!! Thank you for that. Great addition to the thread.

We need more offshore boat TV series.

Best we get now...is Haulover vids.

jeff32 08-12-2025 07:46 PM

i have seen this ad a while back. I tought the boat looked good from far, but far from good when having the chance to look into the engine room...
i mean it is a salt water boat, you can expect that, but for that kind of money, IMO, it should look much better and cleaner power train wise...

ScarabViper 08-14-2025 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by bajaman (Post 4932513)
One of the "original" Scarabs was for sale for something like $20M...is this the one you are talking about? There was some discussion about it here, basically people saying you were paying for the provenance/mystique...because yeah, you can find boats of that year and model for one helluva lot less.

No I think the one I’m looking for was a clone. I wish I had $20m for one!

Markus 08-14-2025 07:09 AM

It is highly unlikely that it actually changed hands for $20 million.

phughes69 08-14-2025 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ScarabViper (Post 4932504)
Oh maybe it could have been scrapped then.

Can’t download your link for some reason not sure why

Thanks for the reply and if you can send the link another way I’ll be sure to take a look

-------- https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/boa/d/hollywood-1988-wellcraft-38kv-scarab/7837759218.html ---------

larslindroth 08-14-2025 02:15 PM

This boat is an interesting runner for somebody who doesn't care if it came as a 38 KV with the 'Miami Vice Edition' paint job originally.

However, the hull has an okay wrap, but with non-painted matching gunnels and deck it looks non-Miami Vice. That has to be painted

and then one might as well paint the whole thing. Not a small sum of money. The cabin looks cheaply put together and is not even finished

completely. This boat needs to come down quite a bit in price to sell. There are just too many good Apache brand, and Cigarette 38 boats

of newer and much better quality on the market right now for this kind of money. If I absolutely had to have a Scarab with this look or

similar, I'd hunt down a true Team Scarab by Larry Smith 38 or 43 and I'd then know that I got a super high quality build and a boat that

will keep its value if I in the future plowed some coins into it.

A couple of videos of it.

P.S. Speculator, ScarabViper, did You say you're in Europe? If so, there's a ton of very clean, high-performance, offshore boats for sale

in Scandinavia right now. The prices are dramatically better than in the U.S.A. What's your comfortable budget? D.S.



Below photo: Larry Smith's personal 1987 Team Scarab 38. This is the kind of Scarab, if that what it had to be, I'd find.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4ed6914947.jpg

ScarabViper 08-15-2025 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by phughes69 (Post 4932706)

Thanks for the link but can’t open it. Can you email it to me at [email protected]
Thanks

ScarabViper 08-15-2025 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by anger mgmt (Post 4932548)

Great vid thanks 👌🏻

ScarabViper 08-15-2025 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4932716)
This boat is an interesting runner for somebody who doesn't care if it came as a 38 KV with the 'Miami Vice Edition' paint job originally.

However, the hull has an okay wrap, but with non-painted matching gunnels and deck it looks non-Miami Vice. That has to be painted

and then one might as well paint the whole thing. Not a small sum of money. The cabin looks cheaply put together and is not even finished

completely. This boat needs to come down quite a bit in price to sell. There are just too many good Apache brand, and Cigarette 38 boats

of newer and much better quality on the market right now for this kind of money. If I absolutely had to have a Scarab with this look or

similar, I'd hunt down a true Team Scarab by Larry Smith 38 or 43 and I'd then know that I got a super high quality build and a boat that

will keep its value if I in the future plowed some coins into it.

A couple of videos of it.

P.S. Speculator, ScarabViper, did You say you're in Europe? If so, there's a ton of very clean, high-performance, offshore boats for sale

in Scandinavia right now. The prices are dramatically better than in the U.S.A. What's your comfortable budget? D.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hECSU8J-00

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rcufb-QxYzY

Below photo: Larry Smith's personal 1987 Team Scarab 38. This is the kind of Scarab, if that what it had to be, I'd find.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4ed6914947.jpg

Yes indeed unfortunately I’m in London but not for much longer if this country keeps going the way it is. You can probably tell by my username what car I drive and what boats I’m in to. So I think I’m meant to live in the US!

Noted your comments on the boat but where is it for sale and what’s the price. Thanks


larslindroth 08-15-2025 05:31 PM

Bring one of the Norwegian boats for sale to the U.S. and it's a start. Larry Smith's boat sold a couple of years ago and the new owner was going to put higher

performance engines in it. The thing is that family has several Team Scarab boats, 38s and 43s. I'll find out to see what they might let go of. Dan at Team

Archer Marine in Huntington Beach, California usually knows what's out there in Team Scarab way, so give him a call. There's a very nice Scarab Viper for

sale currently, but I didn't grasp if you have one already. There's also an ex. Team Scarab 31 race boat for sale, now poker run boat, that's mint in Texas.

Vipers are usually restored by now or definitely needs restoration due to Wellcraft's questionable build quality in the early '90s.

Link to the 1988 Scarab 38 KV: https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1988...38-kv-9866884/

Markus 08-16-2025 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4932788)
There's a very nice Scarab Viper for

sale currently, but I didn't grasp if you have one already.

I think he drives a Viper, which is a kind of Dodge, which is a car for poor people that you have probably never heard of.

:party-smiley-004:

anger mgmt 08-18-2025 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by Markus (Post 4932800)
I think he drives a Viper, which is a kind of Dodge, which is a car for poor people that you have probably never heard of.

:party-smiley-004:

great input :point:

Markus 08-18-2025 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by anger mgmt (Post 4932896)
great input :point:

It seems like you didn't read Lars' post and the post by ScarabViper to which Lars refers.

Re-read them, and it should be clear.

ScarabViper 08-18-2025 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4932788)
Bring one of the Norwegian boats for sale to the U.S. and it's a start. Larry Smith's boat sold a couple of years ago and the new owner was going to put higher

performance engines in it. The thing is that family has several Team Scarab boats, 38s and 43s. I'll find out to see what they might let go of. Dan at Team

Archer Marine in Huntington Beach, California usually knows what's out there in Team Scarab way, so give him a call. There's a very nice Scarab Viper for

sale currently, but I didn't grasp if you have one already. There's also an ex. Team Scarab 31 race boat for sale, now poker run boat, that's mint in Texas.

Vipers are usually restored by now or definitely needs restoration due to Wellcraft's questionable build quality in the early '90s.

Link to the 1988 Scarab 38 KV: https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1988...38-kv-9866884/

I’m going to have a look through the Norwegian ads and see what I can find.

I’d love that boat that’s for sale in Hollywood but I’m in London still for at least another year or so unfortunately

Thanks again for your help

FAST STACKS 08-19-2025 03:35 PM

First post here, not sure i am putting this in the right place but i have a 38 Larry Smith that i have been thinking about getting rid of..

larslindroth 08-19-2025 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by FAST STACKS (Post 4933015)
First post here, not sure i am putting this in the right place but i have a 38 Larry Smith that i have been thinking about getting rid of..

Definitely the right place and welcome! The ScarabViper signature has a very nice Wellcraft Scarab Viper in Germany and with it's Larry Smith Team Scarab 31 look,

it's natural to look to buy a Wellcraft 38 KV or early 377 KE flatdeck in great condition and I guess a KV with a 'Vice Edition' paint job is the ultimate here. Having looked

at several Wellcraft Scarab Viper examples before I pulled the trigger on my Larry Smith 31 Team Scarab, I learned the hard way the questionable build quality of the

Wellcraft Viper boats. Mind you that the Wellcraft 38 KV boats were built ahead of those and even more iffy. So do another 9 posts and describe what you Larry Smith 38's

history is, year, motor drives are, and condition in different aspects of it naturally. The fellow in Germany has got a good budget and folks here in the U.S. and Canada

are always hot for a Larry Smith 38 in good/great condition.

FAST STACKS 08-19-2025 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4933021)
Definitely the right place and welcome! The ScarabViper signature has a very nice Wellcraft Scarab Viper in Germany and with it's Larry Smith Team Scarab 31 look,

it's natural to look to buy a Wellcraft 38 KV or early 377 KE flatdeck in great condition and I guess a KV with a 'Vice Edition' paint job is the ultimate here. Having looked

at several Wellcraft Scarab Viper examples before I pulled the trigger on my Larry Smith 31 Team Scarab, I learned the hard way the questionable build quality of the

Wellcraft Viper boats. Mind you that the Wellcraft 38 KV boats were built ahead of those and even more iffy. So do another 9 posts and describe what you Larry Smith 38's

history is, year, motor drives are, and condition in different aspects of it naturally. The fellow in Germany has got a good budget and folks here in the U.S. and Canada

are always hot for a Larry Smith 38 in good/great condition.


It is a 2002 supposedly the last 38 built out of Westerly not that familiar with the different companies that laid them up. Motors are 588’s dart big chief heads, kinsler 8 stack with Holley efi, #5 drives on boxes, stelling headers. All new interior, gauges, steering wheel. I will post some pics when I get back to work in the morning. Also I am the second owner of it. Thanks

larslindroth 08-20-2025 11:54 AM

Interesting boat with nice driveline. Create its own thread in the Scarab section here, it deserves it.

Include the three first letter in the HIN(hull identification number), so we figure out who built it for sure.

Westerly was a legendary outfit that built Scarab boats for Larry Smith, so if that's what the HIN

shows, it's a big plus.

FAST STACKS 08-20-2025 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4933093)
Interesting boat with nice driveline. Create its own thread in the Scarab section here, it deserves it.

Include the three first letter in the HIN(hull identification number), so we figure out who built it for sure.

Westerly was a legendary outfit that built Scarab boats for Larry Smith, so if that's what the HIN

shows, it's a big plus.

Good afternoon Lars, I will apologize first the boat is a 2001 not a 2002, the first three of the HIN are WM2, I will make seven more post here and will hopefully figure out how to post the pics i have of it off my phone.

FAST STACKS 08-20-2025 01:32 PM

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larslindroth 08-20-2025 10:28 PM

Now that's a cliffhanger. FAST STACKS, we're awaiting Your new thread on the Scarab section with photos and all. :food-smiley-007:

ScarabViper 08-23-2025 09:38 AM

Guys I’ve found it👌🏻

Thanks for all your help

larslindroth 08-25-2025 05:04 PM

You're welcome. Did You find one in Norway? Eager to see what You got, but it's an impressive one.

powerboatr 08-27-2025 12:29 PM

There is one on YouTube
it pops up randomly
Its a dead ringer for Miami vice
https://youtu.be/-hECSU8J-00?feature=shared


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