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Old 11-27-2025 | 09:55 AM
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Joe, that is the traditional Democrat view.

However, putting criminals in prison protects the people who would otherwise become future victims. That’s why we need them.
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Joe, that is the traditional Democrat view.

However, putting criminals in prison protects the people who would otherwise become future victims. That’s why we need them.
You are correct, I did a quick search and
apparently he was convicted of two first- degree felonies and so there will never be a non-custodial sentence when convicted with a first degree felony. I do not practice law in Ohio so I do not know all the nuances of the sentencing in the criminal court in Ohio.

(I am/was a criminal defense attorney)

This is what I found he was guilty of in a jury trial in the Logan County Common Pleas Court.

  • Engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity – First-degree felony
  • Theft from a person in a protected class (elder abuse) – First-degree felony
  • Aggravated theft – Third-degree felony
  • Grand theft – Third-degree felony
  • Grand theft – Fourth-degree felony (three counts)
  • Defrauding creditors – Fourth-degree felony

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Old 11-27-2025 | 10:14 AM
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It must be 20+ years since I first heard of Todd Lamb doing a fraudulent boat deal.

It was one of the Long Islanders over at S&F who bought a 24 Skater
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Old 11-27-2025 | 10:23 PM
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In prison, he will get the opportunity to become someone's wife.
Im not a prison expert here by any means but on his size I’m guessing he will end up in Mansfield. It’s a rougher one from what I understand and a fun trivia fact is it’s a stones throw from the old reformatory which was the one used for filming Shawshank. I could be wrong. With the holidays it might be late December or early January after he gets through intake assessments and to where he will be.
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Old 11-27-2025 | 10:29 PM
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Sure seems that focusing on getting people made whole rather then locking someone up for 20 years and having us pay for it would be a better option. Supervised work release only or something? This didn't fix anything for those who were taken advantage of.

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I agree with your post to a point. If I was out hundreds of thousands of dollars I would want my money back and then let him serve time but all too often a person gets convicted and because of their life choices is unable to do what they could do to raise the actual capital to pay the restitution in full and enter into a bs payment agreement where the victim gets $20 a month until the thief dies. To me I don’t know what’s worse. Not getting a dime and knowing the person is rotting or getting a reminder 20 bucks at a time that I got fk’d.

I have to wonder if some of the victims will randomly put a penny into his commissary with their name on it just to screw with him.
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I am far from a Democrat. But again, the objective "in theft related crimes" should be to have the victims made whole, supervise the convicted, and have them pay for their own supervision cost throughout the process. If they are not able to produce then they can go sit out their sentence and we pay the bill, but nobody makes a recovery in that circumstance. We don't have the opportunity to make victims of violent crimes whole because the damage in most cases is permanent and loss of life is often involved. Those people need to be removed from our society for obvious reasons.

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Old 11-27-2025 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JPEROG
I am far from a Democrat. But again, the objective "in theft related crimes" should be to have the victims made whole, supervise the convicted, and have them pay for their own supervision cost throughout the process. If they are not able to produce then they can go sit out their sentence and we pay the bill, but nobody makes a recovery in that circumstance. We don't have the opportunity to make victims of violent crimes whole because the damage in most cases is permanent and loss of life is often involved. Those people need to be removed from our society for obvious reasons.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. It’s a “our government at work” issue in my eyes.

And I hate how everywhere you go everyone has to bring in right vs left politics. I hate the other side as much as everyone else here.
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Originally Posted by JPEROG
I am far from a Democrat. But again, the objective "in theft related crimes" should be to have the victims made whole, supervise the convicted, and have them pay for their own supervision cost throughout the process. If they are not able to produce then they can go sit out their sentence and we pay the bill, but nobody makes a recovery in that circumstance. We don't have the opportunity to make victims of violent crimes whole because the damage in most cases is permanent and loss of life is often involved. Those people need to be removed from our society for obvious reasons.

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Joe, I can kind of sympathize with the progressive view:

https://theonion.com/not-sure-how-th...stice-process/

A psychopath like Todd Lamb should be locked up even if loss of property and not loss of life is involved.

Switching from politics to philosophy, I believe it was Locke who elegantly explained that since your property is the result of your work, it is an extension of your body.
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Originally Posted by JPEROG
Sure seems that focusing on getting people made whole rather then locking someone up for 20 years and having us pay for it would be a better option. Supervised work release only or something? This didn't fix anything for those who were taken advantage of.

Joe
Make him work 80 hour weeks as a “grunt” ( or whatever he’s good at ) and pay everyone back while eating a bag of tuna or PB & J’s all day every day …

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when do you think he will be eligible for parole?


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You are correct, I did a quick search and
apparently he was convicted of two first- degree felonies and so there will never be a non-custodial sentence when convicted with a first degree felony. I do not practice law in Ohio so I do not know all the nuances of the sentencing in the criminal court in Ohio.

(I am/was a criminal defense attorney)

This is what I found he was guilty of in a jury trial in the Logan County Common Pleas Court.
  • Engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity – First-degree felony
  • Theft from a person in a protected class (elder abuse) – First-degree felony
  • Aggravated theft – Third-degree felony
  • Grand theft – Third-degree felony
  • Grand theft – Fourth-degree felony (three counts)
  • Defrauding creditors – Fourth-degree felony
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