The Dinosaur Of Miami
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From: Lake Ozark, MO USA
^^^ Tango, agree 100%. I was a South Florida boat show nut for years. We would always do either Ft Lauderdale or Miami, switched off each year, was a great Winter get away. Then all the local shows. Cool to look at the monster yachts and all the bling in the performance boat world. My deal was to walk the vendors to look and touch all the new stuff to add to, modify or build your own ideas. Brought many of those ideas home and helped friends and myself fix and remodel their rides. The pricing has totally put a lot of people with families out of the boating world. But if you got the dough why not flaunt it and enjoy the ride. My guy group that meets up every Tuesday has this discussion yesterday. Property taxes, PP taxes, sales taxes, insurance rates, labor costs have all gone through the roof. At what point do you just say enough already
#22
Hey you guys keep it down on LOTO lol, some of us like it just fine now, last thing we need is a bunch off new owners rolling in here on oversized tubs and don't have clue while wearing $300 designer sweat suits in June. The ICW is made for that!!!
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From: Merritt Island, FL
You know what I want to know is why is all the costs going up. I know of NO ONE that has seen the type of income increase we have had since say 2010.
I go back that far when I think about it. That is with friends at all levels, where are the increases coming from if no one supposedly is making more money?
Wages, nope not at the same level.
Profits within the company that go to the owners/ shareholders? You hear it all the time no one is getting rich building boats.
Profits to supplier companies making the items?
I go back that far when I think about it. That is with friends at all levels, where are the increases coming from if no one supposedly is making more money?
Wages, nope not at the same level.
Profits within the company that go to the owners/ shareholders? You hear it all the time no one is getting rich building boats.
Profits to supplier companies making the items?
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From: St. Pete Beach, FL
I completely agree with Indy. I've been on here per my badge 20 + years now, A LOT has come, gone and changed. I remember this was the first site I clicked on every morning, looking at all the different Owners Forum posts, learning things, shooting and talking smack was fun. Now we rely on what...maybe one or two threads with something posted in the owners section, hoping Phil has something in Skater to see pix of rebuilding... hell, thank God for Tank always posting pix lol.
I am not a rich man by any means but there was a time I could afford to have the truck, boat and cool stuff that went with it. But like others have said the $500K "entry" level boat has taken me completely out of the market. I get the outboard craze but man, they are all the same really, not a lot of "man that is sweet" factor stuff anymore. Sure everything is cool but all CC's seem the same and cats seem the same just like every 38 top gun is the same but it was the comradery just like the Baja days, yes, Baja days where 90% of us probably cut our teeth and helped make the site(s) what they are. Remember Teambajamarine.com....those were some fun times lol!
Anyway, I lurk, don't post much because I don't have a dog in the hunt but retirement is my focus now. Then I can get a HCB or Yellow Fin and retire in Costa Rica in 10-12 years.... Wish we could get some more of that kind of publicity on the site since the CC craze is still what it is.
I am not a rich man by any means but there was a time I could afford to have the truck, boat and cool stuff that went with it. But like others have said the $500K "entry" level boat has taken me completely out of the market. I get the outboard craze but man, they are all the same really, not a lot of "man that is sweet" factor stuff anymore. Sure everything is cool but all CC's seem the same and cats seem the same just like every 38 top gun is the same but it was the comradery just like the Baja days, yes, Baja days where 90% of us probably cut our teeth and helped make the site(s) what they are. Remember Teambajamarine.com....those were some fun times lol!
Anyway, I lurk, don't post much because I don't have a dog in the hunt but retirement is my focus now. Then I can get a HCB or Yellow Fin and retire in Costa Rica in 10-12 years.... Wish we could get some more of that kind of publicity on the site since the CC craze is still what it is.
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From: Chicago
In my opinion, this type of show is dead, they just do not know it yet. As a consumer, I have been twice in the past 7 years. When it comes down to what I am interested in looking at (performance boats and accessories) both times I left wanting more. Between my first show and my last show (last year) there was enough of a drop of what I am interested in looking at that I will not be back. I may be spoiled, because at Lake of the Ozarks there are several dealers that. combined, seem to show more performance boats that the entire Miami show, and this does not include the boats on the water and at the docks. If truly a buyer a trip to LOTO could be less expensive and more beneficial than Miami.
From a dealer perspective, I cannot even imagine the cost, when all of the expenses are factored in (let alone the human resources). It is my bet that most "boat show sales" are sales that had already been lined up, but were signed up at the show. It seems like a strong social media presence, a good poker run schedule, and top notch showroom with good inventory could have a better ROI than the big shows. By attracting consumers to the dealership you have better control and the consumer has a far better experience.
On the upside, Miami has the weather when those of us up north are tired of the cold!
I know little of the boat industry, so this opinion is probably worth what you paid to read it!
From a dealer perspective, I cannot even imagine the cost, when all of the expenses are factored in (let alone the human resources). It is my bet that most "boat show sales" are sales that had already been lined up, but were signed up at the show. It seems like a strong social media presence, a good poker run schedule, and top notch showroom with good inventory could have a better ROI than the big shows. By attracting consumers to the dealership you have better control and the consumer has a far better experience.
On the upside, Miami has the weather when those of us up north are tired of the cold!
I know little of the boat industry, so this opinion is probably worth what you paid to read it!
I have always waited to buy at the boat show, manyfacturers always do "boat show specials" and they are worth the wait.
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From: Lake St. Louis, MO / LOTO
I think the point was about 20 years ago you could get a brand new 33' Outlaw for ~$100k.... nothing close to that price point now!...except a pontoon....
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From: Lake Wallenpaupack, PA
There hasn't been a new, 60K Baja in many many years. If you can afford a million dollar boat that's awesome. Unfortunately some of us can only dream of a new Performance boat.
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From: Boerne, TX.
So let's say we aren't talking $500K new entry level. Let's say we are talking pre-enjoyed....5-8, 10 year old boats. All the production build boats are gone so you are left with OL, CIG, Cat's, CC's etc. so you're still dropping 2-300K on a used boat with no warranty and a truck to pull it, man, I love old school but not many 20K trucks left out there with that kind of life in them.
So this brings you to quality of life. Do you want to wrench and fork out thousands on repairs and down time or do you want new(er) with warranties? Now enters the $500K plus the $100K truck. I think that is what the pricing us out of the market is.
Hell, I'd still rock a 33 OL, no pride shame here lol. Wish I still had my 2000 7.3 to pull one with but 26 years later that just isn't in many peoples cards. It's a different buyer now. The guys with the cash will always have the cash, AWESOME FOR THEM!!! No jealousy here, I get it!. But the rest of us have become dinosaurs like the thread says.
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Same thing happened to cars. People used to buy a Mustang GT with a 5 speed and maybe a radio in it to roll up to their local car spot. Car guys aren't buying that now...its 1 up, 1 up, 1 up to keep up with the Joneses and be Instagram cool....now you gotta have a half million $ supercar to think you have something. As consumers our expectations have changed. The homes we live in, the cars we drive, the idea of success in America has shifted.


