What would U do?
 

Sorry this is kinda long and personal but you guys kinda know me so here goes.What would U do?
Okay..

1.My Ex has a restraining order against me.If you live in Florida you would know how easy these are to get.Not cheap but easy.

2.I have NEVER and I reiterate NEVER laid a hand on this girl.period..all there has to be is cause to beleive it would be possible.

3.We have been long broken up and she decided to bail on a loan we had together...her truck loan had my former car as collateral.She decided she didn't need to pay anymore on this and it got three months behind.Unbeknownst to me until the date she was to pay it off she filed a restraining order against me and with several careful lies and cautious wording on her part she nearly cost me getting my Formula.Several thousand dollars was put down on my Formula and she knew it.The former carwas traded in and sold immediatly.No problem except that there was almost 2K owee on it.So now you see the problem.I put all my eggs in one basket to get this car.Never mind she had just sold the truck she did not fully pay-off by half and bought a 2000 GTP.I knew this was gonna happen but trusted her to keep her word.My bad!

4.On the day of court for the retraining order I was forced prior to court to pay-off her debt of $1884 to keep my former car from getting repossed from it's new owner.Never mind I had just spent all my money on the Formula.Well I came up with the rest of the money.Thank The lord for that.Pure miracle.A lot of timing and a lot of prayer....The only way it works in my book.

5.She lied her arse off in court and I just smiled and said I have never and would never hurt anything of hers or to her.Very true for me to say.It's just not me.She said I had been Near Stalking her and threatening her..Not true...I have wanted nothing to do with woman for a long time!Just for her to pay off her debt as she said.She is a fabulous liar and Bull****ter..mattere of fact the best I have ever seen.

6.From the day of court forward I have had NO contact on my behalf or any of my friends. She has E-mailed me and IM'ed me twice.too which I did NOT respond.She has had a conversation with my employer discussing That she still loves me and is sorry for all this and is considering dropping the order of protection..She then showed my boss the ring I gave her a year ago and said she never takes it off.Now does this sound like someone that is scared of me ?.I have one better for you!

Two weeks later me and a female friend of mine and a couple of other friends are a club here in town..My Ex walks up behind me and proceeds to pour a drink on my head and turn around and walk away.WTF......must I be continually taunted?...I stood up and thought for a second then called the Police and made a report to which that did NO good at all. Sound fair?.Not too me!

I have filed affidavits against her for her actions and the courts are ignoring them until they are serious enough......kinda sucks to be the guys in this situation.

One week ago I am driving home from work and I get to the house and hear a hissing noise from my rear tire...Go to the tire shop and they pull out a Razor blade?....Wtf?....stuck straight into the tire....Nice Huh?....and then today My roomate tells me that she stopped by his business for something for her car. She never went up to the front to enter the business for obviuos reasons.She is not welcome there and will be Trespassed if she shows up.My roommate walks in the back and see her car pulled up and sees her.She attempts make small talk and askes about me.Too which she got the Short End of a swift get lost and never return!....


How much do I have to endure from this woman?....she clearly has No respect for her own order of protection.

She is getting more and more aggresive in her means of contact with me and that will surely land me in the Pokey if I F-up?.....Do you guys see my problem.

I have a wonderful girlfriend that I love very much now and I want her to Have NOTHING to do with this Piece of trash!
MY Ex went after my former Girlfriend the first time they saw each other. Maybe you can see my need for concern now.

When she does see her with me I am certain there will be some form of trouble from my Ex. Period.This I don't want to happen.I simply want nothing to do with my ex ever again.This is the bed she made and now she can sleep in it!......

What the hell am I supposed to do about this?...the courts aren't helping me and I feel like my hands are tied behind my back.I f she does something she gets away with it.If I do something I go to jail!

I would forward the emails on to the DA's office showing that SHE is tring to make contact, not you.

maybe these guys can help you :D

all jokes aside , maybe a restraining order against her would work.

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Pay somone to start dating her!

Someone you don't like.
I would get a lawyer to advise you. Keep any and all evidence you can come up with. TAKE PICTURES! Keep a digital cam with you at all times. Maybe your girlfriend should have one too. Its easy to get a gun in florida, get your girlfriend one.
Keep your cool and good luck!!!!!!!

DUDE NO GUNS!!!! Just remember this COOLER HEADS PREVAIL!!!!!!! I can not stress that enough. You have always been level headed about things like this with other memebers on the board, now it is time for you to try and do the same. You can get a restraining order out on her. You have your friends and all come to the hearing with you and tell the story about the beer and you should be set. Your girlfriend can also get a restraining order out on her (sadly probably easier to do then you :(:( ) Man I wish you the best. I know how hard it is to move on when someone like that keeps sticking their head in were it does not belong. Hopefully she will get a new guy and forget about you, but untell then DO NOT send ANY reply's and print out and save ALL your emails. Emails that I had printed out seem to have got me out of a psycho former employee's sexual harasssment suit.

Jon

Definitely, speak w/ an attorney who handles criminal cases. That is what I do for a living but I'm in Nj so my advice wouldn't necessarily apply to your state.

I agree with GO4BROKE

A lawyer would definately help. File a restraining order against her. This way any contact she has with you will get her arrested.

You have plenty of reason to file one because of the malicious damage she has caused. The court will definately side with the woman at first. They always do. Its just how the system works. Save the Emails, phone messages and take pictures whenever you can. You have to attack her character and credibility in court and provide witnesses. show the court she is the whacko. Sue her for all your cash out of pocket with regards to the cars and trucks.

Fat Daddy...nice to know your around... you never know when I may need you. I had a problem back in 2001 and attacked her credibility in court. Had a couple of cop friends testify as to her demenor and She dropped the restraining order and we went our separate ways. It could have been ugly if I hadnt of been friends with alot of cops in town.

Shorgasm....good luck

Document EVERYTHING, record EVERYTHING, take pictures of EVERYTHING!!!!! Get your ducks in a row and call an attorney. They can schmmoze the authorities much better than you can. With this sort of situation I would think you will get more done behind the scenes with an attorney than upfront, remember, all the judges are attorneys as well. Be prepared to lay down the facts, this is where the documentation, pictures and recording takes place. Beat her with organization, discipline and a cool head. It's more fun to outsmart someone and make them look stupid than it is to smack them around. If she is a liar, eventually she will contridict herself, like it sounds like she has done quite a bit of, and that is when Ole' Shore is sitting there with a tape recorder in his pocket.....grinning like a fox in a meat wagon (better be sure FLA law allows that though!!;) )

Keep your cool bro, you will beat her, liars always screw up eventually.......Good luck, A4

I'd sue her for the money she cost you for the car. That would get her into court and you might walk out with something to show for it.

Did your divorce decree have a property settlement attached? It should have spelled out who was responsible for paying the loan you had together.

As far as getting Restraining Order, make sure you get an actual Order of Protection. They are issued by the Criminal Courts and enforceable by police. Restraining Orders are issued in Civil Court and the Judge who issued it must issue a warrant for the person that violated it. At least this is how it works here.

In many cases,here, Judges are reluctant to issue mutual Protection Orders. I guess there thinking is "why would a person who has a PO against some one want to harrass that person" They don't see the real world of "I got a PO, I can F*** with you all I want, and you can't do do chit about it"

I would have your new GF get a PO and one for yourself if they will give you one. Get a voice activated tape recorder and document EVERYTHING.

sue her in civil court for sexual harrassment.......

Just Woah.

Shor,
I would talk to the local DA office and try to schedule a meeting with them and bring all your documentation with you. Good luck, and you're right, the FL courts favor women over men, I know, I got divorced here!
MD

Call her and offer to take her for a nice boat ride out in the mighty Atlantic. It's an awfully rough body of water and its REAL DEEP!!! :hothead:

All seriousness aside, the attorney thing is probably the best idea at this point.

hey shoregasm,here in fl we guys call it the she said law.......theres absolutly nothing that can be done,she could accually beat your but and you will still be the one to get in trouble,a man get an injuction,your better off prayin for snow in the keys..........get an appointment with the DA,GOOD LUCK,its the DA that sets up these she said laws,Ive had three in the past two years and its the DA that dropped all the charges,proved that she was the problem and then filed it as a NO INFORMATION,in absolutly no way does the DA want to charge or let a man file an injuction on a woman in this state.......it would blow there whole theory that woman are afraid of men........you got to remember that this has now become a political issue,it doesnt matter about right or wrong,its politics......its the DA that puts these laws in order and sets these conditions up in each county!!!!!!!!!all these officers that you call,there trained by the state to arrest men.....even if they got to make S!@t up.....if you want to here about some funny stuff send me a pm.....Ive got a couple of articles that will explain this better!!!!!!!!

Sounds way too f*cking familiar...:hothead:

OG:cool:

1. Attorney
2. Document everything
3. Define if it is worth it for you financialy and emotionaly to sue on the civil side that waste of skin. (From the numbers you mention remember you can't get water out of a rock, you'd just make your attorney richer)

G.L.

PS: I'm not an attorney but i did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

If all else fails then screw her sister or her best friend!!!!

This is a good test for your new girlfriend and from the sounds of it she's not bailing out. sounds like she's sticking with you despite the B.S. and thats most important. Hope things work out for you.

Just keep your cool! Remember good guys always win!!!!!

Shor,

Is this Jen? Email me pics and I'll post them in the unsencored section for you. That'll teach her.

I'm allways glad to help bud.

Not gonna mention names but we know who it is.....this is for my own good.....and no you can't get blood from a rock......but soon that rock might have some blood so i'll wait till then.But it's not about the money well not to me.That's over and done with.I don't trust this girl and she is extremely unstable.She is seeing someone else or at leats was.I DO NOT CARE!.Good luck to her leave me alone!.It is harder than hell to explain and be cautious about your Ex around your new girl and not get the new one upset with constantly seeing the old one around town.Just waiting for the next move by her.What will be the next thing she does?

I give seriuos props to my girlfriend Tammy.......she has put up with this and has ZERO problem with it.She just asks that she is informed about what is going on and when The EX is around.Now Miss Tammy can be a little protective of me and this is to be expected from a redhead.....so I don't see her putting up with any of my EX's crap.Of which is totally new to me as you guys already know my ex had NO problem with any other girls attention of any form towards me.Now it seems she doesn't want me nor can any one else have me.Well I guess that Bipolar is kicking back in again.............

Greetings Shor....

You think things are bad now?...they can get a whole hell of a lot worse in the blink of an eye. Trust me amigo..I've been there.

The state's attorney doesn't give a flying **** about whether you didn't do something - you're a man. If you have tits and a p*ssy, your word is enough and **** any contrary testimony or outright proof showing you didn't.
Wanna know what can happen if you get accused of violating that restraining order? Kiss your ass goodbye...the court system doesn't f*ck around with men who violate orders of protection/restraining orders. And do you think it actually matters if you actually DID violate the restraining order?...no...it only matters that she SAYS you violated the order. You go to jail...and can explain your side months later when you finally get a court date. And oh yeah...spend about $5K on a lawyer.
Get accused of violating an order twice?...all the money in the world won't be enough to bail you out.
And God forbid you don't have CONCRETE, IRREFUTABLE, IRONCLAD proof showing you didn't actually do something. Hell...you MIGHT get off if the Pope vouches for you. Otherwise get used to sucking pole in the slammer and having a police record when you get out.

I was lucky...VERY LUCKY. My ex was too stupid and f*cked up her lies...and I was smart enough and lucky enough to get a piece of hard, irrefutable proof showing she lied. But it still cost me a chunck of money, 2 days in jail, time off work to go to multiple court hearings, my reputation was trashed, my local law enforcement people got to know me real well, and a great deal of my sanity was spent being pissed off.
Can I go after her in civil court?...you BET. Will I win?...without doubt. My lawyer has sharp teeth and a taste for human flesh...he's really good. I wouldn't even need a lawyer...it would be like shooting fish in a barrel blindfolded.
But like you all I want is the nightmare to be over and move on with life.
You want to e-mail me I'd love to take this out of this forum and address your options with you - Psycho Ex still peruses this site and while I won't give her handle out, some of you have heard the stories and know the sh!t I've dealt with so I don't need any crap.
You need to be really careful Shor...I'm serious as a heart attack about that. You're in a very bad spot...worse than you can imagine - trust me.
I lost 99.9999% of my faith in the "system" and in law enforcement over this issue....2 t!ts and a p*ussy take you really far in cases like this.:hothead:

Shorgasm
 

GLH had good advice for you; document everything even handwritten notes. The emails are documentation. Document the meeting she had with your boss. Have your attorney send her a letter warning her to stay away from you!

I would file a claim in small claims to get back the $ if the settlement stipulated she was to pay it off. Debt goes with the assets that are associated with them. Your car should have been released as co-lateral and her truck placed as her colateral.

I would consider asking for a PO from her since this clearly is the case, or check on a stalking law.

Bottom line keep your cool and your wits. Try to stay away from places you are likely to run into her.

Wannabe

Well I know this will clarify a little.....we were never married and share no mutual property anymore.....

We did live together for a couple years.....

I have filed affidavits for violation of her own restraining order.in Which swore to her Im's on the computer and her conversation with my employer.I also noted that she did the whole drinik thing.I want to clarify that I have not seen this girl out at any of the clubs in longer than i can imagine.She showed up and told the bartender she was gonna come sit with us.WTF?...Kim the bartender figured okay whatever....I never knew she was there.....and certainly didn't so anything other than having a girl sitting next to me.As a matter of fact I didn't even know who did it till I saw her walk away and well the look on my roommates face.....Still not mad at her......just feel this is not fair!

I have done NOTHING to deserve this and are doing everything in my power to stay away. After I filed the affidavits the judge read them and in his infident wisdom chose to taker NO action.Fore god's sake the drink thing was a form of simple battery.The Cop wouldn't even write up a report.he even knows who she is and says she is wacko....what else do I have to put up with from this trash?

I can't wait to see what happens this weekend from this weeks events at my roommates shop.........My ex doesn't take rejection very well!Nor being told to F-off and leave.......but I am sure i will get the blame for this soomer or later!...

I had to get one of those restraining orders for my daughter after some punk started bothering her and her new boyfriend. Read that thing carefully it does have teeth. Both ways, she has to stay away from you as well. If she continues to harrass you she may be in violation of her own restraining order.
Have a buddy document on video her doing her most evil and take to the Judge that issued the order. That may turn the tide in your favor. However at all cost, dont get in touch with her or your the one doing the violating.

I don't know how OP's work in Florida, but in Illinois if YOU are the one that got served the OP then YOU cannot have contact with the person who filed it.
THEY can call you, come over to your house, e-mail you, get within 1 foot of you - and there is NOTHING wrong with it as far as the OP is concerned.
Also, you cannot file "cross complaint" orders of protection. Once an OP has been filed against you, you cannnot then file one against the other person.

Of course when you FINALLY have your day in court you can explain it to the judge and have the OP quashed. But in the meantime you walk a VERY fine line and are at the mercy of someone who may be mentally unstable.
What I always did when I went out was to immediately get the manager of the establishment I was at, explain the situation, and simply asked that if Psycho showed up that SHE be asked to leave because I was already there. (one time she jumped into my boat, stole the keys, and left me and 3 others stranded at 1a.m. at a waterfront bar/restaurant. Had to leave the boat there and change ingition switches the next day - don't worry - I now know how to hot-wire my boat so that will never happen again).
100% of the time they (managers) were understanding - most who knew my situation (she is a remarkably memorable whacko) remembered me as the weeks went by and had NO problem asking her to leave if/when she showed up somewhere I was at.

Oh yeah...I forgot to mention she was drinking buddies with the judge that signed off on the OP. I had him recuse himself from my case - sad sack piece of sh!t should be taken off the bench for what he did. I have no faith in the justice system....

Oh buddy this sounds familiar......I have been told by some people that she was screwin some cop here.......No big deal then came the OP......Go figure......she wanted to get out of paying....fine....but screw my record up at the same time....shame on U!.......:mad:

I have had NO ZERO record with law run-ins till now...and will continue this way of life.....this just scares me a biut because she is rather unstable.......her moods are like the tides.......and go by NO actions of anyone but herself....it's sad but i feel sorry for her still and the poor bastard she deals with next....:confused: God help him.

I understand the part where she can;t get in trouble for violating her ownOP but she commited simple battery against me and the cop didn;t do anything about..even with my deep concerns......hell I had to go have someone get my car from where it was parked to move it up front into the managers spot so they could keep an eye on it......that's friggin pathetic....:rolleyes:

I really feel it may be in my best interest to file a OP against her and it has been suggested twice by different cops.....so that is still possible.....$135 possible but still possible.

I will never understand women....well i take that back.....I will never understand that woman!.......she just doesn't get it....her actions hurt people in her life and it ALWAYS comes back to her......she was a girl that if she EVER asked me for help I would have done anything in my power to help her.......NOT NOW!....NOT NEVER!......I helped her out on some things right before this all blew up and this is what i get.......Shame on them the first time...then Shame on me the next!.....:confused:

hasahas

And thinking like this my friends is why Men rule the world and always will!!!:D