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Old 01-08-2003, 04:28 PM
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I've got a '97 Sea Doo XP (first year for the suspension seat).
It's advertised as a two seater, but even that is a pretty liberal statement. Unless the second passenger is a small child, two full grown adults will tip over on an XP. The hull is very narrow and has an extremely high center of gravity. This boat will tip over, many, many, many times. The "Dreamomter" on the Sea Doo reads 58 mph at WOT. The best I've ever been able to pace her with the boat is 50.0 mph on the GPS.

I've had MANY guys claim their PWC goes 70 mph ("I can beat that there cigar boat of yours..." ), only to run away from them at 60 mph. However, I did pace a Kawasaki model a few years back at an honest to god 70 mph. The fast ones are out there, you just have to sort through all the bullschitters first.

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Old 01-08-2003, 05:07 PM
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We does Chris get out of the big house?

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Old 01-08-2003, 05:48 PM
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Old 01-08-2003, 06:50 PM
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Ike, there are several "gotchas" on used SeaDoos...

Item 1: you mention a GTX XP. There are either GTX models or XP models and since you do specify a 3 seater, that rules out the XP so I'll go with the GTX.

The '97 GTX in green is the best seller and most popular of the used 3 seaters. The '97 uses the tried and true 787cc Rave rotary valve motor. Runs low 50's (shows 58 on the dream meter).

The '98 GTX "standard" was not available. In 98 the GTX was either a GTX Limited uses the big 947 carbureted twin or a GTX RFI. The 947 motor vibrates stronger than the 787 and while offering improved ski pulling power, then top speed is only 2 mph more. Fuel usage is significantly thirstier. The motor is also significantly larger than the 787 and is hard to reach around to work on it...

The "other" GTX available in '98 is the GTX RFI. It has a 787cc fuel-injected rotary valve Rave motor. A good variation on the standard 787, it is the first year for the RFI motor and did indeed have teething problems. It is very quiet though.

With all that said, the Rotax SeaDoos are good boats, but there is a particular issue that can bite your butt off.

Sea Doo crankshafts are notorious for flaking the hard-chrome off of them while sitting. The only way to be sure that you won't have flaking problems is to KNOW that the boat was properly fogged EVERY TIME the boat was stored for more than a week.

If the boat was ever stored with condensation in the motor and not fogged properly, it WILL flake chrome. Once this occurs, you have between ten minutes and 20 hours before the rod bearings start hammering OR seize up on the crank, breaking the rod and punching it through the cases so many times that it almost cuts the block in half (yes, I have seen a great many of these now-worthless blocks).

Whenever we takd a Sea Doo in on trade or buy one from auction, etc, we ALWAYS figure in the cost of a crank kit and labor (appx $500) before determining whether it is a good deal or not.

Hope this is helpful. I'll be happy to forward more info if you need it.

As far as price, we sell NICE used 97's with trailer and 30 day warranty for $3,600 to $4,000. We actually kind of shy away from RFI boats since we had to eat a $650 computer on one.

We did sell that one for $4300 with no trailer but it came back three times until we popped for the puter...
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:00 PM
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Here's the spec. sheet on the '97 GTX (couldn't find '98).

http://www.tappedin.com/hop/html/sd_gtx.htm

I just bought a very clean '97 GTI (85 HP). Paid $2600 for it w/ brand new trailer. Three seaters are the only way to go. Maybe I'll see you at the Flats this year ('Yo, R Addiction- I'm the guy w/ the red kayak from last summer. Remember?)
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:49 PM
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My ridding partner of many years has the 97 GTX so the things I am about to say are well founded.

His 97 GTX is a dog. It will barely pull him (6 ft and 160) up on a salom ski, it uses more gas at cruising speed (45 or so) because he has to keep up with our 96 XP and 98 GTX. We ride 70 to 90 miles a weekend. 12 or so weekends a year. I havn't noticed any extra vibration with the 98 GTX that the 96XP and 97 GTX (same motor) have. If you want to ski behind it only, buy the GTI.

I've got over 120 hrs on my XP and have never fogged it before. The dealer said he's rarely seen a motor as clean as mine when he did the 100 hr tear down. Maybe that's just west coast weather.

Hopes this helps a bit.
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:31 PM
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My buddy just put a deposit on a new 2003 Sea doo. Get this, It has 185 HP supercharged. Great so now some snot nose kids are going to be blowing my Sunsation away come summertime. They claim this thing will do at least 80mph stock? Can this be true?
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:58 PM
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stock 80mph. sorry, I'll have to see it to believe it.

so far, nobody has gone 65 box stock...
I'm not sayin its not happening, I just am real skeptical till I see it myself...
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I've got a 68 mph GPS Ultra150 - it didn't run but 62 as a stocker... (speedo shows 76 at 68GPS)...
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I remember you Arks. How are ya? Can't wait for summer! see ya soon.
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