Wait a second, I have to get the popcorn and beer :)

Hope this isnt' going to open a can of worms, was just curious.

Never mind. Just searched and see Apache. Would take forever to bring me up to par on this one.
Just never followed the Apache stuff.

Well, my popcorn got cold before anyone posted what Ben is best known for.:)

Mr. Kramer is a guest of the United States government, currently residing in Terre Haute Indiana. Beside the boat business, he had a lucrative pharmacutical importing trade. He also was responsible for the murder of Don Aronow if I recall correctly.

He did not work and play well with others...

i have the tape of american speed and beauty, if anyone is interested in viewing it i would gladly make copys to pass around.

thanks to OSO for going through so much effort to try to make this tape available for everyone to see, to bad the lawyers have the final say:(

horseplay 3 , read speed kills , if you have'nt already, ben took a plea to get out of a certain jail, i do not know if he did it for sure, aronow had many sides that only came to light after his death.

I found these links if anyone is interested in OLD news
http://www.njppc.com/OldOffshoreStor...erarrested.htm

http://www.njppc.com/OldOffshoreStor...Sept261996.htm

Naw, I know who Don is. He learned everything about high performance boat building from Reggie. :D :D

Wow, that's only 2 hrs from me. I go through TH every so often. Don't know what government building is there, but I do know they have a prison. ;)