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Robingo 12-17-2006 11:24 AM

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Did somebody say they wanted to hear about the attempted helicopter escape? I happened to be at the MCC that day.

Biggus 12-17-2006 11:34 AM

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Sure, lets hear all about it!

Comanche3Six 12-17-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robingo
Did somebody say they wanted to hear about the attempted helicopter escape? I happened to be at the MCC that day.

Robingo
You've been everywhere with everyone except Davy Crockett at the Alamo. If you have something to add please stop asking if OSO members want to hear it. Just say it.
Thanks
Ed

T2x 12-17-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
Robingo
You've been everywhere with everyone except Davy Crockett at the Alamo. If you have something to add please stop asking if OSO members want to hear it. Just say it.
Thanks
Ed

Crockett was a stud that day...but Jim Bowie fought like a maniac.... :D

T2x

Robingo 12-17-2006 09:41 PM

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The day the soldiers came it was a hot day in San Antonio.

Comanche3Six 12-18-2006 04:08 PM

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Lol!

iamjoe 12-18-2006 05:31 PM

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This would be a great interview. Get this: the other day my bride was digging through old boxes of Christmas stuff and she found my copy of Speed Kills. I just finished reading it a little while ago.

For the record:
In his early days Ben used to sell small little amounts of pot; he was almost always at the band-shell @ Hollywood beach. I knew a guy, who knew a guy who used to buy pot from Ben.

The same guy had later made friends with two pirate-types who had a mid-sized Hatteras that was heavily involved in the importing business. Ben's name was tossed around pretty freely in those days.

It was a history-filled time to be in South Florida:

Liberty City riots (Arthur Duffy)
Mariel boat lift
Bails of Pot falling though the ceilings of trailer homes in Pompano.

Right before everything changed from Pot to Cocaine

Robingo 12-18-2006 08:54 PM

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Are you talking about Pirates World in Dania? I saw everybody there:Zepellin, the Byrds,the Dead,Allman Bro's, Pink Floyd, and many more. Ben was a drummer and I was a bass player, and we used to run into each other.

thedonz 12-18-2006 11:46 PM

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Does anyone know who was Ben's uncle ?...i'm sure it's not secret but i'm sure many of yall don;t know

Mike

Robingo 12-19-2006 12:18 AM

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My understanding is that Maxine knew a niece of Lansky. According to one writer, that's close enough to call Ben the "putitive heir". Makes for interesting reading, I suppose. Ben used to carry a $1000 bill he said was once owned by Al Capone. I saw the bill, but I couldn't tell you from where it really came.

O.C.Barry 12-19-2006 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
What's the big curiousity with Ben K? :mad: He's a bag of chit. Why put him on a pedastel, he killed everybody's favorite hero. Shipped millions of dollars in drugs, hurting the fabric of society. Most including me, are ready to throw the key away for poor asss Troutly, another bag of chit. Why doesn't Big Ron P. set up an interview with Troutly. Or maybe GoodT, I'm sure he's available. What goes around comes around. I'm sure most here could own 150 million dollar casinos if we worked illegally, killed, and screwed everyone that gets in your way.

I only get on the board occasionally so forgive the lateness of my question. If I recall, Troutly was a board memebr with an avatar of flashing police lights and I thought he was a police officer. What happened to Troutly?

dmaxx3500 12-19-2006 07:39 AM

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i was told ben was Myer lanskys nephew?

Downtown42 12-19-2006 07:41 AM

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Troutly was a cop now in the slammer for 1 yr. Got caught doing his 13 yr old niece :mad: Denied everything here till the court date. Ended up crying in front of the judge saying the stress of the job made him do it. :bunny:
He collects tax payers lifetime pension of 50-60k a year :mad:

A sad final blow, his niece just got killed by a drunk driver few months back. :(

How's that. What a Fuc@in Jag-Off.

thedonz 12-19-2006 09:06 AM

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None of you are right.....wow i would have expected an answer already

Mike

Biggus 12-19-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
Troutly was a cop now in the slammer for 1 yr. Got caught doing his 13 yr old niece :mad: Denied everything here till the court date. Ended up crying in front of the judge saying the stress of the job made him do it. :bunny:
He collects tax payers lifetime pension of 50-60k a year :mad:

A sad final blow, his niece just got killed by a drunk driver few months back. :(

How's that. What a Fuc@in Jag-Off.


Wow, that's pretty sad. :(

Dano 12-19-2006 10:33 AM

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Many espousing a higher moral authority have been laid low when the light of true reality is shown. Some have no known limits to hypocrisy.

Benny might have been a drug dealer and questionably a murderer...but he didn't claim to be a choir boy. Arronow phucked a lot of people over and who knows who really did the deed.

However, reading this chit is entertaining. Kind of like watching monkey's trying to open a pringles can. :evilb:

woogie 12-19-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
Does anyone know who was Ben's uncle ?...

Mike

Sam Gilbert from the Bicycle Club fame ?

Shane 12-19-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
Does anyone know who was Ben's uncle ?...i'm sure it's not secret but i'm sure many of yall don;t know

Mike

Could you at least put up something challenging? Of course we know who Ben's Uncle was/is. His parent's sibling. DUH! :evilb: :p

thedonz 12-19-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane
Could you at least put up something challenging? Of course we know who Ben's Uncle was/is. His parent's sibling. DUH! :evilb: :p



who ?

Mike

lowblue320 12-21-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
who ?

Mike

who is it Mike?

Robingo 12-29-2006 10:10 AM

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The only uncle of Ben's I knew was David Portnoy. Muriel Portnoy was the secretary at Apache.

PurpleStuff 12-29-2006 11:17 AM

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interesting thread guys...

i cannot read what yall dont type. keep it coming...

FeverMike 12-29-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lowblue320 (Post 1970127)
who is it Mike?

Mike Portnoy is the drummer for Dream Theater.:D :rolleyes:

el indio 12-29-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleStuff (Post 1976410)
interesting thread guys...

i cannot read what yall dont type. keep it coming...

and which "agency" are you with?

PurpleStuff 12-29-2006 12:00 PM

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agency?? i enjoyed the thread and have always wanted to read the books yall talk about, but never gone through the process of obtaining one and sitting down to it...

so, i asked for more just as it seems that everyone does when they keep this thread at the top.

danh63 12-29-2006 04:06 PM

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i have been following it too

Robingo 12-31-2006 12:34 AM

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I went to high school with Richard Portnoy, Ben's cousin. The two of us were involved in a big fight with the jocks, and I got kicked out of school for "Inciting a riot". Later on, Richard was Ben's PR guy at Apache, and like I said, Muriel, his mom, was the secretary there. Back then, it was like a family. Seems like one the first boats we made was an Aronow 39' Squadren mold that we bought from Don. We altered the transom angle, modified the hatches, and changed some other stuff. Saccenti thought it would make a great rough water race boat. Muriel developed cancer, and in the end she stayed with my wife a lot. David was a great guy, and Muriel was like the mom at Apache. This was early on, before any of the really bad stuff happened, and it was a whole new world to me. Everybody was excited about racing and working to do something good in the race world.

littlenige 05-28-2007 03:35 AM

Hey RonP - I suspect that it wasn't the warden who said no - probably a much higher authority was behind the decision. Shame all the same. Would make for a very interesting read.

f311fr1 05-28-2007 07:15 PM

Gen Kramers uncle by marriage was Meyer Lanskey


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