Well, I see that reading comprehension isn't a big one on your list of "smart" qualifications. Where did I question your intelligence? I asked for your identity because all too often as Shane said the low post numbers are there because the poster is hiding behind a new screen name solely for the purpose of raising schitt or trying to further a hidden agenda.
What I did ask was what makes you such an authority on offshore racing and the APBA. Your responce of "I know alot about APBA and I know alot about SBI" is pretty pathetic. I can say I know alot about nuclear physics and I know alot about brain surgery but that doesn't make it the truth now does it? If you truely know"alot" and aren't afraid to voice your opinion,then why are you afraid to identify yourself?

Hey Shane, everything is going pretty well. The OPA/Jersey Boyz meeting is this Saturday to straighten out a few loose ends,should be nuts as always, Kurt will Dyno the engines this week and pretty much we should be ready for Fort Myers, will let you know how all turns out. Have a good one, Augie.

Glad to hear it Auggie. Good for you. Good luck and do keep me posted. I hope to meet yout his summer at a race or two.

Shane

Shane
 

..hope you'll join us for a race or two this year..!!

..See you at the 'Fest....later though.. (thanks Vin ;) )

Marty

:cool:

Arn't we full of insults!! I'm a private person and really don't welcome stalkers with open arms that's why I choose not to reveal my identity. You really don't need to know anymore than that. I'm here to observe and if I wish to make a comment then I will do so. I'm sorry if you have a problem with those of us that do so.

Hope to see you at the Miami race this weekend!! How are ya doing Hotfoot? Are you racing this weekend?

Yep, exactly what we thought, figures...:rolleyes:

Do I sense some hidden jealousy or maybe a little hostility!! Or maybe I am missing something, are you not going to be there?

:D

Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Just read back to your comments towards Troutly before you type next time.

You have offered no facts to support any arguement though you have claimed to have great knowledge of the subject. You have openenly critisized a member of the board over something as silly as his avatar and seem to be inferring that I am a stalker. The likelyhood that I would stalk you is purely in your imagination. I will leave you with this simple thought,I don't take anything said by anyone that has no name as fact and not too many others will either.

Sean Rodrigue aka Airpacker.

Who needs facts? Attorneys convict on circumstancial evidence all the time. Oops I said the A word.:D

I was under the assumption that this was Offshore Only and that being anonimous was what it was all about. Note the USERNAME!

Brian, Nick, Chris - Thanks for explaining social skills to Speedchic. I've been traveling and away from the board. Looks like I missed quite a bit of the same old thing.

Speedchic - Any message is made up of both content and presentation. The perceived validity of that message is a function of both. If a well-dressed stranger shows up at your front door with roses and professes to be attracted to you, will you treat him differently than your stalker who jumps out from behind the bushes and clubs you over the head? Of course you will.

However: In their minds, they are both presenting you with the same message. I would guess, though, that your perception of that message is likely to be somewhat different between the two.

Same case here. ModMachine is a newbie here, but he is presenting his case in a rational, well-presented, and methodical manner. I'm sure that he's a bad choice from your perspective because he's on the "wrong" side, but I think you get the point.

Now, as far as what "makes one more knowledgeable about the facts":

1) Present the facts.
2) Back them up with specifics.

I've been through some sanctioning body wars. Right now the parent APBA is doing itself a lot of long-term damage. Way, way to much indication of skullduggery and behind-the-scenes maneuvering, and very, very bad timing. Even if they "win", what will they have? The rule book and sanctioning body initials do not make a series. Racers and race teams make up a series, and I think I hear what they are saying in this case.

I said it in another thread: APBA is on a path to follow the SCCA into oblivion here.

C-Spray,

Nice to see we are no longer using USAC as our bad example.

Just kidding.

As a new racer (you know the guy who will be quiting in three years) reading Mr. Alweiss's replay was comforting.

Today I was on the phone with the secretary of POPRA who is helping me get ready and she pretty much summed it up for me by stating, "Regardless of the APBA v LLC issues, we (POPRA) are going racing".

That is all I needed to hear.

Rick

btw. Just thought I would publicly thank Chris Reindl for his help in me finding a boat and his support of our new team. In the end we did not buy from him, but very much appreciate his help. We are looking forward to representing him on the west coast and showing what his boat can do.

Sorry ; sweety , We are headin' to Alaska for two weeks' ( I'll have my laptop) leave in a.m.

Just to apologize to everyone here about not using my real name.
I've got a business that needs to stay neutral in this deal.I dont want to bring any funk to my partner,so that is why my name stays anonimous here.Hope you all understand.

Now here's another thought
We know theres a handfull of guys on here with an axe to grind with MA,who would love nothing better than help him fall.A guy who got canned and boosom buddy to another guy who also has a chip on his shoulder for MA,is the man behind the alias known as Boatinjoe.,,Cant help but notice he hasnt chimed in here on this thred yet? Wonder why.

If I needed to go underground,so nobody would sniff me out on OSO,I'd probabyl make my new username chic!
Speedchic,,,do you know Boatinjoe?

Mike And Me
 

At someone's suggestion I spoke with Mike A. today and spent exactly 81min on the phone with him. I would like to thank him for his uninterrupted attention that he gave freely. I still have quite a few questions but they may be going toward some members of the APBA BOD very soon once a little more information is looked over. I suggest anyone that has a question to call Mike and ask him yourself. As for me it just gets more and more interesting as I learn more. Again I would like too thank Mike A for taking time to talk to me and give his insights to this whole big mess. For those that stand by him I can start to understand your loyalty.


Thanks to all
Matthew Barrett




:confused: Not so confused as before.:rolleyes:

Matthew
 

So now you see why I take up for the LLC. Apples for Apples it's as good as it's ever been for the racers. Still not one complaint from our guy's. BH

Re: Mike And Me
 

Matthew,
Great to hear! ;) :cool:

I wish everybody well!!!

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone!! I meant it as a figure of speech.

Speedchic,
If you are racing in SBI in Miami, have fun and be safe.
Although I race APBA, I'll be down there supporting my fellow SBI Racers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Battle Cry
[B]Who needs facts? Attorneys convict on circumstancial evidence all the time. Oops I said the A word.:D

The A word!? Who said Aardvark? Let's get'em!

Thanks Scott B!!

Sam,
Is this what you're looking for??? :


1. Meeting called to order by President Mike Jones at 9:08 am PDT.
2. Roll call: members present: M. Jones, D. Allen, C. Strang, B. Seebold, F. Hauenstein, Z. Boettle, M. Wheeler, J. Codling, A. Grabinski, G. Jacobsen, S. Fitts, M. Allweiss, and with E. Dawe by telephone. Douglas Bernstein attended the first day's meeting to get a feel for the by-law changes that will be required.
3. President Jones opened with a short statement that the purpose and direction of the meeting was to decide on future directions and then change the by-laws to conform with the decisions and plans for operation of the association. He stated that a conclusion would be met before this meeting was adjourned.
4. Al Grabinski noted that the Board of Directors was responsible to the members for seeing that the business of the APBA is properly and promptly attended to, and if the officers are not doing their jobs, the BoD must step in and correct the problems. 5. Douglas Bernstein gave a short legal report. The President stated that the by-laws would be brought into alignment with the operating rules of the association and corporate law following this meeting. It was stated that this is a properly called meeting of the APBA Board of Directors (BoD).
6. Greg Jacobsen gave a financial report, stating that the present Board and the officers had managed a turn-around that has put the association in a great financial position to go forward. In addition, use of "Quick Books" by the APBA office will allow faster and more accurate reports for the future. No increases in membership or sanction fees are contemplated for the 2003 season other than those incremental increases foreseen in the license contracts.
7. President Jones reported that due to the tightening of the insurance business, we expect some increases in the future. We have another year on our current contract with ASIS, allowing us the current good rates through the 2003 season. Discussion about possible reductions of insurance cost for small races or races with minimal risk brought a conclusion that the insurance committee will address such concerns before the rates are set for 2003. Other discussions included the possibility of self-insuring and other cost reducing measures. MOTION: By Stan Fitts, to reduce the insurance fee for the Pittsburgh race to equal that of similar races since the high risk elements have been corrected. Defeated.
8. The office software is all installed and up and working except the scoring module. A beta test of the scoring system, with Sally Titus and others participating, will be conducted right away. The APBA web-site is working well, but needs more input. Many questions are received concerning lack of information in certain areas, but little volunteer input is received to solve these problems.
9. The 100thannual meeting of the association is coming together well. A contract with the hotel is in the works. Various plans were discussed, including entertainment and a visit to the APBA HQ offices.
10. A letter from OPC Chairman, Mike Wienandt was discussed. Some action was taken and further note was made of his concerns for future actions.
11. Mark Wheeler reported that the combining of rules for the SO/MO/PRO categories is moving along after several iterations to answer concerns and make corrections. Mark will work with the category chairmen to establish a procedure to maintain the combined rules if approved. Much credit is due to Mark for his tireless efforts to bring this into being.
12. A wide-ranging and long discussion was then held concerning the future success of APBA and how to manage APBA to take advantage of our current favorable financial situation. MOTION: by Stan Fitts, second by Jim Codling: As a result, the APBA Restructuring Plan was adopted, by a vote of 10 to 2 with 1 abstention, to divide the association into two elements and put in place a new, smaller Board of Directors. The new BoD will be balanced, having equal representation from the License Contract side and the Performance side. The License Contract side will include any group/entity that has signed a licensing contract with APBA. That currently is the APBA Offshore LLC and the Hydro-PROP group that promotes and conducts the Unlimited hydroplane events. The Performance side will manage all groups that are not covered by a license agreement. This structure will become effective as of November 1, 2002. A document describing the new management structure is attached. The meeting agreed that the current Board of Directors will become the Performance Management Committee (board) and that the current elections will continue with the new members becoming members of the Performance Board. From this group, 3 members of the new APBA Board will be selected. This group will also select the APBA President, who can be any APBA member and who will be the chairman of the Performance Board. In addition, the Offshore and Unlimited category chairmen will be removed from the candidates for election to represent the category chairmen on the Performance Board. The BoD determined that financial stakeholders of the APBA's licensees would not be eligible for appointment to the new APBA Board from the Performance Division.
13. The BoD held a general discussion and all members made suggestions and comments about the future direction and success of the APBA. 14. Meeting adjourned at 1:30 pm on August 8, 2002. Fred Hauenstein, Jr., for the Secretary August 23, 2002

No, I have read that before, it is a regular Board of Directors Meeting from the time before there was a "super board". The meeting I refer to is the one mentioned in Mr Allweiss's opening post

Plus the minutes of any subsequent meeting or meetings

Meeting UH! What did I miss something!

Thanks Bud
 

Dockrocker,
Thanks for the picture, I was looking for that!!