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I tried to buy a set of 24'' tires and wheels on Ebay and the sellers name was maddawg61, He impersonated Ebay in emails to me saying I was insured to 10,000 and come to find out he does'nt have or plan on getting me the rims and tires, I pissed, any info to this idividual would be greatly appreciated and he will be rewarded when I find out, if I can , here is a small portion of it



Hello liquid,

If you have any problem please call me at:

1-800-FRAUDLINE

1-800-BITEME

--
Best regards,
office mailto[email protected]



Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 5:10:34 AM, you wrote:

lA> ----- Original Message -----
lA> From: <[email protected]>
lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:59 PM
lA> Subject: Re[2]:


>> Hello liquid,
>>
>> on the site I dont give my real name and location beacuse I dont want
>> someone to steel my cars
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> office mailto[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 4:56:47 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> lA> http://www.dubsplus.com/24/tahoe24.shtml
>>
>> lA> so your name is Mark S. from Tampa Fl.
>> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:49 PM
>> lA> Subject: Re[2]:
>>
>>
>> >> Hello liquid,
>> >>
>> >> How do you say about this picture ?Some one have this too with me in
>> >> the picture?I dont think so.AND what you see is 4 fingers ,for 4
>> >> wheels.That will be the last picture i will send you.OK.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> office mailto[email protected]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 4:37:51 AM, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> lA> Kindof funny how you have all those vehicles, but theyre all on
lA> that
>> lA> site
>> >> lA> with people with different names selling them. Hows that?
>> >> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> >> lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:33 PM
>> >> lA> Subject: Re[2]:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> Hello liquid,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes,why?
>> >> >>

>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> office mailto[email protected]

>> >> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 4:27:03 AM, you wrote:
>>>> lA> are these your cars to?
>> lA> http://www.dubsplus.com/24inch.shtml
>> >> >> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> > lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:17 PM
>> >> >> lA> Subject: Re[3]:>> >>
>> >> >> >> Hello liquid,
>>
>> >> >> >> This pictures are form my cars ,i have other cars too. Yes i have
>> lA> the
>> >> >> >> pictures of the Casions too.do you want to see them?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -- Best regards,
>> >> >> >> office mailto[email protected]
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 3:59:54 AM, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> lA> Is that your escalade? Do you have a pick of the Casinos,? Do
>> lA> you
>> >> lA> have
>> >> >> lA> them
>> >> >> >> lA> in stock? Are you going to relist with ebay?
>> >> >> >> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:50 PM
>> >> >> >> lA> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hello liquid,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Here are the pictures.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> >> >> office mailto[email protected]
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 3:04:54 AM, you wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> [email protected]>>
>> >> >> >> >> lA> Subject: Re: Re[10]: Question for seller -- Item
lA> #2412088518
>> >> >> >> >> lA> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:05:13 -0500
>> >> >> >> >> lA> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> >> >> >> >> lA> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> >> >> >> >> lA> charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >> >> >> lA> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> >> >> >> >> lA> X-Priority: 3
>> >> >> >> >> lA> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> >> >> >> >> lA> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
>> >> >> >> >> lA> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> lA> did you decide if you would put it on ebay for my
lA> protection?
>> >> lA> Can
>> >> >> lA> you
>> >> >> >> lA> send
>> >> >> >> >> lA> me a pic of the actual product
>> >> >> >> >> lA> ? sorry for all the questions this is just not going
lA> smooth
>> lA> and
>> >> lA> I
>> >> >> >> lA> can't
>> >> >> >> >> lA> afford to lose any money and I feel like any transaction
lA> over
>> >> lA> the
>> >> >> >> lA> internet
>> lA> should be secure

>> >> >> >> >> lA> Thanks
>> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:53 PM
lA> Subject: Re[10]: Question for seller -- Item #2412088518

Hello liquid,

This is my number 00447747715980.

--
Best regards,
office
lA> mailto[email protected]


>>
Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 2:49:14 AM, you wrote:

lA> but is that your number ?London should start with 0144
>> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> lA> Subject: Re[8]: Question for seller -- Item #2412088518


>> Hello liquid,
>> here is raining and the phone line is down

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> office
>> lA> mailto[email protected]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 2:44:41 AM, you wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Are you sure that is your number and ity does'nt
lA> start
>> lA> in
>> >> >> lA> 0144
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:12 PM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Subject: Re[6]: Question for seller -- Item
lA> #2412088518

Hello liquid,

First ,the insurance is for payment made via western
>> lA> union
>> >> lA> .No
>> lA> check
>>please ,will take to much to clear,sorry. Here is my
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> phone:00447747715980

card directly.

I said I would accept credit
cards but I don't accept them directly, but through a
>>secure third party, Western Union.
>>>> Western Union accepts online card cards from US
>> lA> residents.
>> >> lA> Jus
lA> visit
>> www.westernunion.com and click "on LINE MONEY
lA> TRANSFER"
You can transfer up to $2000 but in most cases just
>> lA> $1000.
>> >> >> lA> Check
>> >> >> >> lA> how
much you can transfer.
You may need to make 2 transfer from 2 credit cards:
>> lA> yours
>> >> lA> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> some relative or friend of yours.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Or you can make a $1000 transfer with your credit
lA> card
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> and a second transfer for the rest of money ( with
>> lA> cash )
>> >> lA> from
>> >> >> lA> a
lA> nearby
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> WU
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> agent ( click Find
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agent Locations to locate nearby agents )
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Or you can pay all in cash to a nearby agent.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I will use UPS express 2-3 days delivery time.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is the information for Western Union.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> First name: Andreas
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Last name : Kourakos
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Address: 109 Lower Richmond Rd,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Zip: SW15 1MN
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> City: London
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Country: United Kingdom.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> After transfer please send me Sender Name & MTCN
lA> (money
>> >> lA> total
>> >> >> >> >> lA> control
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> number from the Western Union receipt) & total amount
>> lA> that
>> >> lA> was
>> >> >> >> lA> send.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can help you to located the nearest Western Union
>> lA> office
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> just send me your name and address or you can check
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> www.westernunion.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> office
>> >> lA> mailto[email protected]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, April 22, 2003, 2:03:20 AM, you wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Can you give me your phone # where I can speek
lA> with
>> lA> you
>> >> >> >> lA> direct?
>> >> >> >> >> lA> How
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> are you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> able to offer at these prices? Can you give me a
>> >> lA> physical
>> >> >> >> lA> name
>> >> >> >> >> lA> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> address
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> for me to send a check? Can we still use ebay for
lA> my
>> >> >> >> lA> protection
>> >> >> >> >> lA> or
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> do
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> have a way to do it by credit card
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> From: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> To: "liquid Asset" <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:37 PM
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Subject: Re[4]: Question for seller -- Item
>> lA> #2412088518
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello liquid,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> YES i have them ,so we have a deal?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I got this email from ebay
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear user,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the
>> lA> following
>> >> >> lA> item:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Item #2412088518
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This auction listing has already ended on its own.
>> >> >> lA> However,
>> >> >> >> lA> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> listing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> was in violation of eBay's policies. We would
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like to take this opportunity to let you know what
>> lA> part
>> >> lA> of
>> >> >> >> lA> your
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> listing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> not allowed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1.) Offering in a listing the opportunity to
lA> purchase
>> >> lA> the
>> >> >> lA> item
>> >> >> >> lA> or
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> other
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> merchandise outside of eBay.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2.) Listings with low prices but unreasonably high
>> >> lA> shipping
>> >> >> lA> or
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> handling
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> costs
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3.) Listing an item that requires or offers an
>> >> lA> additional
>> >> >> >> >> lA> purchase
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4.) Dutch Avoidance - Listing a single item and
>> lA> offering
>> >> >> >> >> lA> additional
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> identical items for sale in the item description.
lA> In
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> these situations, the seller typically instructs
>> lA> bidders
>> >> lA> to
>> >> >> >> >> lA> indicate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> number of items they want, and states that they
lA> can
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> get the same price as the item in the listing.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 5.) Listings with an e-mail address or domain name
lA> in
>> >> lA> the
>> >> >> >> lA> title.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> Exception: This will be permissible only in
lA> listings
>> >> lA> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are offering a domain name for sale.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 6.) Offering items for sale in a manner that
>> lA> circumvents
>> >> >> lA> eBay
>> >> >> >> >> lA> fees
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is not permitted, as you were offering items
>> lA> for
>> >> >> >> lA> additional
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> purchase, which circumvents eBay fees.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We realize you may not have been aware of this
>> lA> policy,
>> >> lA> but
>> >> >> >> >> lA> practices
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> designed to circumvent or defeat the eBay fee
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> structure are not permitted by eBay.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This notice is based solely upon review of the
>> >> >> lA> aforementioned
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> listing.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> We
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> encourage you to review all of your listings to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ensure they are in full compliance with our
>> lA> guidelines.
>> >> >> lA> If
>> >> >> >> >> lA> found
>> >> >> >> >> >> lA> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lA> in violation of one or more of our guidelines,

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Fraub e-Dear eBay Community Member,


************************************************** ********

Find exactly what you’re looking for in the Gallery.
Now you can search on photos! Check out the Gallery at
http://pages.ebay.com/buy/gallery.html

************************************************** ********

Yes the seller deposited $10,000 as purchase protection for his
customers

You are protected by us

The transaction number TR00271788754 is correct, registered to the
transaction between seller Andreas Kourakos and buyer Jason Belcher.

It is insured for -24" Motiv Magnitude SET OF 4 WHEELS&TIRES. Insured value is $5,800.00.

The payment method is Western Union, the insurance is valid for
Western Union payment.

Always use the transaction number when contacting eBay about
this transaction.


Thank you for using eBay!
http://www.ebay.com

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Dear eBay Community Member,


************************************************** ********

Find exactly what you’re looking for in the Gallery.
Now you can search on photos! Check out the Gallery at
http://pages.ebay.com/buy/gallery.html

************************************************** ********

True about this :

Item #2412088518

This auction listing has already ended on its own. However, the listing was in violation of eBay's policies. We would
like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not allowed.

1.) Offering in a listing the opportunity to purchase the item or other merchandise outside of eBay.
2.) Listings with low prices but unreasonably high shipping or handling costs
3.) Listing an item that requires or offers an additional purchase
4.) Dutch Avoidance - Listing a single item and offering additional identical items for sale in the item description. In
these situations, the seller typically instructs bidders to indicate the number of items they want, and states that they can
get the same price as the item in the listing.
5.) Listings with an e-mail address or domain name in the title. Exception: This will be permissible only in listings that
are offering a domain name for sale.
6.) Offering items for sale in a manner that circumvents eBay fees


This is not permitted, as you were offering items for additional purchase, which circumvents eBay fees.

We realize you may not have been aware of this policy, but practices designed to circumvent or defeat the eBay fee
structure are not permitted by eBay.

This notice is based solely upon review of the aforementioned listing. We encourage you to review all of your listings to
ensure they are in full compliance with our guidelines. If found to be in violation of one or more of our guidelines, your
current listings will be subject to further disciplinary action, including the cancelation of your listings.

For a better understanding of our listing guidelines and how they affect the way you list your items, please visit the
following URL:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community png-list.html

Future listings that demonstrate a pattern of violations may result in the termination of all of your listings, and
repeated occurrences may jeopardize your eBay account status. We sincerely value you as a member of our trading community
and look forward to a continued successful relationship. To ensure this relationship, we must respectfully ask that you
abide by our guidelines and User Agreement in the future.

We thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Regards,

Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc
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His e-mail address, I would appreciate all the support I could get by you guys helping jam up his mail thanks [email protected]
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