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mr_velocity 07-21-2003 02:39 PM

I think there is more to it other than just using more names. Someone had mentioned that the multiple "names" were being used to pump their business for free on a board that makes money from advertising.
Personally I always looked to see what advice Bobby was giving. He really got me thinking about doing my roller lifters however do I now have to question his recommendations over which manufacturer to use. He beat Comp Cams pretty hard, was their a motive behind this? Just really need to question his recommendations now.

26scarab 07-21-2003 03:54 PM

This thread is getting real old.
So what , the guy owns a few businesses.

The original start of this thread was a complaint about Power Marine. Now it is a Jack Bailey slamming post.
Why ?

The important thing is to see if Power Marine makes good on Marks boat. And it sounds like he was trying.

mlitefan 07-21-2003 04:11 PM


Please read my corrected language. It was an example of how only 2 members have posted a problem, yet based on that many many members have hammered these people without anything to go on, except these 2 posts.
Again, to clarify, I have no knowledge of any specifics of THIS instance. I can however closely relate it to my past experience. I know for a fact that several members at that time did not come forward as we all hoped that Bruce Dudley would "make good" on his promises. Some people may be sitting back waiting to get their stuff done or corrected before making a statement that might pi$$ off these guys. Just a theory that was valid in MY situation. The builder could have just as easily had a bay day with these two members who came forward and this is NOT a regular occurrence.

I am in no way trying to imply these guys are con artist but there can be very valid reasons why people are not coming forward.

I actually had people PM'ing me telling me to shut up about Bruce because I would just piss him off. He still stole my money, and theirs.

Hopefully, this will all get worked out and everyone will live happily ever after. If anything, perhaps these guys learned the value of customer service. Keeping your customers happy will ensure they come back and tell their friends to come as well.

As Forest Gump says, "Thats all I got to say about that" :cool:

Audiofn 07-21-2003 04:26 PM

So how did it go today????

MovinOn 07-21-2003 04:36 PM

All i know is i sure hope this end's soon.dang harris teeter's super market done outta popcorn. Waaaaaaahhh.. Think i'll write a book Titled.. All the thing's you better Not do... if you don't won't anyone to know it on OSO. ok guy's don't rip my a@@ just havin fun ..he he this is fun Place isn't it.?

MovinOn 07-21-2003 04:39 PM


Originally posted by Cord
Just reset the password.
Chit now i done forgot wot it wazz. "again" e-mail it 2 me..

CHAOS REIGNS 07-21-2003 05:04 PM

no update -- its 6:15 EST

hey mr OSO -- can you enable blown1500 so he may respond?

Dock Holiday 07-21-2003 05:22 PM


Originally posted by Movin On
Chit now i done forgot wot it wazz. "again" e-mail it 2 me..
Your password is "Donald Duck":D

NYCDV8 07-21-2003 05:30 PM

Power Marine
 
I have been reading these post about Power Marine, and I agree that (mpejsa) definatley had a bad experience, but I live in NY and was referred to Robert about a year and a half ago. I have spent over $100K there in the past year and a half, and with the exception of two times there was no problems. On one occasion last year a week before the Atlantic City Poker run I had a blown a head Gasket and warped the head on a fairly new engine. Robert had the engine back to me as good as new with-in a week head work and everything. I recently just had them work 2 500 efi's which ran on the dyno at 635hp naturally aspirated. I have run them for the past 30 hrs and have been flawless. Everyone has some bad experiences, hell what business doesn't, but I would reccommened them to anyone. Robert has always been a class act with me, and as for the other people involved ....Who cares ...My boat runs great!

vagrant 07-21-2003 05:35 PM

Donald Ducky POO password movin on

H2Xmark 07-21-2003 05:40 PM

just goes to show most people dont talk about the good that someone does, they only hammer the bad about them, its always nice to hear some good news, hope Mark will have some good news also

CHAOS REIGNS 07-21-2003 06:36 PM

well -- still no word

but

I do need to say something here --

I drug bobby daniels, Jack Bailey and Ambusher into this -- and for that I do apologize -- not because I think they are completely innocent

but i apologize cause i really don't know -- I heard some things and put what i thought was 2 and 2 together

bottom line is i personally have not had any bad dealings with them as they are named.

I edited my first and second post very soon after posting --and i removed their names -- that maybe why some of this looks very confusing.

I hope to have an update soon


Mark

H2Xmark 07-21-2003 08:06 PM

keep us posted on the boat, i know you want it ASAP but it might take him a couple days,
Mark

26scarab 07-21-2003 09:27 PM


Originally posted by formulafastech
This is what people on OSO have to say about Bobby Daniels. None of these people are from anywhere near North Carolina. These are all from the thread on Comp Cams, which has been removed. BTY, OSO WHY was it removed??

From Birdog in Ohio:

Can we give Bobby D. his own section ?
"Bobby on Tech"

Thanks Bobby !! guys like you make this place !!!



From Ragtop 409 in Washington State:

Ya what he said! Rag's (reference to Birdog's post)


From Tripps in Long Island:

Iv'e been on OSO for a long time and Bobby Dainels tells the truth and always has good answers!!! Go Bobby!!! Tripps


and finally, part of the original post from Bobby Daniels. Make sure you notice how much he charged the customer for a repair that was not Bobby's fault. ZERO!


I can't charge the customer for this foul up so we have to eat tons of labor and thank goodness we cut the filter open at the first change or he might have been short 2 motors a few hours later .
Also a good buddy got a cam for his 29 fountain and 1 of my personal 2 is bad we found as well as Gregs above ,man !!!


Bobby/Jack has been tried/convicted/hung on OSO with no chance to speak for himself, in his defense.

From 26Scarab,
Although I haven't spent thousands of dollars with Bobby/Jack he still saved me quite a bit on replumbing my fuel system. Also he has the best price on Redline gear lube.
His tech advice as been helpfull and I'm currently talking to him on a cam to hopefully solve my lifter issues.
I don't see why he is still banned from OSO.

mcollinstn 07-21-2003 09:27 PM

OSO wants somebody to post a business license for Power Marine, but he has exiled everybody related to Power Marine (maybe not Ambusher, I'm not sure). That's odd.

Fknlawyer has branded all 40 miscreants as known con artists, but he must have access to privileged information cause I've not seen evidence or proof on this thread (with the exception of a separately-threaded message regarding lack of payment on some Whipple products that was difficult to understand and am not sure what it did or didn't "prove").

Bobby Daniels/Jack Bailey was convicted because he "thought" OSO was shaking its finger at him? (I also thought OSO was shaking its finger at him). The allegations were that he was involved in "gang-raping" the forum to "set the hook" on unsuspecting moneybags boat owners. I'm not convinced, given the "evidence" shown here.

Blown1500 rode a man's job for six months and then outsourced it to somebody who crammed it full of junk parts. That's hard to forgive, but he appears to be trying to right the wrong (which I promise is more than the guys around here would do - they'd let you drag them into court over it). I'm NOT trying to minimize Mark's pain at all. ALL boatowners have experienced some form of this treatment, and it is truly painful. But he is now a goner from this forum, too.

It was certainly in Mark's best interest for OSO to keep Blown's membership in the green until this issue was resolved. I feel that OSO has chosen a bad time to strip Blown from OSO cause he may now feel that he has no reason to keep his name clear on this forum.

Piling on. That's happening alright. While it would be tremendously helpful for those who HAVE experienced questionable dealings with Blown/Bobby, et al, to post them in this forum, all we're getting is he said she said. Clips of other threads that are out of context here, exaggerations, and worse. We've even got a complete contingent of chest-puffers beating their fists and claiming that NOBODY would get away with treating THEIR motors "that" way.

Jeez.

Mark, I truly hope you are treated fairly from this point forward cause it sure sounds like you've been dragged thru the mud up to this point.

Blown, I hope somebody gives you the chance to defend yourself if there is anything to actually defend OR to at least be able to fess up and apologize if you are really a con.

Bobby/Jack, I hope OSO gives you the option of renewing a membership with a non-misleading screen name and allowing you to attempt to clear your name as well.

Maybe OSO would let you guys come back if you would submit business licenses and maybe buy some ad space (not trying to be smart@ss, I'm trying to be serious).

OR

Maybe I'll get exiled cause I'll be tried and convicted of being in cahoots with Blown & friends.

Who knows.

cheers
M

mikes280 07-21-2003 09:43 PM

jack and i have been friends for over 20 years.i have gotten most of my parts for most of my motors from him.we all want what we want now not tomorrow but in this business i have learned that does not always happen.i have gotten him out of bed late at night to get parts his son has been a delivery boy for me . hell whenlighting blew up my big screen TV he loaned me one just as nice . it is not wright that he not be able to respond to this negative talk about him and it lowers the integrity of this board that it will not allow him that right. i am a member and not afraid to use my name but some of the people throwing dirt will not if you are going to talk about someone on this board have some balls and don't hide behind a screen name. mike ledford

MovinOn 07-21-2003 11:18 PM


Originally posted by Dock Holiday
Your password is "Donald Duck":D
Doc.. Doc can you fill in the blank's K--- M- B--- and as for thoes damn duck's i heard they was killed by some sharp shooter duck hunter this past season. then had the nerve to e-mail me and ask if i wanted em mounted.. i said Nope Flying would be just fine.. Oh and BTW you see where that rock hit your boat ..?

MovinOn 07-21-2003 11:28 PM


Originally posted by mikes280
jack and i have been friends for over 20 years.i have gotten most of my parts for most of my motors from him.we all want what we want now not tomorrow but in this business i have learned that does not always happen.i have gotten him out of bed late at night to get parts his son has been a delivery boy for me . hell whenlighting blew up my big screen TV he loaned me one just as nice . it is not wright that he not be able to respond to this negative talk about him and it lowers the integrity of this board that it will not allow him that right. i am a member and not afraid to use my name but some of the people throwing dirt will not if you are going to talk about someone on this board have some balls and don't hide behind a screen name. mike ledford
Oh Chit!! who's done pissed off the Big Boy. Mike i need nutter bucket popcorn .. bring me nudder one we close to each other.. but i'm with you .. he's never done anything, once more i'll post is but help me when needed..Jack i sure hope this mess get's straightened out & soon if not.. by golly i'm gonna have to get ut Ummm Fear This in water and come after you, don't know what i'm gonna do when i get there sure as h--- can't pick u up and throw you in water.i will need helppppppppppppp.

cuda 07-22-2003 03:43 AM

When Blown1500 came on and said he would make it right with Mark, I was thinking everyone else should get off his back so that Mark could get his boat fixed. The way everyone piled on, justified or not, Blown may have said "fck it, there's no way to clear my name now" and blown off Mark.

Everyone makes mistakes in business, it's how you deal with them that makes the difference. Let's hope Mark gets treated fairly.

vagrant 07-22-2003 06:50 AM

Well Said Mike

Allan4 07-22-2003 09:12 AM

mpjesa...you did the right thing by apologizing for draging them into this. I really hope you get squared away with your troubles.

Good luck

I tell ya guys, the more digging around I do, the more I am convinced that Bobby/Jack has done little wrong.....and certainly nothing that would warrant this sort of abuse he is taking. Has he made a mistake or two.....?? Probably, I'm not sure, maybe he has. But not enough to be getting hammered like this....hell, who HASN'T made the same mistakes. I make mistakes everyday....better look in your closets people...

Good luck to all, I hope your differences are resolved and that all parties recover, from what I consider, some very hardcore character damage...some of which seems very inconclusive and suspect....at best. True, honorable adults can work these things out...

Keep us posted...

Allan
:)

CHAOS REIGNS 07-22-2003 09:14 AM

thanks

I have not heard any news as of yet

any one want to call for me??? :-)

CHAOS REIGNS 07-22-2003 10:07 AM

just got a call from robert -- he says its ready -- i am going to get it and we are going to the water

PhantomChaos 07-22-2003 10:22 AM

Very cool!

HiPerf2000 07-22-2003 10:24 AM

Must not have been all that serious? did he say what was wrong besides the pushrods?

Good luck on your water test and let us know what happens.

Fountain38SC 07-22-2003 11:14 AM

Hope everything works out.

G-Force 07-22-2003 11:36 AM

Wow...hell of a long assed thread. Hope everything goes well for you Mark.

Not to jump a thread....but if someone could please either give me a phone number for Bobby D., or ask him to contact me at: [email protected] I'd certainly appreciate it.
Prior to all this he had stated he had a blower/intake to sell and I'd certainly like to speak with him about it.

Thanks!....Craig

rv 07-22-2003 12:02 PM

Craig,
Didn't you have some engine work down by Blown1500?

How did that turn out.

Rick

G-Force 07-22-2003 12:06 PM

I was "-" close to having them sent down to Blown1500 - but in the end they stayed where they were at and I finally got them about 2 weeks ago - 574 h.p. each.
I DID/DO have an issue with how they were completed, and the cost that was quoted...and I'd like to hear what you guys have to say about it...but rather than jump on this post, I'm going to start another post regarding the final outcome of my engines.

PhantomChaos 07-22-2003 06:16 PM


Originally posted by mpejsa
just got a call from robert -- he says its ready -- i am going to get it and we are going to the water

Well? Bang, POP or a Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

dyno 07-22-2003 07:15 PM

I need to know!!!!what happened at the lake?????

G-Force 07-22-2003 07:21 PM

Why do I either see him floating in the middle of a lake with a dead engine, or in jail for flipping out when the motor died?:eek: :eek: :D :D :p :p

ragtop409 07-22-2003 07:42 PM


Originally posted by Allan4


I tell ya guys, the more digging around I do, the more I am convinced that Bobby/Jack has done little wrong.....and certainly nothing that would warrant this sort of abuse he is taking. Has he made a mistake or two.....?? Probably, I'm not sure, maybe he has. But not enough to be getting hammered like this....hell, who HASN'T made the same mistakes. I make mistakes everyday....better look in your closets people...
Allan
:)

If you ask me the only people Is see get banned from the board make the BIGGEST mistake of all $$$$$$$$$$$$$ did he make some well helping people save some ?????????????????????? Rag's

VelocityMark 07-22-2003 07:45 PM

Guys I don't know why Mark has not posted a response by now, but I can tell you that he did go to the water and he did go for a ride and he did take the boat home. And from what I am hearing he was happy. Now lets just see if he is a man of his word, because it sounds as if Robert was a man of his.

Mark

PhantomChaos 07-22-2003 07:52 PM

Hopefully out getting ****-faced happy!!!!!! :D

dyno 07-22-2003 07:57 PM

I hope so!!then maybe I can get back to getting great free advice from all involved!!

CHAOS REIGNS 07-22-2003 08:30 PM

Sorry for the delay guy's!!!

Had a T-storm come through and my cable has been down till now.

details to follow

PhantomChaos 07-22-2003 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by formulafastech
MArk's ISP was down. Post will be up soon. Boat is fixed and running fine.

Yeah........SURE!!!! :D :D :D

CHAOS REIGNS 07-22-2003 08:43 PM

Ok -- met with robert this afternoon -- turned out the problem was a couple bad rocker's. For some reason they were not being oiled properly and they over heated causing the pushrod failure. (I am sure once robert is re-enabled he can give a more accurate description).

Robert put new ones in with a higher grade push rod -- fired it up and seemed to run fine. During this time Jack Bailey had called to find out how things were going. He then offered a set of Gold Crane roller rockers (at no charge to me). This was to ensure that there would be no issue at all with rocker failure ever again. I thank him and TJ(Ambusher) for providing the roller rockers and having that extra security in the motor.

Got them installed and adjusted (robert and his helper did it right there while i waited) and we then headed down to lake wylie. I met up with Ambusher and he went out for a ride to test out the motor. He did take some video and a few pictures (hopefully he will post it).

The only problems found were a leaky pepcock (just wasn't shut all the way) and the alternator belt was slipping. They were able to fix those two items on the spot and every thing ran fine. He did point out i had a leaky exhaust manifold which i already knew about (new ones will be on order shortly - -money money money).

So the bottom line is that power marine took care of me in the end.

Also i'd like to thank everyone on OSO -- I was truly "upset" with this whole ordeal -- and with your encouragement I gave them another shot -- and things worked out well.

I am up to 3 hours on the motor -- and I'll be taking it gently for a while -- but i have my fingers crossed that this phase of my boat project is complete.

Steve can you turn on power marine so they can respond

thanks

Mark Pejsa

CHAOS REIGNS 07-22-2003 08:44 PM

damn -- that does look like me !!!

although i am much more of a captain morgans kind of guy!!!


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