How much did Bruce Dudley get from you?
 

Ahhhh...the spectre of Mr. Dudley once again raises it's ugly head in the post "Most Wanted List".
Which lead me to wonder how much he really got away with?
Let's keep this thread fast and concise: just list the total amount of money you got screwed out of.
Money you PAID him and either didn't get services/parts for...or....parts/engines that disappeared.

We won't count poor engine assembly or engine problems in this thread.;)

0 My contract was filled.

I sent my engines to Bruce for a rebuild in July of 2001. I gave him $7,000 in cash to start. March of 2003, I got my used parts back (although he kept my bowtie blocks and gave me 2 used pieces of junk blocks - rusted out holes in the lifter valleys). With the junk blocks I am out another $4,000. Total = $11,000.

I am aware of 5 other people out cash and parts totaling $85,000. Some of these do not frequent OSO. He also skipped out on rent, not paid for custom parts he had ordered from area suppliers, and not paid machine shops for work performed.

Legal actions are in progress to hold him accountable for his crimes.

He was an OSO Advertiser, Tech moderator, and active contributor to OSO. Good intentions, bad businessman, common thief. Has not made any attempt to contact or pay restituion to any of the victims. Pisses me off every day when I think about how he took advantage of me, my family, and all the other victims.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Doug

PS - He is still in the St. Louis area, so be warned and beware.

bruce got about $4500 from me, BUT he did deliver an engine. To the best of my knowlegde it was the last engine he delivered to anybody.

Part of me feels damn lucky i didn't get my $ ganked, but another part of me feels almost guilty that my engine arrived while everyone else got screwwed.

FYI i have yet to fire up the engein he biult for me but it looks pretty good and 550hp for $4500 (plus a multimonth time delay and the fear that the engein might never arrive) is a pretty good deal.

Uh-uh-uh.....no innuendo or "my friend paid...".

I just want to know who here on OSO got scammed and how much they paid the guy.
If it wasn't you handing the cash over...it doesn't count on this thread. I'm certain there are countless non-OSO folks who got reamed out of their hard earned money...but I just want to know who HERE got robbed.

Anyone wonder what he did with all the money?:confused:

i was kind of wondering where it all went. My though were A. wicked gambling problem B. drug habit C. strippers strippers strippers!!!

Puder,

You can't hold him responsible if it's item C. ;)

yeah i know those damn strippers took all my money too......

anyone need an sc900 for $8500 ;)

Back when I was getting mine built he told me that he was 30k in the hole. He had a batch of engines go out with some bad clearances. Then kook f#cked his friend up and the wheels fell off. As typical when business start to fail, the income went to pay off past debts leaving no money for the current contracts. And no, it wasn't drugs. :rolleyes:

my enegin was part ofteh bad clearance batch he foudn out abotu it after teh first dyn pull and right be fore he was abtou to ship mine out. He opened it up, pulle dthe pistons and the wrist pins were already screwwed upfrom the dyno.

He did replace all the screwed up parts and did ship out my engine with no additional charge.

as for my previous comments i didnt; think it was a drug issue. quite frankly f someone blew 30k on drugs in that short a time they would be in no condition to attempt to biuld and engine.

Innuendo (n) - to insinuate, suggest, hint, intimate.

I have done none of the above. There are written complaints backed up with documentation that he stole approximately $85,000 in cash and parts.

Just so we all understand the "rules" of this thread, is he only a crook to those he stole from that post on OSO? People that were victims and submitted complaints against him with the St. Louis County PD, the Missouri State Attorney Generals office, and Kansas City Police Department do not count? Is that correct?

If those are the rules then what is the purpose of this thread? Just to find out how many OSO people willing to post have lost money to Bruce?

I know how much he has been accused of stealing and I know who he stole it from. I have spoken with the victims, some on numerous occassions. I have also spoken with his former landlord, the machine shops and the parts shops. So far they have not filed charges. Whether or not any of these people choose to post does not negate what he did.

The authorities now possess proof that he stole approximately $85,000 in cash and parts and are proceeding accordingly.

So if your thread "rules" only allow the victims of Bruce who post to count in your "OSO Only Total" then I am in for $11,000. However, the real documented total is much, much higher.

Doug

G-Force. Waterbum is dead on with his comments. When this is all said and done, Bruce Dudley will sit in jail for a long time. This is a very touchy issue for those of us ripped off by Bruce. You need to understand that.

I understand that this is a touchy subject...I'd be out for blood if I was the one who got ripped off.
I keep reading all these threads throughout the last months about money that was forked over to this guy...I just wanted one thread where it could all be listed and I just wanted the actual people who lost the money to post up.
And just to make it credible I wanted members to post up so we could all be certain who said what.
Out of 370 posts...only 1 person here lost money?
:confused:
I'm not sticking up for the guy - I think he's a bastard for not only stealing from people - but all the delays, lies, substandard work and B.S. he shelled out to people.

Cord
 

I hope I'm not bringing up a sore subject, but what ever happened to the dude riding w/Kook? I must've missed the update if there was 1.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Last I had heard was that he was still in a coma and that kook had parted out the boat.

Doug: Lighten up on G-Force. It is his thread and his question. If you want another thread to put your info in, start one. Hijacking someone else's thread is a little rude. I see the point of this thread, and I find it kind of interesting.

By the way, now that we have looked up "innuendo", why don't we try looking up "concise".:D

Kook's boat was parted out, and the complete hull and trailer were sold to another OSO member. It should be back on the water later this summer.

Concise - How's this?
 

I thought the point of this thread was to answer the question -

".....wonder how much he really got away with?"

I provided not only my personal experience, but the total amount that can be substantiated, regardless of whether the victims post or not. That takes some 'splainin.

Since I looked up "concise", could we also get a definition for "lighten up" and "highjack". :D :D

Lighten up - what my doctor says whenever I go see him.

Highjack - my Friday night greeting when I get home from a bad week and say "Hi Jack and Coke, lets have a drink".

Doug

Re: Concise - How's this?
 

:D :D :D

BTW -- I wasn't trying to bust your ballz, but if you list a total amount without ID'ing the people who lost the money, and then someone else does the same accidentally including one of the people you aggregated into your total, the results are useless.:)

I considered listing their names, but I don't have their permission and will respect their right to privacy. How about if I list the city / state and an approximate amount.

Kansas City - $11,000
Utah - $20,000
St. Louis - $4,500
Bay Area California - $9,500
Illinois - $5,500
Omaha - $40,000

Again, these are all filed claims in various juristictions. If the owners of these want to chime in and claim their amount then great. If there are other victims not listed, they can certainly add to the list.

Guess I am one of the "lucky" ones that dealt with Bruce.
I only got scammed for less than $1000. Had him work over my heads. Original reason for work was to replace the springs with new ones. Guess he misunderstood. Bruce glass beaded my old ones and reinstalled them and claimed they were new.

I know of a member that had Bruce do a total rebuild of his HP500. The member was with Bruce at the dyno when the motor went south.
Damn lifters! They just don't last as long when they are installed backwards. After motor was repaired, it had less power than before the rebuild. Does that account for a loss????

Legally and officially he owes me $5,198 judgement. Not to mention a full boating season....all the while making boat payments.

Someone get in touch with me (Doug?). My home email has changed and you can send me a PM or email via the pushbutton on my profile. I got a call from someone in Missouri about this guy and they gave me a 1-800 number to call and I called it but said that I cannot call the number from my area. Needless to say I deleted my message and have no contact information.

I would enjoy seeing this guy in jail for a while as he's scammed many OSO people as well as countless others not on the board.

My bet is it's well over 85K but I dunno!

GOOD THREAD !
 

i'm the utah loss, Dean Campbell is my name and doug, you can use it any time you want, i have nothing to hide, i actually want bruce to know where i live, maybe he'll show up on my doorstep someday. LOL

i too have filed theft reports. i have filed with:
1) Riverton UT police department
2) Fenton MO pllice department
3) MO Attorney General's office
and
4) two counts of mail fraud with the U.S. POSTAL SERVICE

i think doug is pretty close on the numbers. i can see what G-Force is getting at though, in not wanting to count the same money twice. one thing that's not common knowledge to people outside the casualty circle, is that we victims have been in direct contact with one another and have banded together, if you will. we all know each other and know how much each other has lost. if a new name pops up it will stand out to us, but it won't be as clear to others. on the other hand i believe doug is correct when he says not every victim will post here, even if they read this thread, some have their own personal reasons for wanting to stay out of the public eye. like doug i will try and respect their wishes as well. i think the way doug listed the money is ok, i don't think that will offend anyone.

i, however, want my name out there, if anyone has a clue where bruce is, even a roomer where he might be, call me, email me, send me a letter if you want to stay anonymous, anything would be appreciated.

Dave1972, i'll call you buddy! any idea who the number was for? sounds pretty important to me, i'll get in touch.

puder when i get to NY i'll be looking for that boat ride you promised. :D

yoru more than welcome to it. My boat is ALMOST running. With soem luck i'll finish up the wiring today.

Well lets add Virginia for $4500.00 Alex.

damn that ads up to $95,000

i am really wondering where it all went.

He's......back...........

I have a home based business with the LLC of "No Coast Custom"
Bruce Dudley
314-608-3589.
[email protected]

Wow--maybe that's good news. He hasn't paid a dime for my judgement that happened many many years ago. Think he's got any money? Any integrity to make things right? I know, I will hold my breath for him to pay me back.

Thanks for posting and spread the word!

The contact information listed above is correct. Anyone that feels the need to contact me can do so. I never responded to any of the statements made in the past, that was a mistake on my part. The list of people that are owed money, mite fan is the only one I have not repaid. DAve1972 I will never pay a dime to and he never paid a dime to me. I have no interest in airing my mistakes on the internet but it seems the information never goes away and the keyboard professionals make sure of that. Contact me directly if you feel the need.

Not my personal fight, but Dave1972 does have some credence to his owed money, A Court Order....

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail...unt=1&offset=0

Seems like that takes the he said, she said out of it... PAY UP!

No personal interest in this but it does look kinda hard to dispute.....:rolleyes:

Might get some good reading here, popcorn and soft drink on standby if required...

RR

Bruce "No Coast"--You know, those court systems are just so skewed and inaccurate right? Let me guess, your story is somehow that YOU are the victim? It seems us "keyboard professionals" will continue to air this laundry until we are all made whole. You won't pay? I won't stop. The court says who owes whom. I'm happy to discuss with anyone--my number is 608.235.0349. Happy life Bruce--hope karma keeps you nice and warm at night. I think I need some popcorn and a soda for this one even after all these years. :popcorn:

This thread was started by a person I don't know and have never dealt with to my knowledge. He clearly knows how to use the search thread and paste in old threads. Dave does have a successful judgement against me, if he is paid he will be paid last. While this is uncomfortable for me, I'm willing to address my past with people that are involved. All of this is the after effects of a tragic accident I had nothing to do with. I could have filed bankruptcy and left everybody hanging. To be clear this is about money. I have always provided the parts specified and machine work described. The valve spring descrepancy posted by US1 Fountain was done by the machine shop I used, I provided a new box of springs to the shop. I picked up the heads in plastic bags and never inspected them. I never was in contact with him or anyone else after he picked them up. Clearly I was responsible for for his heads, I am not nieve enough to deliver a bare set of heads to a customer that is assembling his own engine with used springs when he paid for new. He neglected to add that port work was done and the exhaust crossover was filled at little or no cost in my attempt to provide a quality product. The same machine shop later went out of business, sold my property and customers property without their permission or knowledge. I have always tried to provide the best possible product, I have made mistakes and corrected them. I certainly know how to install roller lifters, when I am distracted rushed and trying to over achieve I made a mistake. All lifters and the camshaft was replaced as corrective action.

Yep, it's definitely after labor day on OSO....

:party-smiley-004:

This thread was started in 2003 and the thread starter is deceased.

We have met and I know some people who did some business with you. On OSO, you played the big man on campus and made lots of promises that you couldn't keep. You had a small shop and were pretty much a one man show in a small rented building in industrial area. You made promises, then ran behind on nearly everything. I believe you originally had good intentions, but you didn't have the assets to cover your mistakes. Like a new Imco drive that you broke before the boat got wet. So you did the typical marine business model and took more deposits and parts to pay off your past mistakes.

So are you saying that you 100% reimbursed Mike from Omaha for the engines and new parts he sent you???? Because I don't think so.

So, after 13 years, you are still making excuses instead of payments of any kind to these people?

Actually you were in contact with me after I picked the heads up....when I returned with the assembled motor 2 weeks later when my brother, myself and you, all went to the machine shop and dynoed the motor. (Someone that is search davy can do a search here and see where you dynoed my motor after you did the head work. This would just verify my post and discredit yours)

And the port work....this was something you offered to do for free. A very nice gesture on your part. I did not ask for it. I believe you called it an 'Xmas gift'. Only work you were requested to do was resurface, valve job, new springs, and setup. I lost several mph after the head work.

EDITED.....,
I decided to take the high road and went back and deleted the whole experience, lies and poor workmanship I recieved from you and just left up the cliff note version of the areas that were in response to your above quote. You should probably thank me for doing so.


Good Luck Bruce.

Out of curiosity, why would he be paid last? Are there 50 others in front of him waiting for their money?

I've never met Dave or yourself, just thought the statement odd and brash. Brash enough to justify an explanation.

In your reply you hinted at doing the right thing and being an overall good person in heart. One would think if this was the case following a court order would be a priority. By not following a court order wouldn't you be in violation of the court and also be going against the self described "good person" persona you are trying to portray?

Seems contradictory to me.

Buck

Mike from Omaha's engines and parts were delivered to peak performance, a machine shop when I closed my shop. I put him in contact with the owner and was present when they talked on the phone. My intent was to give him an option for completing the work on his engines. I had no facility and worked there for a while to complete other projects of mine. I finished what I was working on and left there. His engines and parts were there when I left. I know he was aware of where his engines were and in contact with them.

I wonder how a debtors exam would go now. Seems he has some capital from somewhere?