I need some help! Did I get screwed or is this a simple case of caviot emptur?
 

Well, I brought the boat to a reputable fiberglass technician this evening. Upon his thorough inspection he showed me that in fact we did NOT hit anything to put the hole in the bottom this weekend at the Lake Champlain Mik Run. Infact, the bottom was patched before I bought it. IRONICALLY, today, I get a call from the guy I bought the boat from in 1999 saying he is coming to Lake George this weekend and wants to get together. He asks how the boat is running and I tell him about Saturday and he asks if it is the port sponson because they had patched it once. When they patched it they used paint not gel and I could not really tell until the glass guy showed me what to look for. I guess because it is in a preacarious part of the bottom it is more difficult to see. So here is my dilemna. Do I go back to the seller and request he participate in the repair costs or do I suck it up as I bought it used or do I have to go through all the nonsense of a law suit for mis-representation as his reply constitues a verbal contract with a statute of limitations that lasts 6 years? The hole in the bottom is no big deal. That is part of the sport and I can easily accept it. What really burns my arse is he blatantly LIED when I SPECIFICALLY ASKED if this had occurred! I guess 1999 was not my year. I appreciate your thoughts and input.

Shane:

Do you still need my guy?

T2x

its water under the bridge....and it was used...

Alright, here it is from a lawyer.......it wont be worth the aggravation or $$. Caveat emptor (the correct spelling) is somewhat controlling here but if you asked and he lied then you may have a legit cause. Truth is it will be better on your state of mind and your wallet to just let it ride.

I agree with Slingslot.

Rich,

Yes, please. This guy is going to grind it tomorrow and let me know what I am up against as a favor to a mutual friend. Is your buddy willing to do it? I did not hear from you today so I thought maybe he wasn't up for it. If he is, I would love to speak with him. Can you forward his info to me or call me tomorrow? I can call you as soon as I hear in the morning as to what it needs. What is best? I just wanted to have it looked at by someone that knows much more than I and this opportunity came as a favor as the guy said to stop by this evening as he would stay late.

Thanks Rich.

I think you guys are right. I don't know if I can handle yet another legal battle and the frustration it would cause is probably not even close to worth it!

:D :D :D LMAO catmando:D :D :D LMAO!

he did admit to it though

I'd ask but I wouldn't press it, sitting in his seat after six years I don't know were I would be. And god no lawsuit why make your attorney's boat faster or bigger

Didn't you mean Holiday Inn Express???:p ;)

yeah but that was 4 years after the fact.

ain't that the truth?:rolleyes: :(

Let it go and let Fred take a look at the repairs. He may have other ideas for ways to sink money into the hole. God knows how simple repairs and improvements turn into major overhauls with him!! :D

Make sure it's fixed soon, since I plan to drive it in the VERY NEAR future.

I picked ask but do not push it. Lets put it this way. How many cars are sold each day that have been in accidents. Hell even BRAND NEW cars have parts replaced on them and repairs done all the time. The dealers will never tell you about them so...... I am sure that there will be lots of things about my boat that I will not remember to tell the buyer. Some times you just forget, it could have been a honest mistake. If you should be pissed at anyone you should be pissed at the person that did the shoddy repair. There is no reason for the repair to not be as stong as the rest of the boat. :( Make sure your new guy knows what he is doing and you will be fine.

Jon

Hey Shane..sorry bout your troubles. I agree wit da boyz. It cant hurt to bring it up if you see the guy and see if he offers some $$$ assistance to have it fixed.

Otherwise let it go..

See ya soon

I think its been too long. Maybe if you had just bought it, but I cant even remember 1999.

Re: I need some help! Did I get screwed or is this a simple case of caviot emptur?
 

when and what did you ask him that he lied to you?? i'm not understanding the lying part.

either way....i dont think it's worth it to press the issue

Hey Yo! Shane, you needs me to send up some friends I got in Saratoga Springs? I gots to get them out of the track dough, so it may take a while. Dees guys specialize in fitting dem concrete shoes. You need 'em you gimme a call!!:mad: ;) :D

Shane, I got burned on my first boat, I bought it not knowing that the boat had been repaired and eventually the bottom caved in and the boat was worthless, I was really dissapointed because it was my first boat and I did not have it that long when it happened, I chalked it up as live and learn and hoped the guy that sold it to me would someday get his. It turned out that it is happening, the guy who sold it to me is the guy that got taken by hawk power that is always crying about it on this site. I however would never do that to someone so I sold the boat to a dealer for $700 and they knew exactly what was wrong with the boat because I told them. I have too much integrity and could not live with it on my concious to stick someone like that. so i guess the moral of my story is you should let it go because you won't win, but you can hope that someday he will get what he deserves. But you have to admit you beat that thing for years, that was one hell of a repair job.

I'd have that glass guy look over the rest real close.

I think it is too late. Have a good look at the bottom while it is at the glass shop. Good luck!

I would get the boat fixed and invite him down. When he get's there explain that he needs to pay for it ALL. If he disagrees UNLOAD ON HIS ASS. Keep on firing on him until he agrees or until you or an accomplice are able to run his pockets.

DISCLAIMER: This is just exactly what I would do and I am not responsible for other peoples actions:eek:

OG:cool:

:D :D :D

Hi,,nothing to add to this question here.. but seen you was from NSB area You ever dine at the Clancy's Resturant there ?

Shane


Just move-on

Re: Re: I need some help! Did I get screwed or is this a simple case of caviot emptur?
 

I think I stated in my original post but maybe not. WhenI went to buy the boat, my friend Kris and I asked him several times if the boat was ever damaged and repaired. He said no, not ever. Then IRONICALLY he calls me yesterday out of the clear blue to see if I am going to be around this weekend as he will be in Lake George and wanted to get together. We chatted and he asked how the boat was. I told him about the weekend and he said that they had to fix the port sponson when he owned it. So the deal is that when I originally met him he said it had never been repaired, but yesterday he said it had. He seemed like a real honest guy and I had no reason to doubt him. I just wish he would have been forthright from the beginning and I would have been fully aware of what I was getting that is all.

No, but that is sure funny as hell. I think the guy I bought it from has far more scruples than that. I still cannot think that the guy I bought it from is that type of guy. Although I only met him that day, I really trusted him. He called several times to see how it was running and I called him several times with questions. There is something in my gut telling me that this was melicious on his part. However, it is very upsetting that I specifically asked and was told it was never repaired. From everything I have been told about the gentleman looking at it this morning and from spending an hour with him last night, he seems extremely thorough and knowledgable, but then again, what the hell do I know about fiberglass?

T2x,

Can you PM me or call me with your buddies info? Also, Kristen and I really would like to speak with and see Doreen this week as we have more information on Zoe and I really would like her professional opinion. That pup is my baby and I want to see her healthy soon!:(

Not fur dis guy, but if dey wants to make a trip to Missouri (sp?), or Kansas, or California or where ever the other clown is, den weez can talk. I will even gets dem clubhouse seat at da track to.:D

How recent was the sale? How recent was the repair? If it's really close, then he might help you out. If you've had the boat for a while, then suck it up. Either way, the boat was still a private party sale and was in a as-is condition, so the seller really has no obligation to you.

Let it go, bring it up and have him buy you dinner. To much time has passed.

Shane, lets not forget that you have run that boat in pretty snotty water at relatively high speeds and everything has been fine for 4 years. So, just get it fixed so I can drive it around and pound on it for you!!! :D

Shane, only because you specifically asked" was the boat ever repaired" , would I even bring up the question to the previous owner. I would simply ask him what he thinks the fair thing would be since he did tell you it had never been repaired. If it's $2000.00 to fix it ask him what you should do?? He may just be a stand up guy and offer you half.Otto

S U R V E Y!

it sucks but i'd have to go with slingshot, water under the bridge.

I had cavier one time is that like caviot emptur, or caviat empture I even drove in a chevy one time

The advice that D-hlaw gave is on the money.

My advice would be to suck it up and chalk it up to one of life`s experiences. It`s been several years and it sounds as if you`ve gotten plenty of hard use from the boat. We don`t need any more lawsuits in this world either!

What made the repair break? Was it fixed with bondo or something?