Hyper.. THINK ABOUT IT
 

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you ARE going to kill someone

Oh geeze....thats sad

Yes it is, but it might make an invincible youngster think.

I think Hyper needs a wake up call !!.......I hope it is not fatal when it comes & i hope he is alone in the car !!!

Not beating on ya Hyper ! Just dont want to see this happen to you !

WOW, that is a tragic story. I think stories like that will change people. Very sad especially for the GF.

Yes, I am done doing stupid stuff on the roads. Trails is closed now :(

Hyper,

Its obvious that you have alot of people here that care about you. I hope that you think about this. If something were to happen to you because you did something stupid, not only will you be hurting yourself, you will have hurt those who love you, your family and friends.

One of my best friends lost her boy in 92, he was 22 years old, he was racing and lost control of his car. The car blew up when it crashed burning him and his best friend beyond recognition.

My girlfriend has never been the same since, her life was changed and her heart is empty. I don't think you would want to hurt your mom like my friend has been hurt.

I know you don't know me, but I'm a mom and if I can do anything to make a difference and make you think.....then thats all that matters.

Ops you posted the same time as me Hyper!

OH and......Same with the trails!!!!! Be careful!!!!

Man that is a sad story but more for the girlfriend in the passenger seat, although I am sure it was not her first time "racing" as well. We have a street behind my shop that the kids like to come down and race on. It is straite line and long and there is a hill in the middle. I was headed to my shop a couple nights ago and over the hill comes two cars at warp speed to see me in my F350. Lucky for all of us they were able to miss me but it seemed probably closer then it was at the time.

The problem is this "Kory was known around town as one of the best drivers around and the kids all looked up to him". Did Kory ever take a profesional driving/racing class like Puder went out and did? If you want to race take a class, rent a REAL race car not some POS Camero SS and race it on a RACE TRACK with medical teams and race helmet and the whole 9. There is a reason that those guys are there.

Jon

Oh ya and on a race track you do not get a ticket for going to fast. If you are the fastest you get a award!!! :D:D

National Trail Drag way.

Are there any classes I can take while being a minor? I havent found any?

Oh LOL I thought you meant ATV trails.

Same with drag strips! BE careful!

Troutly, my brother is a retired policeman, you guys see some bad wrecks. Thank god we have people like you who deal with these kinda terrible things. I personally couldn't do it.

I used to street race a fair amount and I had my share of close calls. But I decided to stop because it wasn't worth it. I will however spend a good amount of time at the dragstrip once I do get another fast car. Boat racing open canopy is very dangerous too and your chances of hurting another team are pretty good. Street/drag racing goes back in my family for years, my Uncle and Dad did it all the time. Things were different back then though and the streets were much less crowded. I agree street racing is bad, but I've seen a lot of paramedics preach that and then have them fly by me at 60 in a 45 in their personal vehicles. Same with cops.

Another thing, I've seen more accidents caused by Chevy Tahoe drivin moms (no offence) yackin on their cell phones who run slam into a parked car. It's funny how the Authobahn has fewer accidents overall than the US highway system, but yet you can break 200mph on Authobahn.

Go race go carts or Junior dragster.

I am 33 now and have been riding since I was 3 and racing at 5. I have raced everything with wheels on it and crashed, but I have always had good safety gear on. One collar bone and one ACL tear I just did on my YZ450 aint bad for 30 years of racing and crashing. And I have had some big get off's on my Superbike two in one weekend both well over 125 mph and all it did was make me a little sore and drain my bank account to fix the bike.

I had my share of the "stop light grand prix" and I was lucky I never crashed or made anybody crash or lost any friends but it would have happened if we all didn't go racing at the track's, now after doing it as a pro I dont even feel the need to do it on the street. Plus once you and your buddies get racing licenses your can rent a track all to yourselves and do in safe.

I crashed street racing once, no injuries, but it was a wake up call. The bragging rights are better at the drag strip anyway Tommy, the honeys will be more impressed by tropheys and triple digit trap speeds than by a street race. Sets you on a level above the "kids" racing on the street.

Troutly...do you ever forsee the highway system raising the speed limits to a uniform 70 or 75 mph, or is there just too much congestion these days as compared to the 50s - 60s when the speed limits were 75. I know there are areas where the limits have been raised, but it's not everywhere.

I called mid ohio today, have 2 minor race classes. Asking for them for christmas.

Get into bike racing Hyper, slow guys on nice bikes are still slow, fast guys on all most any race bike are still fast. You don't have to have a ton of cash to race and win on bikes although it helps. Bike's are cheaper than cars to race. Let me know if you need any help with getting a bike or setting one up. How big are you ?

I have been a firefighter and auto extrication tech for over 10 years. I have seen many aweful things happen. Keep racing to teh race course! Just last night my best friends brother and cousin were in an accident. Not going to fast either. They hit a deer and his cousin died and brother is in serious condition.:(

You still get to Drag Race it's just 40 people out there and you get to see who has the guts to stay on the gas the longest before you brake for turn one.

I dont think I have the self control to see 18 if I owned a bike. I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to buy a bike when he buys one, knowing us, we would get used to doing 120+ all the time.

Shane, sorry to hear about your friends. I, like troutly and you, have seen more than my fair share of accidents with severe injuries and deaths. Unfortunately, this will continue as too many people just dont think when they drive. It does not matter if they are goin fast or slow. Racing should stay on a controlled track. It does not mean that it is by any means safe, but you do not have to worry about the uncontrollable variable of other people pulling out in front of you like on the street. Plus there are safety people already on standby if something does go wrong. So, everybody, be safe out there.

Don't ride it on the street just the track.

I dont have the self control.

Shane, sorry to hear that. Deer always pop up in the wrong places. I truly believe those deer whisles on the front of a car do work.

In 17 years of being a paramedic I have acquired a large photo album of memories of kids that have died senselessly. I only wish I could some how transfer the photos in my memory to every fast driving kid in the world. My prayers go out to the families.

Tommy your missing the point of the RACE BIKE. The first thing you do is take all the stock bodywork off, lights,mirrors,fan horn, and all the other street stuff. Put on race bodywork, tire's,steering damper and other race stuff. It will not be street legal at all, instant cop magnet if you run it on the street. It will be just for the track like your boat is just for the water. Plus at the track they wont let you go out in shorts and t-shirt so you will always be dressed for the worst. Witch is how I have never had road rash in all the crashes I have had.

Sad story. I don't really see how he lost control on that road, but I guess the point is that he and another are dead.

Hyper,
I've been racing for years. I'd highly suggest you take a serious look at cart racing. Most of todays best racers all started in carts. They are cheap to buy or rent, competition is very tight, and THEY ARE FUN!!! Try carts first, you love them. Despite how childish they look, adults even get hooked on them. Bang for the buck you cant beat carts. I still try to get into a cart any chance I get. After a little seat time, look into taking a professional racing class. I've taken many and I'd highly recommend Skip Barber's Pro series racing class. This is a real class act. Not only do do get great instruction in a verity of cars (formula cars are the cats ass!), but you also get your license upon completion. It's not cheap, but you cant put a price on what you'll gain from this class. After you've had some good instruction join a club of some type at your local road racing track. You'll move up through the ranks with seat time. Contact the track and get a copy of their schedule for next season. See what clubs have the most track days and see about joining them. Many of these clubs have some type of "taste of the track" program that places potential new drivers in a car with an instructor for a few laps. I've never had a newbee in the car that didn't get hooked after I had them on the track. I've found PCA (Porsche Club of America) has about the best program for grooming racers and getting track time. They offer "Drivers Ed" events at most tracks thoughout the year. They also have a Club Racing program that's top notch. Like I said , may organizations offer similar evens (BWM, SCCA, NASA...) and the key to becoming a great road racer is instruction, seat time, and more seat time. I cant stress enough how valuable these two things are to becoming a great driver. When I was younger I was always racing around on the streets. After my first day of instructed driving at Lime Rock Park I realized how stupid racing on the street is. Not only is it dangerous, but until you get on one of these road racing tracks you'll have no idea how far you can truly and safely test the limits of yourself and your car. The limits are so much higher on a track than you would ever think possible. The best tracks not only offer a verity of turns , but also elevation changes. I've driven dozens on tracks and Watkins Glen is my favorite for these reasons.

BTW, you'll quickly find that the fastest street cars are no match for a POS track car. A $200,000 Ferrari fresh off the showroom floor cant come close to keeping up with $12,000 944 turbo setup for road racing! I see guys in Neon track cars lapping basically stock Corvettes all the time. I always get a kick out of the newbees at these clubs that show up with there big dollar street cars. It's so funny to see them turning times at the end of the day that are FAR slower then the veteran drivers driving little four cylinder cars. :D

Now go jump in a cart! You'll love it. ;)

I'd like to eventually get a Corvette or similar and run on the track. I got out of street racing because the risk isn't worth it, my g/f nagged at me about it, and the general car theme today is screwed up in my mind. I got tired of 4 door Acuras with chrome rims doing 120mph down the main street in town. I still average 10 over when I'm normally driving and more than that on the freeway, but I don't do anything extreme. I like fast boats now anyways. I'll definetely break at least 150 on water and 200MPH if I can ever afford a Callan boat.

Well, everyone was right, something did happen last night. I will be getting a lawyer, trying to get everything reduced. But NEED to sell my truck, I figure at 18, everything is wiped off, insurance wont check my record if I dont have insurance. No felonys, no one was killed, no property damage.

What happened?

Way to many stupid things. I am probably looking at a suspension of 6 mos or until I am 18.

Was it a DWI?

If MOST people would know the rules of the Road, we would not have any problems.


KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TOO PASS


I wish cops would enforce this law.

Or impeding the flow of traffic.

emotion, I am the same way, use signals, and keep to the right.

st31, what if it was, what would eeryone reccomend?

Not saying it is.

Get a good lawyer. Interview them. Ask about prior cases. Get references. Its hard to find a good one.

I work as a consultant for a large German automaker, and I deal with these issues all the time.

Some German data.

Less that 7000 people died in a car last year. Statistically, you are as likely of having a deadly accident in a car as at home or during sports (amazing, but true ...)

The majority of accidents with injured or dead happen in cities (65%). Rural highways: 29%. Autobahn: 7%

The overall trend of fatal accidents is way down despite record car density. Many reasons, most of all technology: Safer cars, airbags, ABS, EDS etc. Also harsh enforcement of DUI

But, fatalities amongst young people who just received their drivers license way up. Big problem. Traffic education has no measurable effect. Making the drivers license harder and harder had none either.

Most kids who drive fast already, are going to drive fast anyway. Pushing the license back to 18 wont do anything either in my opinion. Yes I am sure fatalities are higher for drivers 16, 17 than 18, 19, but then again, 2 more years of experience. Pushing the age back is just going to make kids more egar to drive fast.

Tommy,

What happened? I have been off the board lately. Did you get a bike? BMW? What sparked this post? Hope you survived whatever happened o.k. Channel all this energy to boats man!!! Sounds like you have the support from the parents for a marine career...don't jeopardize that. PM me if you don't want it public.


Matt