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Waterfoul 12-07-2003 06:32 PM

The BCS sucks!!!
 
So, when Michigan (#4 BCS) beats USC (#1 AP) in the Rose Bowl, does that make The Blue national champions?????

The BCS does not work.

h2owarrior 12-07-2003 07:21 PM

I don't know if I would goes as far as to say it sucks. It is much better than what we had before.

If they really wanted to do it right, they would have playoffs or a tournament similar to pro football or NCAA basketball.

Allan4 12-07-2003 07:28 PM

It is a mess....you are right guys. USC got SCREWED though...#1 in both polls yet they do not get a shot at the mythical National Title.

I don't get it...:( :(

Plus, the Bengals lost today..:(

Reddog 12-07-2003 09:06 PM

To be honest, I'm a TN Vol fan and by the BCS rankings we are really over rated but then if you believe them, we have been screwed by the bowl selection process - # 8 BCS, 7 Coaches, 6 AP - and are going to the lowely Peach Bowl. Oh well, we will face Clemson which really should be a good match up.

Just would have liked to face FSU to make it a sweep in Florida this year:D

Reckless32 12-07-2003 09:10 PM

Playoffs. That's the only way. The whole bowl concept is lame. Besides, Oklahoma is the complete package and won't be beat no matter who they play...

OldSchool 12-07-2003 09:19 PM


Originally posted by Reckless288
Playoffs. That's the only way. The whole bowl concept is lame. Besides, Oklahoma is the complete package and won't be beat no matter who they play...

Maybe they should play Kansas St. again.:D :D :p

CIGAR 12-07-2003 09:48 PM

they wouldn't have a chance against sc

Holy Smokes 12-07-2003 11:33 PM


Originally posted by Reckless288
Playoffs. That's the only way. The whole bowl concept is lame. Besides, Oklahoma is the complete package and won't be beat no matter who they play...

Obviously, Oklahoma can and DID get beat by my K-State Wildcats!!! I mean beat bad; over 500 yards of offense and a final score of 35 - 7. Could have been 42 easy.

I was at the game and didn't see squat from OU. I was expecting a loss and hoped for a humble showing. In turn we got the biggest win in our somewhat meager football history.

Time to pack for Tempe. Bring on the Buckeye's

Clay Washington 12-08-2003 07:38 AM


Originally posted by Reddog
To be honest, I'm a TN Vol fan and by the BCS rankings we are really over rated but then if you believe them, we have been screwed by the bowl selection process - # 8 BCS, 7 Coaches, 6 AP - and are going to the lowely Peach Bowl. Oh well, we will face Clemson which really should be a good match up.

Just would have liked to face FSU to make it a sweep in Florida this year:D

I grew up in Knoxville and went to UT. At least the Vols get to play on January 1st! :D

BLee 12-08-2003 08:51 AM

Losses early in the season vs. losses late in the season are the real issue. If you want no controversy, don't lose. If you do lose though, you are subject to whatever the system gives you.

Of the 3 one loss teams, one was going to get shafted. LSU and USC took their free loss early, while Oklahoma took theirs late when they knew it didn't matter. Oklahoma dominated stronger teams than either of the other two. LSU played a tougher schedule than USC by a fraction, but still tougher.

Deciding the national championship is the culmination of an entire season, not one game. Like it or not, on paper the 2 best teams in the country are playing for the title. All three were worthy but only 2 can play.

The AP and Coaches polls are relevant, but biased because of the human aspect.

I don't exactly agree with either poll, but without the BCS we would have TCU with one loss (and an extremely weak schedule) taking a bowl spot from far better teams. Imagine the crying you would hear had that happened.

USC needs to suck it up and worry about Michigan. They are damn good and will stomp USC if they are still whining about the Sugar bowl come game day. It will also validate the BCS' selections, and USC doesn't want that.

WARPARTY36 12-08-2003 09:42 AM


Originally posted by KC Baja
Obviously, Oklahoma can and DID get beat by my K-State Wildcats!!! I mean beat bad; over 500 yards of offense and a final score of 35 - 7. Could have been 42 easy.

I was at the game and didn't see squat from OU. I was expecting a loss and hoped for a humble showing. In turn we got the biggest win in our somewhat meager football history.

Time to pack for Tempe. Bring on the Buckeye's

I was also at the game, and OU might as well have stayed home. K-state kicked ass because they had nothing to lose, but we knew we had nothing to lose also. We got our asses handed to us! Hopefully New Orleans will be a better game.

Waterfoul 12-08-2003 03:54 PM

Go Blue

'Foul,
U of M class of 1990
Marching Band 1987-1990
Outback Bowl Champs 1988
Rose Bowl Champs 1989
Rose Bowl runner up 1990

At least I got to go to a couple of good bowl games. Beat Alabama in 88, lost to USC in 89, beat USC in 90

Waterfoul 12-08-2003 03:55 PM

Oh yeah, and WHEN Michigan beats USC, are we then No. 1???

The BCS sucks.

bajabob38 12-08-2003 04:04 PM

The two best teams should play each other, they are


Miami and Oklahoma.

Waterfoul 12-08-2003 04:18 PM

Miami and Oklahoma? Are you High Bob???? The two best teams are playing each other, in the Rose Bowl. :D

Go Blue.

The BCS sucks.

jmeng 12-08-2003 06:16 PM


Originally posted by bajabob38
The two best teams should play each other, they are


Miami and Oklahoma.

I've watched 4 or 5 Miami games this year and they didn't impress me at all. Not a good year for them at all. I don't think there even close to LSU, OU, USC, or Michigan.

X-Rated30 12-08-2003 06:34 PM


Originally posted by jmeng
I've watched 4 or 5 Miami games this year and they didn't impress me at all. Not a good year for them at all. I don't think there even close to LSU, OU, USC, or Michigan.
You left out the GO TIGERS!!!!! part.

97BossHammer 12-08-2003 06:37 PM

LSU will roll, no doubt about it.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

Waterfoul 12-08-2003 07:12 PM

Go Blue

Twin screws 12-08-2003 07:44 PM

The BCS does suck. They had Ga over rated all year, as much as I wish they could play with those four teams. Congrats to LSU, they put it on us. All four teams deserve to be playing for the national championship, however that is impossible. I think that Oklahoma is going to have there hands full, however I'm not saying that LSU is going to win the game, I'm just saying it is going to be good. USC is going to have there hands full as well. Four great teams, two great games, just be happy you are there guys, you could be like the Bulldogs and going to a nothing bowl.

h2owarrior 12-08-2003 08:59 PM


Originally posted by Waterfoul
Go Blue
Enough with the "Go Blue" crap. :eek: No matter what Michigan does they will not:eek: Yes that's right, not be number 1:D :D

Didn't they loose a game this year to a team not even in the top 10:eek: Say it isn't so.........:D :D

jmeng 12-08-2003 09:03 PM


Originally posted by KaamaScarab30
You left out the GO TIGERS!!!!! part.
I was trying to sound somewhat impartial. GEAUX TIGERS

Bought my Sugar Bowl tickets today. Cost a small fortune but I'll be there.:D

Reckless32 12-08-2003 10:50 PM

Geesh did I stick my foot in my mouth or what?! I posted that without even knowing OK lost until late today! I paid the college games no mind this weekend after getting caught up in a party Saturday for Army/Navy (annual tradition with me).
Oh well, despite the surprising loss (if they played again tomorrow the score would be reversed) I would give Oklahoma the odds against whomever in the big one because they are the best this year. But I agree, BCS is flawed; AP is flawed worse (purely subjective); and playoffs are long overdue and the only fair way. This kind of controversy happens every year....

SoCalOffshore 12-08-2003 10:59 PM

Michigan doesn't have a chance in hell. We will talk more on Jan 2nd.

PatriYacht 12-09-2003 05:57 AM

When Michigan beats USC we'll be NO.1 kinda, sorta.....

jmeng 12-09-2003 09:02 AM


Originally posted by PatriYacht
When Michigan beats USC we'll be NO.1 kinda, sorta.....
No, you'll probably be #2, possibly #3.

bajabob38 12-09-2003 09:21 AM


Originally posted by Waterfoul
Go Blue


Hey foul, One time in band camp:D

X-Rated30 12-09-2003 03:12 PM

Actually had time to take a good look at USC's opponents for the season. Anyone or any system that says USC's strength of schedule is even close to the caliber of the teams LSU had to beat is deluded.


GO TIGERS!!!

X-Rated30 12-09-2003 03:33 PM

I can't... I'm a deadbeat.:drool:

Waterfoul 12-09-2003 03:54 PM

I'm a deadbeat too. A broke deadbeat. And I've never been a gambler.

But,

Go Blue

BLee 12-15-2003 02:53 PM

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X-Rated30 12-15-2003 04:42 PM

Cigracer -- Too funny!!!:D :D :D

Waterfoul 12-15-2003 05:20 PM

Oh yeah!! Cigracer, you rock!!!

phastang 12-15-2003 06:18 PM

Hey Cigracer, could you e-mail those pics to me in full size. I gotta send these to all myb LSU Alum.
Thanks,
Ty

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ST31 12-15-2003 06:37 PM

I agree the BCS sucks, but so does the Hiesman decision. I'm sure that I will get all kinds of feed back on this, but it is hard to believe that Texas Tech's quaterback was not even in the final running after breaking the all time NCAA record. Give me a break. Everything is to dam polictal.

"Symons set the NCAA single-season mark with 5,336 passing yards, breaking the former record of 5,188, set by former BYU quarterback Ty Detmer in 1990. Symons also leads the nation in nearly every passing and total offense category, including touchdowns passes (48), passing yards per game (444.7) and total offense yards per game (456.3). He also turned in the third-best single-game passing performance in NCAA history with 661 yards in a come-from-behind win at Mississippi earlier in the season.

In addition to his single-season passing record, Symons also set five other NCAA records in single-season total offense yards (5,476), consecutive games of 400-plus yards of total offense (9), most passing yards over four-consecutive games (2,239), most total offense yards over three-consecutive games (1,799) and most total offense yards over four-consecutive games (2,328)."

http://texastech.ocsn.com/sports/m-f...120503aaa.html

Waterfoul 12-15-2003 06:51 PM

What was Tech's record this year???

ST31 12-15-2003 07:01 PM

7-5, but look the scores of some of the toughest games. If we had only had a defense as strong as the offense.......


August 30 SMU W 58-10 1-0
September 6 New Mexico W 42-28 2-0
September 20 at N.C. State L 49-21 2-1
September 27 at No. 18 Mississippi W 49-45 3-1
October 4 Texas A&M W 59-28 4-1
October 11 Iowa State W 52-21 5-1
October 18 at No. 22 Oklahoma State L 51-49 5-2
October 25 at Missouri L 62-31 5-3
November 1 Colorado W 26-21 6-3
November 8 at Baylor W 62-14 7-3
November 15 at No. 5 Texas L 43-40 7-4
November 22 No. 3 Oklahoma L 56-25 7-5

bayou outlaw 12-15-2003 07:15 PM

We know who played the toughest schedules: Oklahoma and LSU. We know who won the most games:Oklahoma and LSU. (Too bad the PAC 10 does not have a conference championship game). Who had the worst loss? Oklahoma lost to K State 35-7 on a neutral field. K-State's schedule was ranked 10th in the country, finished 11-3, ranked 10th in the BCS and in the top ten in each poll. LSU lost at home to Fla. 19-7. Fla. had the 5th toughest schedule in the country, finished 8-4, 15th in BCS and 17th in each poll. USC lost at Cal. 34-31 in three ot's. Cal's schedule was weaker than K-State's and Fla.'s, finished 7-6 and UNRANKED. LSU played four games against teams now in January bowls. Oklahoma played two. USC played NONE. The Sugar Bowl is the national championship game. GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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