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LapseofReason 02-13-2009 07:21 AM

And thats about 1/100th of good reading about Ben, take a look at how he tried to break out of prison. He is a real piece of work to put it nice.

mmareno 02-13-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by LapseofReason (Post 2799357)
And thats about 1/100th of good reading about Ben, take a look at how he tried to break out of prison. He is a real piece of work to put it nice.

LMAO.... Some people just crack me up... Too Funny..

I read enough.... No more needs to be said!!!

klaw 02-13-2009 09:40 AM

yes lets just send another helicopter to get him out maybe this time it wont crash or maybe it will and we can all be done with him

mmareno 02-13-2009 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by klaw (Post 2799458)
yes lets just send another helicopter to get him out maybe this time it wont crash or maybe it will and we can all be done with him

See now I got to google more... You talking helicopters and escape now..

Curiousity has me.....
sorry at the time of all of this I was 18-20.. Not worried about people like him.. I had one thing and ONE thing only on my mind!!!!!!

KANTSTAYAWAY 02-13-2009 10:44 AM

packinair was the chopper pilot ,and troutly rode along as security . of course they hit the wrong prison, now one of them is stuck inside

Big Time 02-13-2009 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by klaw (Post 2799458)
yes lets just send another helicopter to get him out maybe this time it wont crash or maybe it will and we can all be done with him


I remember my dad tellling me abou that story. Rumor also has it that just to transport him from jail to the court house they would pretty much shut down the route, add extra security, check for bombs along the way, etc...crazy stuff.

klaw 02-13-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by mmareno (Post 2799494)
See now I got to google more... You talking helicopters and escape now..

Curiousity has me.....
sorry at the time of all of this I was 18-20.. Not worried about people like him.. I had one thing and ONE thing only on my mind!!!!!!


yes you do
He was in jail copter landed in proson yard to try and break him out crashed and he broke leg

BLee 02-13-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by mmareno (Post 2799343)
Sorry... Didn't mean to sound rude... I just don't know the name... I haven't been around enough I guess.. and I wasn't trying to start another long thread over he said she said BullSh*t..


Not a prob! :drink: Ben Kramer is just a VERY well known figure in the powerboat world, so your aggressive reply was a little surprising.

Ben Kramer is a former World/National Champion boat racer, as well as a founder and former owner of the original Apache Powerboats. He was also involved in the drug trade, and is thought by some to have had Don Aronow killed. He's currently serving life without parol. He's the topic of frequent debates over Aronow's murder, and the history of Apache boats and racing team.

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mmareno 02-13-2009 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 2799672)
Not a prob! :drink: Ben Kramer is just a VERY well known figure in the powerboat world, so your aggressive reply was a little surprising.

Ben Kramer is a former World/National Champion boat racer, as well as a founder and former owner of the original Apache Powerboats. He was also involved in the drug trade, and is thought by some to have had Don Aronow killed. He's currently serving life without parol. He's the topic of frequent debates over Aronow's murder, and the history of Apache boats and racing team.

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Wow. I have googled this man and found about 400,000 stories.. I will read some tonight... I have never heard of him but was not into the powerboats until Mid 90's..
Unbelievable stories i have read so far.... I mean WOW!!

Thanks

De Stroper 02-13-2009 03:52 PM

How does it come that everyone is against him?

thx


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