Gas shortages expected, Esp. FL.
 

Uh-oh...:eek:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...asprices_x.htm

I can't believe in this day and age, that our govt, can allow this kind of $hit to keep goin on. Just goes to show how our govt is F'n us ALL the time.
This is just one more example of why I'm glad to hear when one of US cheats the F'n govt and screws them back!!!
HORRAY FOR US!!! and F them.

That's BS!

Ok, so there's a backlog of oil tankers trying to off load, the oil companies are foreseeing the spring/summer increase in consumption but they can't stockpile crude because of the backlog at the ports, so they decide to increase prices in hopes it'll lower the demand and give them time to offload.
I understand their logic.
But since there isn't really a shortage and the cost to refine/distribute the product hasn't risen, all this will really do is raise profits. Price gouging.
The oil producing countries and the refining companies have the world by the cajones. They know that nothing moves without oil.

I hate big corporations!

takes two weeks to go from 1.50 to 2.00 bucks and the whole winter to go from 2.00 to 1.75.. :mad: :mad:

Yeah Right!!!
 

Gas has just hit $2 a gallon here in Phoenix!!! Get ready for $3 a gallon this summer...

Gas is 1.42 here for 87 and 165 for 93. Diesel is 1.32. So far lets see what happens next week.

Bastages:hothead: Crock of chit , just to raise prices. Just watch quarterly profit reports of oil companies.

What worries me MORE is good ol' Alan Greenspans latest idea:hothead: :hothead: :hothead: Cut OUR social security. I think it's about time that old f' retires.His fricken pension is probably more that I make working :hothead: :hothead:

Can you start shipping it to me for that price? Prices are way higher in New England!:rolleyes:

Gas in NY hasn't been below 1.75 for regular and 1.90 something for super since the summer when it was 1.89 and 2.05.. Yet when I was in Jersey last week it was like 1.43 and 1.59,, it's like 6 bucks cheaper to fill up in jersey..

I have no problem with that at all, as long as those fu@ks give me every penny I've put into the system for all these years!!! Hell, I WISH I could control that money... I know I'd be getting a lot more than a $500 dollar check every month when I retire!!!:hothead: :hothead: :hothead:

Oil companies are nothing but lying fu*ks.....

Don't hold your breath... :rolleyes:

Off Greenspan! That crazy old coot is doing no good for our nation. :mad:


This oil company dilema is ridiculous. A minute shipping problem should not cause shortages and price jumps like this. So much for advanced planning, I guess. :rolleyes:

Who the hell gave him that job anyway:confused:

I'd really like to rap him up side da head a few time to see if anybody's home:mad:

Big Oil Companies with deep pockets in Washington. I say bring back Teddy Roosevelt. He'd have those Oil Barons runnin scared. :D

Knock on Wood! :D :D
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Drill Alaska!!!! Drill offshore!!!!

There's only so much time left to rid the planet of that nasty mucky stuff before everything transitions over to battery power....:cool:

Have any of you folks ever been to Alaska? I have, and I've flown out in the bush country there too. I'm not a tree hugger, but the last thing we need to do is destroy the last beautiful place we have left, and it's damn hard to drill without the ecology paying a VERY dear price. The reserves up there aren't going to save our bacon for long. If you visited Alaska, you'd return with the same feeling.

If this country would stop kissing Arab a ss, (remember that almost the entire 9/11 crew was Saudi) and charge them for food, Levis, Coke, heavy equipment, and all the other good sh it they can't and don't make like they charge us for crude, we could even the score. No boycotts necessary. No more American goods without fair oil prices. Period.

I remember flying over the east coast/Nova Scotia area during the last energy crisis in the 70's- there were 'low in the water' tankers offshore for as far as the eye could see, and what little gas you could get at the pumps (when in line forever) was priced out of this world. Deja vu?
Hold on to your hat, Fred...............

Have you seen the place they want to drill in Alaska? Nothing but mud flats and mosquitoes in the summer and frozen tundra in the winter. This is no jewel they're trying to protect.

The Dept of Energy website says that the oil reserves in Alaska are extremely small. It would ease some of our demand, but only for a very short time.

I'm sure it will get drilled out, someday, as a last resort. Probably when things turn really desperate.

Drill Alaska!!!! Drill offshore!!!!

HELL WE KICKED THE CRAP OUT OF IRAQ NOW LETS BLEED THEIR LAND DRY. GAS SHOULD BE .50 A GALLON NOW :hothead:

Didn't US just fill our emergency oil reserves ? Could this be why there is a shortage?




Strategic Petroleum Reserve
The U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve is the largest stockpile of government-owned emergency crude oil in the world. Established in the aftermath of the 1973-74 oil embargo, the SPR provides the President with a powerful response option should a disruption in commercial oil supplies threaten the U.S. economy. It also allows the United States to meet part of its International Energy Agency obligation to maintain emergency oil stocks, and it provides a national defense fuel reserve.


In May 2001 the Bush Administration released its National Energy Policy. The Policy endorsed adding oil to the Strategic Reserve using the "royalty in kind" program, and in November 2001, President Bush announced his intent to fill the Reserve to its full 700 million barrel capacity.

http://www.fe.doe.gov/programs/reser...spr_fill.shtml

February 10, 2003
New Contracts Awarded for Planned Spring Acceleration of Oil Fill for Strategic Petroleum Reserve
DOE has awarded three new crude oil delivery contracts in preparation for accelerating fill of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve this spring.
http://www.fe.doe.gov/news/techlines...k2003_sel.html


August 8, 2002
Koch Submits Winning Bid to Supply Additional Oil to Strategic Reserve
Koch Supply & Trading, LP, will become the newest supplier of crude oil to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve under President Bush's plan to fill the emergency oil stockpile to its full capacity by 2005.
http://www.fe.doe.gov/news/techlines...2002_koch.html


July 26, 2002
Administration to Increase Fill Rate of Strategic Petroleum Reserve
The Bush Administration is boosting the rate at which it is filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the nation's emergency oil stockpile.

Feb 2003: "The Strategic Reserve currently has 599 million barrels stored in its underground salt caverns along the Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast."

http://www.fe.doe.gov/news/techlines...k2003_sel.html

Yes, and it's slightly more than that.:rolleyes:
Said before, there is hardly enough up there to bother with, especially at the rate this country uses crude.
When were you there?

We, the taxpayers of the U.S., are spending 86 BILLION $$$ to "rebuild" Iraq. Why doesn't our gov. ask/demand repayment in Iraq oil?

Probably because Iraqi's didn't ask us to come to start a war. Yes, they (Shiites and Kurds) would have loved to see Saddam removed from power, but they certainly did not want a war on their soil, killing their people.

There was no a humanitarian crisis in Iraq at the time - so that's why we used "WMD" as our reason for war. And so far, that reason hasn't panned out at all. So the Iraq oil issue is going to be a very touchy subject for quite some time.




But we do get oil from Iraq. This is what the Dept of Energy website said before the war started: (Once war was declared, this page from the DOE was poofed)


http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/iraq.html
"The reduced volume of Iraqi exports in much of 2002 appears to have been a result of at least two main factors: 1) Iraq's unilateral one-month embargo of oil exports in April 2002 ostensibly in support of the Palestinians; and 2) pressure by the United States and other countries to clamp down on Iraq's practice of charging an illegal "surcharge" on their U.N. -authorized oil exports.

Since mid-December 2002, however, Iraq has increased its production and exports sharply, with production reportedly reaching 2.6 million bbl/d bbl/d, "oil-for-food" exports at 1.8 million bbl/d, and illegal exports at around 400,000 bbl/d. During the first eleven months of 2002, the United States imported an average of 449,000 bbl/d from Iraq. In January 2003, approximately 1.9 million bbl/d of Iraqi oil went to the Americas (up from 910,000 bbl/d in December 2002 and 515,000 bbl/d in November), while 430,000 bbl/d went to Europe and 140,000 bbl/d to Asia.

To some extent, increased Iraqi oil exports to the Americas have helped fill the loss created by a major oil strike and general unrest in Venezuela beginning in December 2002.

Iraq's true resource potential may be far greater than this, however, as the country is largely (90% or so) unexplored due to years of war and sanctions. Deep oil-bearing formations located mainly in the vast Western Desert region, for instance, could yield large additional oil resources (possibly another 100 billion barrels), but have not been explored."

Bingo

its all a big push by automakers to help get there PIECE OF **** ELECTRIC VEHICLES in the market. if gas goes up in summer and down in winter way cant they make it stay the same year round. because they now people vacation in the summer. why cant the govenor of each state put a stop to the price because we pay and they dont. if they were paying they wolud ***** the same.