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cig1988 04-06-2004 07:37 AM

Too good to be true???
 
Whats your opinion?

your CIGARETTE BULLET 31 boat for $53,000 in respect of shipping to Pretoria, Republic Of South Africa my shipping Agent will take care of shipping. I have already contacted a client owing me the sum $88,800 and he has agreed to send a check or money order and bank draft to you. As soon as it clears your bank, please deduct the cost and you can send the balance to my shipper.
Also send the pic
If this is okay,
Please forward
Name
Address
Telephone
Zip Code
so that I can arrange payment by Cheque.
or if you want the money transfer to your acoount send your account details.
Thanks
Cliff James

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cig1988 04-06-2004 07:39 AM

Anyone ever deal with something like this? No way I'm giving any bank info nor depositing a check for $88k into my account.

HiPerf2000 04-06-2004 07:40 AM

Scam.

anyone from overseas asking you to deposit $$, then send them the balance of an overpayment, is a SCAM.

i got a few of the same emails while selling my boat.

ScottB 04-06-2004 07:47 AM

Open a new checking account with it, wait a bout a month and see if you still got the money

cig1988 04-06-2004 07:47 AM

Has anyone ever replied to this sort of crap and got an answer?

Chris288 04-06-2004 07:50 AM

I have gotten the same exact messages for EVERYTHING I have listed somewhere to sell.. my 93 ford f-150, my 01 YZF-426, my Mazda MX3.. My currently advertised Baja.. all B.S.

cig1988 04-06-2004 07:58 AM

That's what I thought. Chris, what happens when you reply to "them"

Cord 04-06-2004 08:19 AM

scam. They want you to cash a bogus check. By the time the check doesn't clear you have already written a check back to them.

The other version is to write you a bogus check and then leave with your property. You don't know it's a scam until the check doesn't clear. By then they are long gone.

Sean 04-06-2004 08:19 AM

stan...gimme a ring

Ron P 04-06-2004 08:48 AM

Talk to Boot, he almost fell for it.

CigDaze 04-06-2004 09:18 AM

Scam. :mad:

Gary Anderson 04-06-2004 09:43 AM

Hmmmm, rings a bell.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...threadid=72231

R Addiction 04-06-2004 09:49 AM

Don't do it!! A friend of mine got scammed like this....RUN!!!:eek:

Quiet Storm 04-06-2004 10:42 AM

I've been talking to a guy that sounds just like this. He keeps asking me if I received his check yet.

He wants to send three engineers for three days to check out a 28' boat. He will send a check for $7,000.00 that I should cash and pay for there hotel and then send the rest to the engineering firm.

After I led him on for awhile I told him his offer sounds like a scam and I was selling the boat to a local person.

He tried to lay a guilt trip on me then:rolleyes: From my return e-mail, I don't think he will be back.

If it sounds to good to be true, it is.

Reed Jensen 04-06-2004 10:53 AM

yeah.. yeah... yeah.... " Hello ... my name is M'butu and I'm a banker in Nigeria.... I want to send you 1.3 million dollars... when is this stuff going to end?........:hothead:

MitchStellin 04-06-2004 11:09 AM

I say open an account and see what happens, make sure you don't spend the money for a while and that way if/when they want it back you will be whole. There has to be some way to get these guys back. Never send the balance, that is how they turn bad money into good, in the old days this was called laundering or changing.:D

Steamin Rice 04-06-2004 11:50 AM

Too good to be true. SCAM....

GregP 04-06-2004 12:24 PM

Here's my copy of the same thing.

Hello Greg


Thanks for the reply i have recieved the pics sorry i amout of town i can rech you for now let proceed forward my engineers will come to access the condition of the BOAT so please furnish me with the nearest airport to you so that when the engineers arrive you will come and pick the engineers.

i will like to know how much it will cost for lodging three days note that the hotel resevation will be at my own expense.

i will preffer the room for $100 per night the engineers are three in numbers that will come to you for the inspection for three days they will also come along with actual amount you want to sell the BOAT US$40,000.


for now i will instruct my creditor in THE STATE to issue a cashiers check worth of $7,000 and you will deduct the cost of the hotel reservation expenses and send the balance to the engineering company that will come to you for inpection it will be used for frieght charges and order charges

please send the below information so that i will forward it to
the creditor to issue the cashiers check base on your information.

1] FULL NAME THAT WILL BE WRITTEN ON THE CHECK
2] MAILING ADDRESS
3] PHONE NUMBER

REGARDS

SHELTON BROWN


Notice they aren't smart enough to not use all caps for the <fill in the name> field. I sent it to the FBI. They have a whole web site just for this scam.

"Thank you for your submission of information via
the FBI.Gov Web site. A review of the information
you provided reveals that you may have been
approached over the Internet to participate in an
advanced fee scam. There are many variations of
the scam, but most offer to pay for an item with a
cashier's check that turns out to be fraudulent.
The victim's bank does not discover the fraud
until after the victim has forwarded money to the
perpetrator. Inasmuch as the FBI receives reports
of this type of activity on a regular basis there
is no need to forward any such additional emails
to the FBI.


You do not need to forward the emails to us.
Also, if you know that you are receiving Spam
mail, it is advisable not to open the mail because
your email address will be validated by the sender
even if you don’t reply to the email.


For your information, the Internet Tip Line (ITL)
was created on 9/11/01, in response to the
terrorist attacks upon America. We quickly
established a mechanism for the public to submit
information to the FBI via the Internet, and we
received our first tip at 10:31 AM that first day.
Director Mueller has since made the ITL a
permanent part of FBI operations, and we have thus
far received over 840,000 tips from around the
globe, from which thousands of leads have been
sent to FBI Field and Legal Attaché offices for
action.


Initially, almost 100% of the tips received were
related to the terrorist attacks; however, now
approximately 45% of all tips received are related
to almost every other FBI criminal program, e.g.,
drug trafficking, organized crime, money
laundering, pyramid schemes, child pornography,
fugitives, bank robbery.


Our operation is completely automated and
paperless. Submitted tips are received
immediately, reviewed within minutes and
prioritized by trained Professional Support
personnel, and Agents set action leads within the
hour, as appropriate.


We encourage you to share this information with
your family, friends, and co-workers, and
encourage them to not hesitate to submit
information they may deem of interest to the FBI.
Again, thank you for taking the time to forward
this report to us."


-Greg

Quiet Storm 04-06-2004 12:31 PM

GregP

Except for the money amounts that the exact e-mail that I received from good old Sheldon.:mad:

Wouldn't you love to meet this piece of crap in a dark alley:hothead:

JC 04-06-2004 12:32 PM

Sold a 2002 30 Daytona for 175K, they sent me a cashiers ck (down payment) of 75K. I made many phone calls (first to the bank which said it was good to go ahead and cash it) only to find out it was a scam. I tore up the check.

Cord 04-06-2004 12:38 PM

Remember people! A cashiers check or certified check ONLY means the money WAS in the account when the check was written!

thisistank 04-06-2004 12:50 PM

I came on here to post a copy of the letter I just got on email. It sounds too good to be true...So probably is! Heres the email I got from this guy:

"Hello,
This is Mr Cliff James from Pretoria south africa. I am intrested in buying your Baja SST 24' Outlaw 24 for $42,000 in respect of shipping to Pretoria, Republic Of South Africa my shipping Agent will take care of shipping. I have already contacted a client owing me the sum $65,800 and he has agreed to send a check or money order and bank draft to you. As soon as it clears your bank, please deduct the cost and you can send the balance to my shipper.
Also send the car pic
If this is okay,
Please forward
Name
Address
Telephone
Zip Code
so that I can arrange payment by Cheque.
or if you want the money transfer to your acoount send your account details.
Thanks
Cliff James"

First clue this was a scam..."Send pic of car..." WTF??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Tank

Never the less, my boats still for sale!:D

JPD Motorsports 04-06-2004 01:02 PM

Why couldn't a person open a new account seperate from their main one ask for a wire transfer instead of a money order? Let it clear then transfer the funds to anoth account that they don't have the account numbers to, close the one you used for the transfer and wait to see what happens next? Just an idea to get these scammers.

thisistank 04-06-2004 01:24 PM


Originally posted by Hard On
Why couldn't a person open a new account seperate from their main one ask for a wire transfer instead of a money order? Let it clear then transfer the funds to anoth account that they don't have the account numbers to, close the one you used for the transfer and wait to see what happens next? Just an idea to get these scammers.
Well, first of all, if the FBI is right and it's an "Advanced fee scam" using fraudulant cashier's checks, you could ultimately be held liable for the money lost to the bank and/or be held criminally liable as an accomplice. Trust me, the whole, "Well I didn't know it was illegal" claim doesn't go too far.

Home-boy from South Africa will be laughing his ass off at you on his yacht off the coast. Sipping martinis while some young blonde is doing things that can't be mentioned on this board counting the money he scammed from you while you're tied up in litigation and felony charges!

:rolleyes: :D

Tank

BAJA342 04-06-2004 04:02 PM

Got the same email yesterday from Cliff for my boat also!!! P.O.S.

R Addiction 04-06-2004 04:58 PM

If you can contact "AC" from this board he got caught up in this and lost money. Don't even reply to this A-hole. :mad:

cig1988 04-07-2004 05:52 AM

Perhaps I should reply back with Bill Harris' name and address?

cig1988 04-08-2004 05:50 AM

:p :D


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