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Steve 1 04-11-2004 03:08 PM

Another problem is the rewriting of history ..And Movies like Disney's Pearl Harbor that half glorify the enemy at the time...One reading of a Book like Ghost Solders will quickly Cure all the warped Illusion's the "Kinder gentler compassionate"PC group is now trying to Portray.

CAP071 04-11-2004 03:10 PM

Olivi was one of many veterans angered by an exhibit at the Smithsonian Institution for the 50th anniversary of the bombings.

"It's slanted more in sympathy to the Japanese than it is to us,"


So True :mad:

Downtown42 04-11-2004 03:24 PM


Originally posted by CigaretteFirefox
I appreciate Fred Olivi and all veterans Of the United States Armed Forces.
Thank you for making my life possible.
Rest in Peace Fred Olivi

Me too.

Comanche3Six 04-11-2004 05:19 PM


Originally posted by CAP071
Olivi was one of many veterans angered by an exhibit at the Smithsonian Institution for the 50th anniversary of the bombings.

"It's slanted more in sympathy to the Japanese than it is to us,"


So True :mad:

The Smithsonian Institution people should have read about the Bataan Death march. You lose sympathy fast.
The Japanese were tough and they were bastards.

Steve 1 04-11-2004 05:51 PM

Firefox Absolutly Right I have been in the Philippines and My next visit there will pay Respects to the Camps where so many perished.. Also as for war retributions they never paid nothing ..

Talking about the Americans held under less than Slave conditions (in the Mitsubishi Mines per example) and they have never paid a Dime or the captors made to suffer the penalties...

Your Dad was on the Pennsylvania!! He saw a lot of action..Those big Ships stood toe to toe and slugged it out.

Back to the B-29 When they armed that Bomb there was a large uncertainty on survival ...Like the thing could of detonated right there and then in their face. Those were brave Men Also crash landing in Japan a real No No it meant a very for sure and cruel death.

CAP071 04-11-2004 06:00 PM

My Grandfather's Brother was on a PT Boat Never really talked much about it. said nothing he really wanted to remember he use to get too upset thinking about what he had seen

Havasu Cig 04-11-2004 07:55 PM

RIP.....

Both of my Grandfathers fought in WW2....One in the Pacific in the Navy, the other was a P-51 pilot in Europe. After sustaining injuries from a plane crash that ended his flight career, he returned as an Infantry Officer and fought in France and Germany, including the Battle of the Bulge.

Definitely a great generation of Warriors.....It is sad to see younger people these days that no nothing about what these men went through for our freedom. All they know is the $hit that they see on MTV:rolleyes:

Roger 1 04-11-2004 09:49 PM

My Father fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He talked very little about it and my Mother always told me not to ask him about it. There were a few times that he would let out bits and pieces, usually during an unrelated conversation but he would never just sit and talk about his war experience.

tripps 04-12-2004 06:15 PM

I just came back from Hawaii and i took my 2 sons to the Arizona Mermorial in Pearl Harbor,all i have to say is they hit first killing 1500 plus men,injuring thousands. Why??? My father was in the Navy in that time and it was no fun!! Granted,the innocent people i feel bad for,but what about our innocent people?? Tripps

georges 04-12-2004 09:16 PM


Originally posted by CigaretteFirefox
I appreciate Fred Olivi and all veterans Of the United States Armed Forces.
Thank you for making my life possible.
Rest in Peace Fred Olivi

I would be speaking German if it weren't for the brave American soldiers.
Thank you.


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