Another stepped hull goes dancing
06-01-2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
i was in a 32 velocity big single blower motor and it was by far the craziest most violent ill handling ( nicknamed it flipper) boat i could evey imagine,, it had to be rough or the thing woud just keep chine wlking at anythiong over 65 mph,, it keeps falling off the pad,., so bottom line is they are all dangerous,, people need to drive with thier head not their ass,,,
some comon sense would be nice too
some comon sense would be nice too
06-01-2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Originally Posted by Jonas
i feel that this is a point that is being beaten to death,
i think its silly if u want to turn like a porsche would be like an allison my 35 fountain would be like a hummer goes thru bumps but i am not gonna take it to infineon raceway and see how quickly i COuld spin or roll,,
your average person is a dumbass and we cant do anything about that i am worried that we are goig to be so dam protected we will all drive ELECTRIC HUNDAIS..
THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO CONTROLL ARE THE LAWYRS,, in most countries around the world if u flip your boat and hurtyourself we would feel bad for u and u would say ah i screwed up and move on..
oh no calif its the boats fault the water wasnt blue enough the boats step jumped out and spun me its a FREAKIN JOKE..
NO TAKES RESPONIBILITY FOR THIER ACTIONS,, ITS A DARN BLAME GAME.
ANSWER IS NO MORE FRIVELOUS BS LAWSUITS,..
IF U CAN SUE FOR SPILLIN HOT COFFE THIS CHIT IS WRONG. U ARE A MORON FOR SPILLIN AND CANT ACCEPT THAT AND AN ATTORNEY WILL MAKE U REALIZE HOW WRONG IT IS TO SELL HOT COFFEEE ????????????????
WHAT A JOKE....
MY 2CNTS
i think its silly if u want to turn like a porsche would be like an allison my 35 fountain would be like a hummer goes thru bumps but i am not gonna take it to infineon raceway and see how quickly i COuld spin or roll,,
your average person is a dumbass and we cant do anything about that i am worried that we are goig to be so dam protected we will all drive ELECTRIC HUNDAIS..
THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO CONTROLL ARE THE LAWYRS,, in most countries around the world if u flip your boat and hurtyourself we would feel bad for u and u would say ah i screwed up and move on..
oh no calif its the boats fault the water wasnt blue enough the boats step jumped out and spun me its a FREAKIN JOKE..
NO TAKES RESPONIBILITY FOR THIER ACTIONS,, ITS A DARN BLAME GAME.
ANSWER IS NO MORE FRIVELOUS BS LAWSUITS,..
IF U CAN SUE FOR SPILLIN HOT COFFE THIS CHIT IS WRONG. U ARE A MORON FOR SPILLIN AND CANT ACCEPT THAT AND AN ATTORNEY WILL MAKE U REALIZE HOW WRONG IT IS TO SELL HOT COFFEEE ????????????????
WHAT A JOKE....
MY 2CNTS
Interesting point about Fountains, however....after Ben Robinson started racing in Factory 1 in a pad bottom Fountain.... He started making setup changes based on his experience racing Allisons in prior years. The changes worked quite well.... Unfortunately his later Factory 2 escapades led to some questionable engine mods..... and he was hysterically labeled a cheater...by people who would rather throw a guy out than fully comprehend why he was faster and more talented than themselves.
T2x
06-01-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Originally Posted by lakeluvr
Yes, in fact it was a TS/TG. I had seen it earlier this year at Lake Shores. I think it had been recently purchased from Lip Shipp, a gorgeous Gun BTW. Drivers seat stand broken and torn from floor and hatch is gone, but otherwise doesn't look too bad for being under water. They have the motors flushed already and new oil and have had them running. Just waiting on insurance co. now.
06-01-2004, 06:22 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Joey,
With all due respect, I remember this "old style" "inefficient" bottom beating your "new style" "better" bottom on a fairly regular basis. Then, at this years race in St. Cloud you offered to "instruct" this very same operator for a nominal fee, until you found out that he beat you on a fairly regular basis.
hmmmmmmmm
With all due respect, I remember this "old style" "inefficient" bottom beating your "new style" "better" bottom on a fairly regular basis. Then, at this years race in St. Cloud you offered to "instruct" this very same operator for a nominal fee, until you found out that he beat you on a fairly regular basis.
hmmmmmmmm
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06-01-2004, 06:24 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
Steps are definitely a marketing tool. If you don't have them customers aren't looking at you as much. None the less companies like Sonic are doing great without them.
However they do work. A constant increase of atleast 10% for us using identicle hulls and decks on a 37', 8500 lb. boat. Every time, too. Single step DDC design. And I would venture to say anybody on the board that has ridden in one would testify to it's unusual ride and attitude.
The problem is going to be injuries, lawsuits and government control as we all have talked about. We already see the lawmaker's heavy hand regarding emissions and noise. Certainly safety is on the top of the list.
However they do work. A constant increase of atleast 10% for us using identicle hulls and decks on a 37', 8500 lb. boat. Every time, too. Single step DDC design. And I would venture to say anybody on the board that has ridden in one would testify to it's unusual ride and attitude.
The problem is going to be injuries, lawsuits and government control as we all have talked about. We already see the lawmaker's heavy hand regarding emissions and noise. Certainly safety is on the top of the list.
You are a fine man, with a realistic outlook, who is not affraid to call a spade a spade and tell it how it is. Not to mention you build one hell of a 32' boat!
I hope you are well my friend.
06-01-2004, 06:26 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Originally Posted by Jonas
i feel that this is a point that is being beaten to death,
i think its silly if u want to turn like a porsche would be like an allison my 35 fountain would be like a hummer goes thru bumps but i am not gonna take it to infineon raceway and see how quickly i COuld spin or roll,,
your average person is a dumbass and we cant do anything about that i am worried that we are goig to be so dam protected we will all drive ELECTRIC HUNDAIS..
THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO CONTROLL ARE THE LAWYRS,, in most countries around the world if u flip your boat and hurtyourself we would feel bad for u and u would say ah i screwed up and move on..
oh no calif its the boats fault the water wasnt blue enough the boats step jumped out and spun me its a FREAKIN JOKE..
NO TAKES RESPONIBILITY FOR THIER ACTIONS,, ITS A DARN BLAME GAME.
ANSWER IS NO MORE FRIVELOUS BS LAWSUITS,..
IF U CAN SUE FOR SPILLIN HOT COFFE THIS CHIT IS WRONG. U ARE A MORON FOR SPILLIN AND CANT ACCEPT THAT AND AN ATTORNEY WILL MAKE U REALIZE HOW WRONG IT IS TO SELL HOT COFFEEE ????????????????
WHAT A JOKE....
MY 2CNTS
i think its silly if u want to turn like a porsche would be like an allison my 35 fountain would be like a hummer goes thru bumps but i am not gonna take it to infineon raceway and see how quickly i COuld spin or roll,,
your average person is a dumbass and we cant do anything about that i am worried that we are goig to be so dam protected we will all drive ELECTRIC HUNDAIS..
THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO CONTROLL ARE THE LAWYRS,, in most countries around the world if u flip your boat and hurtyourself we would feel bad for u and u would say ah i screwed up and move on..
oh no calif its the boats fault the water wasnt blue enough the boats step jumped out and spun me its a FREAKIN JOKE..
NO TAKES RESPONIBILITY FOR THIER ACTIONS,, ITS A DARN BLAME GAME.
ANSWER IS NO MORE FRIVELOUS BS LAWSUITS,..
IF U CAN SUE FOR SPILLIN HOT COFFE THIS CHIT IS WRONG. U ARE A MORON FOR SPILLIN AND CANT ACCEPT THAT AND AN ATTORNEY WILL MAKE U REALIZE HOW WRONG IT IS TO SELL HOT COFFEEE ????????????????
WHAT A JOKE....
MY 2CNTS
06-01-2004, 06:27 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Spitfire, Sweet! '98? I had a white one that I sold to Craig's kid when he was at Stainless Marine. Loved that body style. The new one had to grow on me. Any opinions on the '05 body?
06-01-2004, 06:29 PM
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Re: Another stepped hull goes dancing
Originally Posted by Too Old
I can think of at least a couple builders of very fast V bottoms that don't build steps and have no interest in doing so. Sutphen and Velocity. I'm sure there's more.
"NO STEPS, NO PADS, NO BEAK, O BULL!!!!!!"
06-01-2004, 06:36 PM
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Shane, how've you been? Yeah, everything is good. Except, you are right, my only problem IS calling a spade a spade! When you are coming south make sure you call me.
Pat.
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