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docmanrich37 06-07-2004 03:40 PM

LOST MY TIME & MONEY IN FLA.
 
went to Fla to buy a $200,000 boat & can you believe it that the dealer didn't even have the boat checked out before i got there.200 is chump change to some people but you would think that the boat would be at least cleaned, batteries charged up & boat tested on a water hose.I'm a boat dealer myself & i always make sure a boat is at least clean & running before a customer spends $2,000 on airfare,hotel & eats before they arrive.I only sell boats under $50,000.I guess my customers get the red carpet compared too what i got.The thing that gets me the most is that all i was told that "YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED".So if anyone is selling a 37'avh shoot me a email.

Sydwayz 06-07-2004 03:46 PM

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WOW Rich. I am very sorry to hear this. That is an amazing boat (when prepped) and I hope that something else may come up that you find attractive. There are a few 388 Hustlers for sale that look REALLY nice.

I guess Thunderstorm is not coming to VA.

docmanrich37 06-07-2004 03:53 PM

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It never hit the water.But i Won't Be Disappointed The Next Time.Just to set the record straight Active Thunder Company had nothing to do with the sell of this boat or any connection with it.I think i'll call Pat myself.

Audiofn 06-07-2004 04:19 PM

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That sucks. I drove about 7 hours each way to look at a boat that was a total POS when the owner PROMISED me I would also not be disapointed. He even went so far as to say I would never have you drive all that way if it was not nice. When I got there it had cracks in the bottom of the hull and there was not a piece of the boat that was not in need of TOTAL resoration. I am one for a project and all but this was rediculous. However all things happen for a reason as on the way there Biggus from the board found me a REAL clean and very rare boat.

Jon

Downtown42 06-07-2004 04:25 PM

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there was a deal on a new 37 that needs rigging-complete. Pat may know but was posted for sale 1 mo ago.

docmanrich37 06-07-2004 04:33 PM

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I went to NM after leaving the other shop and i've got more calls from NM since sat. than I got since dealing with the other guy.Not looking for the red carpet treatment just soom kind of respect of my time & $$$.The salesmen still hasn't called me what a shame that boat had my name on it.sorry to the owner of the boat too.

docmanrich37 06-07-2004 04:36 PM

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Thanks Downtown I'll call him tomorrow.

Thunder32 06-07-2004 05:16 PM

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Hey Doc-

you know Frank has his for sale- 525's and loaded.....hmmmmm

Adam

NJgr8ful 06-07-2004 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich25
I went to NM after leaving the other shop and i've got more calls from NM since sat. than I got since dealing with the other guy.Not looking for the red carpet treatment just soom kind of respect of my time & $$$.The salesmen still hasn't called me what a shame that boat had my name on it.sorry to the owner of the boat too.

You've got more patience than I, Doc. I've heard you say a couple times "you don't deserve the red carpet treatment"??!?!! BS!

A quality, dealer, business, or person, would treat you like you're their #1 customer no matter what the price of the boat is. I'd be taking my business somewhere else before he could even utter the words "HOLD ON, we'll make it right"

There's too many good people and businesses on OSO, and people who know good people, to put it with that BS! IMHO :mad: :( :rolleyes:

Tim G. 06-07-2004 05:43 PM

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Rich,
It was a pleasure meeting you this weekend.
I'm working on getting the info on that '00 we spoke about...


I know I didn't have the red carpet for you when you rolled up to National Marine..but we did have the fridge door open.. :drink:

Thanks for stopping by.
We'll be in touch shortly.

Tim G.
National Marine FL

docmanrich37 06-07-2004 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder32
Hey Doc-

you know Frank has his for sale- 525's and loaded.....hmmmmm

Adam

Thunder going to call him & Pat tomorrow.thanks Is your new A/T splashed yet.

Thunder32 06-07-2004 06:47 PM

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no A/T for me. deal went south. purchased a 2003 358 Sonic.

Frank's A/T 37AVH is pretty sweet, but for that type of cash, I would look at the cig's.
They have a 2004 Top Gun with some 750 Cobras I believe. I've been in both, and .....well you know.

ActiveThunderTodd 06-07-2004 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder32
no A/T for me. deal went south. purchased a 2003 358 Sonic.

Frank's A/T 37AVH is pretty sweet, but for that type of cash, I would look at the cig's.
They have a 2004 Top Gun with some 750 Cobras I believe. I've been in both, and .....well you know.

I have had the opportunity to ride on both, and for my money I'd get the AT. I wish I was in a postion to get one, but unfortunatly I have to sell my 32'. I told Tracy that when "Best Revenge" sells she better not laugh when I cry.

Jonas 06-08-2004 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich25
went to Fla to buy a $200,000 boat & can you believe it that the dealer didn't even have the boat checked out before i got there.200 is chump change to some people but you would think that the boat would be at least cleaned, batteries charged up & boat tested on a water hose.I'm a boat dealer myself & i always make sure a boat is at least clean & running before a customer spends $2,000 on airfare,hotel & eats before they arrive.I only sell boats under $50,000.I guess my customers get the red carpet compared too what i got.The thing that gets me the most is that all i was told that "YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED".So if anyone is selling a 37'avh shoot me a email.

I dont understand it..
it blows my mind,,, i have never been so disapointed in a purchase in my life as the last transaction and my wife thinks i am a complete f in idiot,. you know i think she is right...
it sucks because its supposed to be the happiest in your life the day u buy it and the day u sell it.. the money is huge for these things,, and i do expect red carpet treatment to some degree. i got that when i bought my wifes 745I and when i bought viper. and both of those combined didnt equal the darn boat $$$...
when u buy a house do u get treated like that? in some places homes cost less than thse boats..
dont they care about repeat business?
are there that many people buying 200k+ boats ??
i will buy a boat prob every other year and thats just because i am that way i get bored with chit,, and like change,
great story,,,
my buddy bought a hustler from a dealer i believe in ohio and traded in his 38 fountain about 1 mo ago and put a couple weekends on it and then 1 motor went south the dealer sent a local shop here 2 hp 500 shorblocks so they wuld ensure he would be happy..
I AM GOING THERE FOR MY NEXT BOAT I GAURANTEE IT..
THATS CUSTOMER SERVICE,,, YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO RECOMEND THAT SHOP I THINK SO..
i am not going to recomend the shop where i bought mine,, i gaurantee that...
its pretty simple to do good business, treat people the way u want to be treated thats all!!!

good luck and hope u find what u want... and make em earn their money.

excursion 06-08-2004 06:59 AM

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Hey Doc, its James & Reba from Richmond, I will sell you mine for 200K and pick you up at you house in a LIMO and have CRYSTAL champaine, put you up in the nicest hotel and restaurants, heck I will even fill up the gas tank and have it detailed at your house.


Just Kidding, sorry to hear about your trip, good luck, see you at the poker run.

James
"HYPERACTIVE"

Downtown42 06-08-2004 08:20 AM

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Dreamer I think's buddy has 99 Gun 500's 130k. I can't believe it is not gone. Private 1 owner.

wannabe 06-08-2004 08:58 AM

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Docman:

Post the dealers name and shame them into NOT doing this to another OSO'er.

If you post the facts they cannot argue.

Wannabe

docmanrich37 06-08-2004 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by excursion
Hey Doc, its James & Reba from Richmond, I will sell you mine for 200K and pick you up at you house in a LIMO and have CRYSTAL champaine, put you up in the nicest hotel and restaurants, heck I will even fill up the gas tank and have it detailed at your house.


Just Kidding, sorry to hear about your trip, good luck, see you at the poker run.

James
"HYPERACTIVE"

Thanks but no champaine just boonesfarm melonball for the wife.By the way your boat good passing me at sml after the storm hit. see ya on river & can you make sure they have coronas at the party this year my boat only runs on them.see ya.

docmanrich37 06-08-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wannabe
Docman:

Post the dealers name and shame them into NOT doing this to another OSO'er.

If you post the facts they cannot argue.

Wannabe

Don't have to post the aftermarket dealer's name.Anyone that knows the boat knows the dealer's name so every dog has his day.I guess when you sell 17 boats at $499,000 each in 5 months a $200,000 brokered boat is no skin off your transom.dealer still hasn't even called me.I guess he has nothing to say but i do.Thank the lord for the internet can be your best or worst advertising place...

h2owarrior 06-08-2004 11:39 AM

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Was it Thunder Dan's boat you were looking at ? I thought Dan always kept that boat well maintained.

Jonas 06-08-2004 11:52 AM

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when i spoke to dan a while back i believe it was at pats place so would be a diff boat.

Jonas 06-08-2004 12:12 PM

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did u look at dans thunder 37??

Sydwayz 06-08-2004 12:24 PM

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It was Thunder Dan's boat that Rich had his eye on. It is at a brokerage in Florida at the moment.

docmanrich37 06-08-2004 12:25 PM

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It was TD's boat I was looking at.it was/is a very nice boat and TD did take care of it when he left it at the selling dealer place, but it's not at pat's place when i went to look at it, but i wish it would off been.PAT & the owner are the only ones that did contact me.TIME TO MOVE ON CUZ "$UMTHING GOTTA GIVE".

EvilTwin 06-08-2004 01:28 PM

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Docman,

I tried emailing you before you went. I know where the boat was. I looked at it when I was picking mine up a few weeks ago. I won't say anymore than I got a run around when I was interested in buying that AT. (and it wasn't from the broker that has it now). Kind of ironic that I was VERY interested in purchasing it (AT), but when I was being screwed around with, I went and purchased a 2002 38 Top Gun and it showed up at the broker to sell when I picked up my Cig.

Steve 1 06-08-2004 01:34 PM

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Thunder Dan is a super nice guy ..Maybe a phone call to him will get the wheels moving faster.

docmanrich37 06-08-2004 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve 1
Thunder Dan is a super nice guy ..Maybe a phone call to him will get the wheels moving faster.

TD is a nice guy & the wheels are already turning.thanks EVILTWIN not sure about your dealings and with who but they say things happen for a reason.

Thunder32 06-08-2004 03:56 PM

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Todd-

I cannot believe that your boat has not sold. "Best Revenge" is one of my favorite AT's and got to ride in it with Pat on day back in 2000 (or01).
500HP's, and the boat ran strong, nice Myco trailer, and killer paint.
For 92K or so, it's a steal for someone.

h2owarrior 06-08-2004 08:45 PM

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I saw the boat (ThunderStorm) on Randy Sweers site and started a thread on the AT board asking if Dan still owned the boat or not. No one ever answered. Does anyone know if Dan does in fact still own the boat ? If not, who did Dan sell it to, Randy ? or someone else that is now trying to re-sale it ?

I know what you mean about spending money to look at boats. I have traveled extensively since selling my AT. Some experiences good, some bad. You never know. I have become accustomed to it and try and make the best of it. Hey, a couple of days in South Florida can be fun regardless of the boat......hey look at it this way....you still have your money......and they don't :D :drink: :D

docmanrich37 06-08-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by h2owarrior
I saw the boat (ThunderStorm) on Randy Sweers site and started a thread on the AT board asking if Dan still owned the boat or not. No one ever answered. Does anyone know if Dan does in fact still own the boat ? If not, who did Dan sell it to, Randy ? or someone else that is now trying to re-sale it ?

I know what you mean about spending money to look at boats. I have traveled extensively since selling my AT. Some experiences good, some bad. You never know. I have become accustomed to it and try and make the best of it. Hey, a couple of days in South Florida can be fun regardless of the boat......hey look at it this way....you still have your money......and they don't :D :drink: :D

Didn't think of it that way but your right I still do have my $$$$$.dan is still selling it.

MitchStellin 06-08-2004 09:13 PM

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That is the best revenge. Go to the dealer with a boat from somewhere else and walk up to him and say " you had a chance to sell me a boat, I am not sure why you never even tried when I was right in your face" This and an off color comment about his small pee pee and you win. :) Docman, make sure you rub it in and you are right....everything happens for a reason. :cool:

Jonas 06-08-2004 09:14 PM

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DAN IS A GOOD GUY FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM TALKING TO HIM!!!!
i wanted that boat but at the time itwas out of the price range dictated by acctant wife etc..
and at the time i thought going thru a dealer would be the smarter choice a i needed to get rid of our existing boat.. hmmm coulda woulda shoulda.. doh

h2owarrior 06-08-2004 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonas
DAN IS A GOOD GUY FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM TALKING TO HIM!!!!

I gotta disagree with you Jonas.....Dan is a great guy :D We went on several of Thunder Runs with Dan and Barb when we owned Thunder EnLightening and had a great time. I am curious why Dan is selling the boat. We sold our boat for a couple of reasons, mainly wanted to move to a larger boat. Narrowed it down to a 44' Sunseeker Camargue or 43' Fairline Targa.

Those 37' AVH AT's are really nice boats. Great ride and hull efficiency.

Jonas 06-08-2004 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonas
DAN IS A GOOD GUY FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM TALKING TO HIM!!!!
i wanted that boat but at the time itwas out of the price range dictated by acctant wife etc..
and at the time i thought going thru a dealer would be the smarter choice a i needed to get rid of our existing boat.. hmmm coulda woulda shoulda.. doh


h20
that is what i said he is a GREAT GUY!!! I just couldnt pull the trigger and buy it as was out of my budget at thetime..

WetKitty42 06-08-2004 11:30 PM

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Jonas did Domanick buy a new boat?

Jonas 06-08-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WetKitty42
Jonas did Domanick buy a new boat?

no not yet...
did u sell yours???

WetKitty42 06-08-2004 11:32 PM

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Si Senor

Bought a 36 Apache with Monsterous power & #6's

Jonas 06-08-2004 11:37 PM

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Nice!!!!

docmanrich37 06-09-2004 04:09 AM

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Dan has been very helpfull & understanding but hopefully he doesn't get hosed by anyone.his boat will sell maybe me or someother lucky owner.I've also looked at A/T TODD'S BEST REVENGE but 1 reason i havn't contacted him, in one of his post he said tracey didn't come the boat well i think it would be a good deal if so.lol nice boat.plus my wife says if i buy a 32 then next year i turn around and want $umthing bigger, she right hell she's always right.

randyracer33 06-09-2004 09:10 AM

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Perhaps you should tell the real story here...You let me know on Thursday evening you would fly in on Saturday...In which case I informed you I along with my employees would be at the Jacksonville Poker Run from Friday morning until Sunday evening(hence no time to check the boat)..You still insisted in flying down even though you knew I would not be there and nobody would have time to prep the boat prior to your arrival...In case you have not realized these are Offshore boats which can have problems at any given time..This vessel came directly from Active Thunder to my facility and I was informed the vessel was 100% ready to go...I arranged for a friend of mine to run the boat for you ONLY because you insisted on flying down.Perhaps next time you could give the seller some advanced notice!!!


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