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ChristianGott 06-27-2004 07:54 PM

Active Thunder Flips in LIS
 
At around 5:00 today, a 37' Active Thunder barrel-rolled while entering Branford Harbor. Sources say the boat "must have been doin' ninety". Although this report is unconfirmed, the boat DID flip in a channel, laden with pleasureboaters....a popular performance boating magazine recently stated that we should begin to police ourselves. Maybe this is a wake-up call.
If this is the boat I think it is.....the owner's training was minimal....90 in a channel????..WTF???

ChristianGott 06-27-2004 07:59 PM

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UPDATE: 4 of the 5 passengers were sent to the hospital with injuries.

lucky strike 06-27-2004 08:00 PM

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Well at least it wasn't a Cig!! LOL. Sorry, I hope everyone is ok :( :(.

Shane 06-27-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Gott
At around 5:00 today, a 37' Active Thunder barrel-rolled while entering Branford Harbor. Sources say the boat "must have been doin' ninety". Although this report is unconfirmed, the boat DID flip in a channel, laden with pleasureboaters....a popular performance boating magazine recently stated that we should begin to police ourselves. Maybe this is a wake-up call.
If this is the boat I think it is.....the owner's training was minimal....90 in a channel????..WTF???

First, I hope all are okay and safe. Second, what other people envision as the speed traveled by a "CIGARETTE BOAT" is usually a far cry from reality. And YES, you ARE correct, we MUST drive responsibly with due regard for the safety of others at ALL times!

Cash Bar 06-27-2004 08:03 PM

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Oh Sh@t,
I hope they all went on precautionary terms. I hate to heaar this type of thing. Not good for the industry, not good for the willingness of people to go with.

Thoughts and prayers.

Greg

nolimits 06-27-2004 08:16 PM

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... and here we go again.... Same stuff a few weeks ago on a different thread. We all started talking about it. Talked about our driving and the public preception. Poker Runs, Fun runs and boat today just go to damn fast. Insurance rates and speed limits. I said it then and I say it again, people need to be trained before they get out there and fly around. We need to police ourselves, which means telling folks when they go over the top that they are over the top. etc. Licenses as proof that training has been taken and passed. The thread got real ugly on ended up getting poofed. Make sure that you have all the facts first by the way.

ChristianGott 06-27-2004 08:25 PM

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If this is the boat I think it is, is was good for 80mph. The Sound is a perfect place for a boat like that. Not so sure about the harbor, though. We had our fireworks display last night, and there were quite a few boats still loitering...plus, today was beautiful, busy and crowded...not the best choice of places to be "showing what she can do".

Good point with the "facts". I don't want things to get ugly, it's not my point....just a plug for all to be safe, and doin' it in the right place...
C

btrig 06-27-2004 08:27 PM

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Four hurt when boat capsizes


(Branford-WTNH, June 27, 2004 Updated 6:22 PM) _ Four people were taken to the hospital when the speedboat they were in capsized in Branford Harbor.

The boat went under in the harbor near Parker Memorial Park just before 5:00.

A witness to the accident says the boat made a sharp turn as it entered the harbor and went under.

A total of five people were in the boat. Four of them were taken to Yale-New Haven Hospital. Two of the injuries were believed to be serious.

A fifth person refused medical treatment.

No names have been released.
There is also a video showing the boat partially submerged.

nolimits 06-27-2004 08:29 PM

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I hope all are ok....

ChristianGott 06-27-2004 08:34 PM

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We saw it. The flip was in the mouth of the channel, where an alternate approach meets the channel, a very busy place at 4-5 on a Sunday.

After SeaTow and the police took a crack at moving the boat, a work barge was summoned for the recovery effort.

h2owarrior 06-27-2004 08:44 PM

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Christian, You were close enough to see that it was an Active Thunder, What were the markings on the boat. Colors, names etc. There are not that many AT's out there. If you were close enough to know it was an AT you were close enough to know the above questions. Not trying to be an AH, just very direct, very curious and very concerned :(

boatfreak 06-27-2004 08:52 PM

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You know guys as much as I agree with all of you about our need for caution and being responsible boaters I think our first concern should be for the people involved.
I for one am praying for the people and will save my thoughts on how they got in this position for later.

GO4BROKE 06-27-2004 08:53 PM

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The video said it was a 47' boat. Not that they usually are correct about details like that.

ChristianGott 06-27-2004 09:01 PM

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Hey...
2 brothers who bought a marina near here scored the boat at auction, from what I gather. Very nice value, very nice boat. Graphics are a purplish stripe with an orangish splash on the stern and bow (yes, I'm color-blined, so be patient!). I've only seen the boat once, up close, and I don't remember seeing a name. It's the first year the boat's been around here, and you can count the number of performance boats on your toes, so a boat that nice really stands out. Trust me, if it's not the boat, I'll be the first to apologize for spreading rumors.C


P.S. I think the news was wrong with the size. A friend has a 42' Fountain. This boat is the smaller boat docked right next to the Fountain, at Sylvan Point in Branford.

Comanche3Six 06-27-2004 09:08 PM

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I hope all are ok.
All machines have teeth.

redbuddy 06-27-2004 09:23 PM

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We give our prayers to them here on the west cost for a full recovery.
I am a little nervous now, I have seen a few post's on A/T's rolling.
I am due to pic up a 32' A/T this week, and hope this is just driver error or not the proper training.

Sydwayz 06-27-2004 10:46 PM

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It wasn't me. I hope that all are well. :(

redbuddy... no worries mate. This is the first I have heard of any A/T in a serious accident.

audacity 06-28-2004 08:05 AM

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any more on this one??

dockrocker 06-28-2004 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by redbuddy
We give our prayers to them here on the west cost for a full recovery.
I am a little nervous now, I have seen a few post's on A/T's rolling.
I am due to pic up a 32' A/T this week, and hope this is just driver error or not the proper training.

That's like saying "I've heard about a couple of Corvette's that got into accidents, maybe I shouldn't buy a new Camaro." :rolleyes:

A 32' AT has very little in common with a 37' AVH, other than the name on the side of the boat.

knotpropr 06-28-2004 08:43 AM

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32 AT is a great boat!

knotpropr 06-28-2004 08:43 AM

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32 AT is a great boat - Check out Best Revenge - going strong!

Phantom1 06-28-2004 08:44 AM

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News Update

(Branford-AP) -- Coast Guard officials say five individuals are recovering after being pulled from the water in Branford. It all happened around five o'clock this afternoon.

The Coast Guard says a 25 to 30 foot racing boat pulled into Branford harbor at a high rate of speed. That caused the boat to capsize.

The five individuals were pulled from the water and brought to Branford Point. Then, they were taken to a local hospital.

The Coast Guard says some of the passengers suffered head injuries, but none of the injuries appear to be life threatening.

ActiveThunder 06-28-2004 08:46 AM

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Best I can tell from the one picture, it looks like the 600SC boat.

Was there a poker run or something going on?

Sydwayz 06-28-2004 09:07 AM

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I thought the same thing too Pat. I have not seen it here in VA at all this season. It may have made it up there.

ChristianGott 06-28-2004 09:41 PM

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Last I heard today, 4 in the hospital, one of which is in serious condition.
Their approach to the harbor involves a relatively hard right, into boat wakes. The turbulence may have been too much. What are the steps like on that model? Could they have just lost their "grip", and spun it?

No P-run was taking place, and it was the boat I thought it was.

MitchStellin 06-28-2004 10:41 PM

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I have a 32 AT and if it is trimmed right it will corner like a cat (animal :) It sounds like they were ejected, maybe from a roll or from a high side that launched them. If it was upside down it must have rolled. That must be so scarry in a boat that size. I know I would be a different person if I survived one of these. Hope he can find someone to ride with him again :D Just kidding, I am sure we will find out what really happened, we always do. :D :D

Sydwayz 06-28-2004 11:01 PM

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If its the boat I think it was, it was not a step bottom 37AT.

Rippem 06-29-2004 04:09 AM

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Hoping everyone is O.K. Now, without steps to contribute (blame) to turning instability...can you say idiot? To f**k up that badly in a straight v-bottom (or anything) of that size/weight with a load of passengers? In a crowded inlet or approach? He had to be running too much speed and trim. Hey, I don't mind paying the premiums to protect myself and cover damages/liability from a legit maritime loss...but paying for something like this would appear to be ...this should be pissing every experienced (especially HP) boater off badly! BTW, it'll be interesting to hear if there was alcohol involvement. If there was, only furthering the IDIOT commentary. It'll come out in the wash...

CAP071 06-29-2004 05:06 AM

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:rolleyes: Thank God No one was killed. That's my first thought. Second one is, I wonder if Booze was involved. Third thought, Sounds like pure driver error. People like this guy would get hurt if they were driving a Bayliner. It has nothing to do with what kind of boat this guy was driving. :eureka:

ChristianGott 06-29-2004 07:27 PM

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Latest: 1 fractured skull + 1 with a blood clot on the brain + 1 who saw them "drinking all afternoon" + 1 who wondered who was blasting out of the Thimbles + 1 who saw the crash site littered with beer containers = ONE group of lucky individuals. No one died.

We should, collectively, send them a sympathy card for their loss, and a bill for our soon to be increased insurance premiums. Maybe a bill for increased heat from "The Man", too?

Hydrocruiser 06-29-2004 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dockrocker
That's like saying "I've heard about a couple of Corvette's that got into accidents, maybe I shouldn't buy a new Camaro." :rolleyes:

A 32' AT has very little in common with a 37' AVH, other than the name on the side of the boat.


Nope you have it back wards. It was a couple Camaro's that got into accidents and maybe I shouldn't buy a Corvette. Your logic amazes me!

Most offshore boats have the capability of going faster than many consumer's driving abilities these days. It is really just as simple as that. No more. No less.

Velocity Tom 06-29-2004 08:31 PM

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So what kind size of boat was it !

Jassman 06-29-2004 08:41 PM

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A 47 A.T. :p

docmanrich37 06-29-2004 08:47 PM

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Hope everyone will be alright I don't think these is the time to call the driver names as long as he is all jacked up in the hospital.Don't know all the facts yet. these doesn't look very good since i just bought a 37' AVH on friday.wifes real unhappy now about our boat. "$UMTHING$ GOTTA GIVE"

CAP071 06-29-2004 08:55 PM

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Bottom Line, If he was drinking, he is and always be an assh*le that almost cost him his life, as well as his friends, and as others stated higher ins. rates due to his stupidity.

I'm So Friggin sick of tired of every time someone gets into a high speed boating accident hearing about..... Oh It was the steps. OH it was too fast of a boat. Oh it's that damn beak boat again.

When in all actuality it was probably some drunk idiot who has no idea what type of power he is dealing with, who thought after a 6 pack of booze he could just lay into the throttles putting his life and other lives at stake. But his check book paid for that ride.

toolman 06-29-2004 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich25
Hope everyone will be alright I don't think these is the time to call the driver names as long as he is all jacked up in the hospital.Don't know all the facts yet. these doesn't look very good since i just bought a 37' AVH on friday.wifes real unhappy now about our boat. "$UMTHING$ GOTTA GIVE"

You bought a 37 AVH for Lake Anna???

That would be a BIG FISH IN A SMALL POND!!!

Rippem 06-29-2004 09:12 PM

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CAPO...yea, his checkbook pays for it on the front end...the rest of ours on the backend. Long after "Dangerous Dan" has taken up ATVing, or snowmobiling, or....whatever venue he chooses to continue to blow himself...thinking he's cool. Ya' know...a guy with toys, who's made it. Some wannabe's should never leave the porch. Seen 'em in all arenas, awaiting to kill somebody. Maybe you or me...

docmanrich37 06-30-2004 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by toolman
You bought a 37 AVH for Lake Anna???

That would be a BIG FISH IN A SMALL POND!!!

Bought it for the river & other bigger waters than lake anna. have my 26' cat for the lake on a lift.live & work on the water play somewhere else.

audacity 06-30-2004 06:15 AM

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"Most offshore boats have the capability of going faster than many consumer's driving abilities these days. It is really just as simple as that. No more. No less".....

AND THERE YOU HAVE IT....PERFECTLY SAID!!!!

Jassman 06-30-2004 07:04 AM

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Well Put Audacity. I'm happy with my mid 80's, its enough for me. From all the boats I've owned, my experience level is from 100mph and under, I know my limitations and stick with them. The problem is when alcohol gets involved, everyone , including myself feels your are invisible. I usually have 6-8 people aboard, which is alot of responsibility. I do not drink that much other than a few Crowns or beers :drink: all day unless I know I will be overnighting. Boating is suppose to be fun, and I like drinking as much as the next guy, but it's not worth risking your life as well as your friends aboard or other boaters that may be in your path. I worry about insurance rates, and how high they keep climbing. And lastly, too many accidents this year due to neglect, we definately do not need big brother regulating something that we all enjoy to do. Jeff Jassby


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