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Wasabe 07-01-2004 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
I won't worry until people at the gas station ask me "Is that one a them thar Outerlimits boat?"


LMAO

BROWNIE 07-01-2004 01:53 PM

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For that matter, all the other marks have plenty of people trying to get in their knickers. Hell, Lamboghini costs more, goes faster than Ferrari, BUT IT AIN'T A FERRARI!

Wasabe 07-01-2004 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
For that matter, all the other marks have plenty of people trying to get in their knickers. Hell, Lamboghini costs more, goes faster than Ferrari, BUT IT AIN'T A FERRARI!

Nough said!

BLee 07-01-2004 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knotpropr
Not trying to argue or anything, just commenting on this exact statement:
Build anything you want in any of these fields, and you will NEVER command the price, esteem, market, reputation and pride that goes with THE REAL THING!
OUTERLIMITS BUILT THERE'S AND ARE COMMANDING THE PRICE, PRIDE AND ESTEEM.

Dude, I know. I wasn't being critical at all. :)

This is the problem these days with the board. Everyone is so damn quick tempered thinking someone is jabbing them. RELAX! :drink:

clearcut3 07-01-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knotpropr
Not trying to argue or anything, just commenting on this exact statement:
Build anything you want in any of these fields, and you will NEVER command the price, esteem, market, reputation and pride that goes with THE REAL THING!
OUTERLIMITS BUILT THERE'S AND ARE COMMANDING THE PRICE, PRIDE AND ESTEEM.

Very true.....but it still ain't a cigarette :D :D :drink:

Price: If someone orders a 46 rough rider with 1450's and SSM#6's it will be more than an outerlimits 47' GTX

Esteem: Cigarette still owns this world wide

Market: Outerlimits builds 12 boats per year (currently trying to move up to 24), Cig builds around 85

Reputation: I will refer to GLH's comment

I won't worry until people at the gas station ask me "Is that one a them thar Outerlimits boat?"
Reputation and pride: refer to the above comment

Outerlimits builds a great boat and I have been very impressed with the one's I have been around in person....but it still ain't a cigarette. To some it is better....to most world wide it isn't. It's all a matter of opinion. :)

IDRPSTF 07-01-2004 03:54 PM

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I think Cigarette is getting there second wind!

BARCOASTAL 07-01-2004 03:56 PM

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GLH ended this discussion hours ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GLH 07-01-2004 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasabe
Nough said!

Yup, tough old things those Ferrari's.

Vern 07-01-2004 08:23 PM

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OUTERLIMITS BUILT THERE'S AND ARE COMMANDING THE PRICE, PRIDE AND ESTEEM
Somehow I knew someone from the OL camp would get their panties in a bunch!! :D

CIG3 07-02-2004 07:41 AM

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Heard Martin MArine may no longer be a Cigarette Dealer

OldSchool 07-02-2004 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vern
Somehow I knew someone from the OL camp would get their panties in a bunch!! :D

This should bunch 'em up good. :D :eek: :drink:

Vern 07-02-2004 08:30 AM

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I'd laugh, but you never know when you are going to be on the end of that tow rope, and I don't like to mess with karma. :D

OldSchool 07-02-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vern
I'd laugh, but you never know when you are going to be on the end of that tow rope, and I don't like to mess with karma. :D

Isn't that the truth!! It's all in good fun :D :D

Havasu Cig 07-02-2004 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vern
I'd laugh, but you never know when you are going to be on the end of that tow rope, and I don't like to mess with karma. :D


Ain't that the truth....I was once towed by a jet ski in my last cat. :(

thisistank 07-02-2004 12:34 PM

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Is Cigarette in trouble?? Not compared to the trouble they've seen in the past!

I'd say Cigarette is at the top of their game. I've never seen nicer boats produced by Cigarette than the current models. Everyone criticized the new owner/CEO when he bought Cigarette for wanting to promote the name and brand further and push it out to the masses via murchandise and PR. The boat speaks for it self, plain and simple. He saw Cigarette needed to work on it's image and that's what they've been doing. It's working!

You see alot of Cig's for sale, but look at the years of the boats for sale. They are spread out across almost thirty years!!! What other brand can say that about?? When Cigarette has been building boats that long, you're going to see alot of them for sale.

And I couldn't agree more. The people who can afford the high end/new cigs are moving up quicker, turning over their one to two year old boats to get a new cig with bigger power.

It all comes down to the simpe fact; the masses refer to all offshore racing style boats as "Cigarette boats". The #1 on the name sake is there for a reason.

My .02

Tank

otis311 07-02-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
I won't worry until people at the gas station ask me "Is that one a them thar Outerlimits boat?"


Not only is it a good one, but a very accurate statement

I would dare to say that Cig is in as good a shape as they have been in years with Skip overseeing things. New plant is incredible as is the product they are producing ! And the t-shirts aernt bad either

Jassman 07-04-2004 06:56 AM

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SKIP, has done one hell of a job in just 2 years. It's a group effort, and it showed at the last Miami show. There were some unique features and were exampled 46 RR and Maximus, which I thought were very innovative. New dash layouts, custom seats, and logo on steering wheel. The custom bling bling goes a long way when you are trying to differentiate yourself at the docks. Their paint has improved 100%, so overall you have to give credit to a guy who is a good business man, but also more important has a passion, and it shows in every boat that leaves the factory. Jeff

Allan4 07-04-2004 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DEVIL MAN
Anyone that wants a mint condition used Top Gun should contact me...a 99 with big power that is brand new with dry sump six's....it is a show stopper and at a very competitve price...it won't put you in the poor house like a new TG will.

DMan

DMan...you have the sweetest Cig I have ever seen. I am not in a position to buy your boat, but if it's not too much trouble I would like to get some info on it. I have a few buddies who are snooping, plus I would like to keep the info on hand. I would love to see a Midwest guy pic this thing up.

You can e-mail me at [email protected]

Anyone who has not seen this boat and is currently shopping...this thing is a must see. Just wish I had the dime to buy, very sweet.

Thanks man,

A4 :)


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