'93 Top Gun-reasonable price
 

I am interested in what you may consider a reasonable price for '93 Top Gun, full cabin, Zul 850s with 30 hrs, staggered, No. 5 drives. Boat seems clean.

Thanks

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Is it a Lip-Ship Edition?

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not a Lip Ship edition

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I'm gonna try one more time, and then I give up. This one?

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Hi Steve, nice boat, but not that one either, any ideas on the price?

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BTW, are those for sale?

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It's JR, LS doesn't know how to attach pics! :p. The first one was for sale with Lip-Ship a year or 3 ago. The 2nd one is ZoomnFun (I think) on the board and I heard he re-powered it so maybe its up for sale.

LS JR.

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it is a Kevlar hull, five man drop down bolster seats; one of the bolsters needs fixing....any ideas as far as price range?

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With big power and big drives it's comparable to the ones in the back of powerboat mag for the 120 range, and they should be worth that for that type of drive train. Sound like a nice set-up, does it have a trailer?

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leaking headers...what should I expect?

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Don't forget if you break a #5 prop, and have to replace it it can be VERY expensive!

Leaking headers = New headers + new engines if they leak out,they leak in

Been there done that, it all = $$$

If one goes the other will be right behind it.

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I know where a 93 38 TG, twin 454 420hp trs drives k-planes, 225hrs, trailer

Great condition he is askin 99k but he just wants to get rid of it now.

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oh yeah Fresh water only.

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Ironman,

with what I've been seeing in the market, that is too much money for that setup, but thanks

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That all depends..if it is clean and doesn't need a lot of work that is a good price. Think about what it cost to redo interiors, gelcoat, paint wiring, gauges, dashes, head, freshen power, carpet, add hydraulic steering. You priced anything from Cig lately?

I'd let my 93 go for $120 with the trailer with 525scs and it doesn't need a thing. Lip-ship Kevlar boat.

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I wish I could help with a price, but I can't. Sounds like a nice package. My boat is similarly equipped. I can't say enough for a boat that size, with that power having Speedmasters. Keeping anything else other than Arneson's in one piece is almost impossible. Maybe $5000 for two sets of headers but need to understand severity of "leaks". Just my $.02.--Lou

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Hey Frank,
Why don't you just wait a few months and buy mine. I'm gonna get a new Gladiator no later than Dec.
I think you know the specs, if not let me know.

Greg

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I expect you`ll need new engines.

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a new header gasket.

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Donz what motors and who built them will have alot to do with the price also when was the last time the drive train was gone thru and by who would affect price. Big power with speedmasters is a great set-up, I have owned a couple of boats like that, my buddy put bigger power in his bravo boat and has lost drives and weekends 5 out of the last 6.

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Very costly if something breaks too! :blaster:

LS JR.

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I don`t have any drives on mine :(

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Somewhere in the $80's is more like it.
For $120K you should be able to get a 95-96 Top Gun, Great shape, above stock power on a trailer. Selling price, not asking price

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120k should buy a 97-99 with stock power all day long. i would say keep looking.

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I agree with IDRPSTF and Scott. As some of you know, I've been looking for the right early - mid nineties boat for a few months. I've seen stock power, big power, glass, carbon, kevlar, bravos, SSM, etc, etc. I've had the luxury of not having to hurry a purchase because my boat hasn't sold yet either. There are a lot of boats on the market. The prices start high, but after several months, sometimes years, of no action they tend to drop to what the market is willing to bear. I believe I have a good handle on price ranges for various packages and unfortunately learned the hard way by missing out on a couple of deals.

Most respectfully Vonbongo, you have a nice boat, but it is high at that price compared to others on the market. I say this only to share the hours and hours I have spent looking, talking with owners and comparing other "sales" with what is advertised.

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Hi Gregg,

Missed you in Dania this past weekend. Allen said you were in Atlanta. Good luck with that. PM me with your specs again when you get a chance.

Frank

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No problem, I am in the reverse situation. Plus to upgrade 3 to 5 years for me has no benifit as it is the exact same boat so my only option is to move to a TS and they seem to be in the $180ish range at the bottom end. Good luck in your search!

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You get what you pay for !!!!!
When it comes to a car it's miles and condition.
With a boat it's the condition, & Hours on the drive train.
And how were the hours are put on W.O.T. or EZ. time.
Unless you are going to a twin step, year is not the important factor.
Would you rather have a 1990 mint GUN or a poor condition 1996 Gun ???
Year is just a number on a title, banks will loan you more on a newer anything.
But now start making it the way you want, get out your wallet, DIG DEEP !

Steve

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If You Look Hard You Will Find A Gun For The Right Price. There Is One 4 Sale In Fl. It Is 2000 With 500efi', It Does Not Have The Step Bottom. I Heard It Could Be Had For Around 150k. Also This Boat Has 250hours And No Trailer. Hope This Helps. Scott

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Hey thedonz

What do you think my friend's cig is worth? It is pretty clean from what I remember and was well cared for. It has about 225 hrs decent trailer and a full cover. He just want's to get rid of it now, what should he ask/take for the boat. He won't give it away ( I already asked) but he will work with people. It's never seen salt or a dock for more than a few days. Located in Ohio.

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what drive train does it have and what year is it.

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Ironman,

Like Vonbongo and Lucky Strike said, it is the condition of the hull and hardware that determine the price range. I have seen what's listed and what's sold. As an example a very clean, freshwater '94 with updated guages,throttles, and interior, 502s with 250 B & M blowers with superchillers and low hours, bravos with IMCO gears, hydraulic steering, swim platform, full cover, and tri-axle trailer recently sold for $82k (started months ago in OSO for $119k). There are many factors to look at as far as condition, updates, hardware, etc. Most boats these days take forever to sell. If the wait isn't a factor, then a higher listing price may procure a buyer once the less expensive boats are sold and the supply is consumed. If time is a factor, then aggressive pricing is more important. Most buyers know that no matter what boat you buy, you will need to do some work to it most probably. The hardware needs re-freshing periodically; most important is to have a solid foundation. Good luck

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Nykamp,

I agree completely. Motors from reputable engine builders will increase the value of a boat. Big power and Bravos just don't mix; the drives will fail, its just a matter of when, especially on a heavy boat such as a TG or Apache, whether glass, carbon, or kevlar, accordingly Speedmasters increase the value. Of course the condition of the equipment will affect all of the above.

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IronMan
I know what boat your talking about sits up on st rt 53... My father and I borded that boat a few weeks ago to check it out.. Seemed clean needed a little bit of work.. The trailer it rest upon is that the one it comes with? Also what is the top speed with the 454's??

David

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Low 60's mph....slow boat to China

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There is a difference between someone running their boat hard, and neglect. EVERY performance boat has been ran hard at some point. No one buys a Cigarette or any other performance boat and can say they have never ran over 40mph in it's life.

A person who regularly changes the oils, flushes the boat (salt water), and doesn't cut corners on maintenance can run their boat as hard as they would like. It will be just as good as someone elses that claim they have "babied" theirs, maybe better.

These boats NEED to be ran, and ran hard from time to time. Thats what they are built for, and I mean the engines and drivetrains. Things dry up, stiffen, and eventually crack or break when they get no use. I have been on boats where the owner swears he barely runs the boat, and damn near everything has to be replaced from being old and fragile.

Instead of worrying about if someone liked running their boat fast, worry about how and who maintained the boat. There is where you will find your diamond in the rough.

I would rather buy a boat from someone who ran it often, rather than hardly at all.

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I hear that one!
The four must do's in buying a High Perf. Boat
1. Get a Survey from someone that knows about High Performance boats (Not just someone the bank sends out).
2. Have both engines checked out (Leak Down, Compression tested, Check Risers etc.)
3. Find out what the boat is actually worth (Ask Brokers what simalar boats have sold for. Brokers Know more about boat prices than sellers)
4. Figure out what its worth to you.
Odds are you are going to own the thing for a few years. Do you like the paint? Interior color? Engine package? Do you want or need to change anything?
Buy a boat like buying a vacation home, not a car. The purchase should be fun and exciting, but targetted towards future use and enjoyment, not just dollars saved on the purchase.

Okay, Im stepping down from my soapbox for the night.

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One of my customers has a '92 38TG with fresh 1000HP Tyler Crockett engines & #5 drives he's trying to sell. I was just out on Lake Travis doing some tuning on it. Pretty nice ride at 100! It's advertised in the back of Power Boat magazine. Might be worth making him an offer.

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Bobl,

Is This Boat Posted On The Net Anywhere?

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119,000/obo