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SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-29-2004 02:41 PM

"My Way" Seized in NY. Weapons Found
 
http://www.wnbc.com/news/3689668/detail.html

NEW YORK -- A pleasure boat was boarded and seized in New York Harbor early Sunday, after three weapons, including a machine gun were found on board, the Coast Guard said.

The 45-foot cabin cruiser, "My Way," was boarded after a Coast Guard boat crew spotted it operating without navigation lights near Governors Island around 2 a.m., said Coast Guard spokesman Patrick Montgomery.

The boat's owner, Frank Mele, 52, of Weehawken, N.J., told officials as they were boarding that he was carrying a 12-guage shotgun, a .30 caliber rifle and an AK-47 onboard, Montgomery said.

The boat, which was carrying 22 people, was then taken to a New York Police Department pier in Brooklyn, where Mele was arrested on a gun possession charge and the boat was taken into police custody.

The Coast Guard did not believe the weapons were part of any plot, and was nothing more sinister than someone allegedly carrying guns illegally on a boat, Montgomery said.

"The security net is, of course, much tighter this week, so we are looking much more closely at these things," he added.

Downtown42 08-29-2004 02:45 PM

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Damn, wouldn't want to flip him off!

jmeng 08-29-2004 03:38 PM

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Uhh, is it illegal to have guns on boats in NJ?

Formula Outlaw 08-29-2004 03:48 PM

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New Jersey, New York, and D.C., are three areas where the "liberals" prefer only criminals to have/possess weapons. Law abiding citizens are deemed criminals for mere possession without a permit. Gun laws vary widely state by state.

To be safe, check with the State Police or State Attorney's Office in your state for clarification on legality of weapon possession.

cuda 08-29-2004 03:52 PM

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Here's Formula Outlaw's mailbox. Looks like a freindly place. :)

Shane 08-29-2004 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
New Jersey, New York, and D.C., are three areas where the "liberals" prefer only criminals to have/possess weapons. Law abiding citizens are deemed criminals for mere possession without a permit.

Ain't that the TRUTH! :blaster: These same liberals FORGET that guns are what won us our FREEDOM! Funny how Rosie O'Donnel is against guns etc., but "her" kids body guards carry them! HYPOCRIT! Maybe if she wasn't such a flaming left wing radical, "her" kids wouldn't need protection! :hothead:

Formula Outlaw 08-29-2004 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
Here's Formula Outlaw's mailbox. Looks like a freindly place. :)


When the mailman puts mail in the box, he has to ask himself,
"do I feel lucky".....:D :D

Formula Outlaw 08-29-2004 05:36 PM

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GUN CONTROL:

The ability to place the shots exactly where you intended.......

Shane 08-29-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
GUN CONTROL:

The ability to place the shots exactly where you intended.......

EXACTLY! :eureka:

Comanche3Six 08-29-2004 05:39 PM

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Well, now the terrorists know that they can take the "My Way" without meeting any resistance. Just like they took control over the Commecial jets that struck the World Trade Centers.

bajabob38 08-29-2004 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
New Jersey, New York, and D.C., are three areas where the "liberals" prefer only criminals to have/possess weapons. Law abiding citizens are deemed criminals for mere possession without a permit. Gun laws vary widely state by state.

To be safe, check with the State Police or State Attorney's Office in your state for clarification on legality of weapon possession.


You got that right,I have to wait 8 weeks to get my hand gun :( A guy I work with who lives in PA got his hand gun and a license to carry all in one day :mad:

THRILLSEEKER 08-29-2004 07:48 PM

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Here in Ohio, it varies depending on where you live. I live out in the country and can go and buy shotguns, rifles, and handguns all in one day any day of the week with no permits or liscences. One time I went to a Columbus gun store becase the local dealer didnt have the model of Glock that I wanted, afer I finish up the paperwork the salesman started giving me directions to some government building down town and proceeds to tell me that I have to go there in person and apply for a permit to purchase a hangun within the city limits even though I didnt live there. :eek: :mad: and that I would have to wait a few weeks for the paperwork to process before I could pick up my firearm. :mad: needless to say I walked out.

clearcut3 08-29-2004 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
GUN CONTROL:

The ability to place the shots exactly where you intended.......

Gun control :blaster: is also the ability to hold your weapon with both hands :D

Formula Outlaw 08-29-2004 08:02 PM

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I always enjoy asking the "gun control freaks" why is it that the states with the highest, per capita, ratio of guns to population also have, BY FAR, the lowest crime rates.

Not one of those liberal minded idiot morons has been able to answer that question yet.

My political views are quite simple: don't screw with my guns and don't raise my taxes.

cuda 08-29-2004 08:07 PM

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The thing a criminal fears the most is an armed citizen. He fears it more than prison, the DA, or the police.

My welcoming committee. I dial 3-5-7

bryanspeedracer 08-29-2004 08:25 PM

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Most cruisers carry a small arsenal on board, don't they?

There is no way on God's green earth that I would take a trip for any extended period of time, on my own boat without a firearm.

For me, extended is anthing overnight.

Comanche3Six 08-29-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
The thing a criminal fears the most is an armed citizen. He fears it more than prison, the DA, or the police.

My welcoming committee. I dial 3-5-7

6 inch carbon steel Colt Python. As high in quality as a wheel gun gets!

rjcardinal 08-29-2004 09:03 PM

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There is almost always a gun onboard my boat. I was boarded by the Coast Guard once and the first thing they asked when they came onboard was if there was any firearms onboard. I told him there was and where it was and they said we just wont open that compartment. No big deal in LA.

Ron

rjcardinal 08-29-2004 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
Here's Formula Outlaw's mailbox. Looks like a freindly place. :)

I love the picture. It would be great if the address was 1911!

Ron

Formula Outlaw 08-29-2004 09:32 PM

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I don't go out my front door, ANYTIME, without a pistol, usually my Baretta model 96/.40 calibre.

There are always two firearms on board my boat.

I was once boarded by the CG and asked the same question. I simply answered yes, told them what and where. They thanked me for telling them and that was that. No problem at all.

In Florida you can be "in posession of" without a concealed permit, if it takes two distinct motions to get to the gun AND it is not on your person. As in inside your glove box and inside a cloth gun bag. I have held a concealed permit for over 25 years.

I call the Baretta my America Express Card, I never leave home without it (with two spare clips/loaded with Black Talons).

cuda 08-29-2004 09:44 PM

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The coasties asked me once if I had any weapons. I looked around and said in a low voice, "What do you need?". :)

bryanspeedracer 08-29-2004 09:50 PM

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Now that's humor, Cuda.

THRILLSEEKER 08-30-2004 06:56 AM

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:d

Milord 08-30-2004 07:07 AM

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Wow, I had no idea that a lot of you would carry on your boats. It's such a PIA in Canada to have a hand gun it's not worth the effort. You can only transport a handgun to the firing range locked up, seperately from your ammo I believe. I'm pretty damn sure you can't bring one on your boat.

Audiofn 08-30-2004 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Milord
Wow, I had no idea that a lot of you would carry on your boats. It's such a PIA in Canada to have a hand gun it's not worth the effort. You can only transport a handgun to the firing range locked up, seperately from your ammo I believe. I'm pretty damn sure you can't bring one on your boat.

Milord it is totally different hear in the states. It varies from state to state however so that can make it confusing. Like in NY and California it is very hard to get a permit. In MA it depends on what town you live in and you have to go see the gun controle officer in that town. He determins if you can have one or not and that is apealable. You also have to take a gun safty class. After that you are set and it is a permit to carry concealed. Other states you can just walk in with a license and buy although those states are getting few and far btwn. I rarely carry on my person as I just do not travel to locations that it is needed. Once I had it on the boat as I had gone shooting that AM and it is illegal in MA to leave your run in the car, so I took it out and tossed it in the cabin under the cusions up front. I am amazed that this guy fessed up with machine guns on board. That will be his demize. Not sure why but people get real touchy about machine guns. If you ask me in the hands of the wrong person a machine gun is basically useless. They are hard as hell to shoot (at leaste the ones that I have shot).

Jon

hp500efi 08-30-2004 07:28 AM

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The report say's 22 people were on board? that can't be right? is it?

I never carry a gun, maybe it has something to do with where you live?

Formula Outlaw 08-30-2004 07:32 AM

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Back sometime in the 80's (I think), the US Supreme Court ruled that "home/domicile rights extended to an auto, boat, or airplane.

By Federal Law, whatever is good for your home extends thusly.

Unfortunately, state laws sometimes screw that up. Again check with your individual state. In DC you can stab someone and get off easier than if they catch you carrying concealed a handgun without a permit, which I believe is all but impossible to get there.

I get nervous driving on the interstate either in New York or New Jersey and will not even think about venturing into DC. Any place that gives more thought and consideration to criminals than law abiding citizens, I have absolutely no need to be.

In 91' driving from Maine to Florida, I screwed up and took I-95 through NY city. In going through what I guess was the Bronx, it was like a 3rd world country. Burned out cars, fires burning in 55 gallon drums, people hanging around that I couldn't even tell you what planet they were from. So of course, where did we get stuck in a traffic jam, right in the middle of that mess. Was driving a Saab Turbo SPG with dark tinted windows. Twice groups of 3 approached the car, twice I lowered the window just enough to display the barrel of the Baretta. Twice they turned around and walked away. It was a little nerve wracking. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. Now I always take the Tapan Zee bridge and avoid that "culture".

Ted G 08-30-2004 07:47 AM

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Since it is an NYC new report and most of them wouldn't know a cap gun from a Howitzer I bet it was not a full auto AK. If you were going to have an illegal MG on board it would be well hidden and then you just show them the "decoy" guns. And if you were going to spend the cash and heartache to get a federal MG permit, why would you waste your time with an AK? I think the guy was going for "pizazz factor" and likely had an assault type shotgun, and Garand style .30, and a semi auto AK. Three guys standing on deck with those would tend to make even the most hardened criminals rethink their plan. I think that the farther you get from easy access law enforcement, the more likely you are to find weapons on board a boat. I have traveled on a 72 that could easily equip a platoon and keep them going for a 2-3 hour firefight :D

Strip Poker 388 08-30-2004 07:59 AM

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You never know? :D

Clay Washington 08-30-2004 08:11 AM

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I NEVER carry a gun on my boat, but then I only boat on inland lakes.

If I were to cruise "offshore" in a large cruiser, I would have enough firepower to repel a pirate ship! :)

fund razor 08-30-2004 08:46 AM

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That girls needs eye protection.

I never sling hot lead without glasses.

boot 08-30-2004 08:47 AM

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I assume this boat "My Way " has nothing to do with the turbine boat up north does it ?

As for guns ,,,, My girl friend surprised me the other day with her new " PERMIT TO CARRY A CONSEALED WEAPON " PERMIT !!!! (She lives in PA. )
Then I had to buy her a new gun .......
Now I am getting my NON RESIDENT permit to carry for PA ! I can't get it in NJ where I live but I can get it in PA .... Go figure .....

boot 08-30-2004 08:57 AM

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A lot of larger boats ( yatchs, sport fish ,etc.) carry weapons of some kind . Beleive it or not , there are still real pirates out there ! They don't look like they do in the movies , but they still rob you , kill, you and steal yrou boat and sell it . Several of my brothers friends have had trouble with them off the coast of florida . Figure if your out cruising in a multi million dollar yatch, you are a target ! They say if you are being chased by them , the best thing to do is to run the boat around and destroy it . It is of no value to them at that point . This has worked for 2 people that my brother knows .

As for weapons on board , Get the LARGE flare guns . They work great and are legal everywhere ! Just get a bunch of them ! You point one of those in someones face , they will leave you alone !

bluellama 08-30-2004 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boot
I assume this boat "My Way " has nothing to do with the turbine boat up north does it ?

You are correct Boot, different people, different boats, both "MyWay" the Skater, and "HerWay" the SunSeeker were at the dock in the 1000 Islands this weekend.

R Addiction 08-30-2004 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cuda
The coasties asked me once if I had any weapons. I looked around and said in a low voice, "What do you need?". :)

LMFAO!!!! Cuda you kill me!!! No pun intended :eek:

fund razor 08-30-2004 09:52 AM

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Mossberg makes a really nice stainless steel 12 guage that they sell as a "line launcher."

If I shared waters with a third world country (other than Canada) I would carry one.

But around here I'm ok with the flare gun and driving skills. Besides, every other boat is law enforcement around here.

On Lake Erie the pirates only steal your beer, or occasionally your Bratwurst.
Beware of Packinair. He will board your boat and steal your food.

Milord 08-30-2004 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
Mossberg makes a really nice stainless steel 12 guage that they sell as a "line launcher."

If I shared waters with a third world country (other than Canada) I would carry one.

But around here I'm ok with the flare gun and driving skills. Besides, every other boat is law enforcement around here.

On Lake Erie the pirates only steal your beer, or occasionally your Bratwurst.
Beware of Packinair. He will board your boat and steal your food.


WTF, we are a 3rd world country now? :D

THRILLSEEKER 08-30-2004 11:17 AM

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yeah, here on Erie we just plunder and loot your cooler and offer beads to any woman who wants to walk the plank topless :drink:

ThirdBird 08-30-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cuda
Here's Formula Outlaw's mailbox. Looks like a freindly place. :)

Cuda, sure that's not your mailbox?????? It does say "302" on it!!!!!

fund razor 08-30-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Milord
WTF, we are a 3rd world country now? :D


Just joshin' my Canadian friends. Like to make sure you're paying attention up there.


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