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Old 11-13-2004, 09:29 AM
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Know who you're calling. I received this message yesterday:

We actually received a call last week from the 809 area code.
The woman said "Hey, this is Karen. Sorry I missed you--get back to us quickly.
Have something important to tell you." Then she repeated a phone number beginning with 809. "We didn't respond".

Then this week, we received the following e-mail:

Subject: DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809, 284 AND 876

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T.
DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809

This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary,
especially given the way they try to get you to call.
Be sure you read this and pass it on to all your friends and family so they don't get scammed!
MAJOR SCAM:
Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell you to call an "809" area Phone Number.

This is a very important issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading *extremely* quickly, can easily cost you $2400 or more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it.

We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our attention.
This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lots of money.

There are lots of different permutations of this scam.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:

You will receive a message on your answering machine or your pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be to receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has-been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls.

If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute.
Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,100.00.

WHY IT WORKS:
The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (The Bahamas).
The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a pay-per-call" number.

There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, whereas many U.S. homes that have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, do not work in preventing calls to the 809 area code.

We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize, just disregard the message.

Be wary of e-mail, or calls, asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong.

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam.

Sandi Van Handel
AT&T Field Service Manager
(920)687-904
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I don't believe it. If you check with your carrier, they will tell you
how much per minute to call 809 area code.

The only area code that can code you an undetermined amount of money is
a 900 number.

I think this is an urban legend that goes along with Microsoft paying
people to send out emails.

Even if it was true, the billing would be done by the LEC and the scam
charges are easily removed. Tim, you work for Verizon. Do some
investigation..
I figured I could take Sandi's word for it being as she works for AT&T as a Field Service Manager...

If you find out this information is incorrect Ron, please let us know...
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Facts about the scam

Read on down and they explain how the story changed over the years.
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I did a check in urban legands and it confirmed the info, that's why I deleted my post.

However, I've been in the phone business since 1988 and for the life of me, I don't understand how an 809 number can be converted into a pay per call number. Also, Verizon would quickly remove any bill for $2400, just as they do for 900 number calls.
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Thanks Scott!

Ron,
Perhaps the individual 809 number is routed through a pay per call service?

Routing can do amazing things these days. Call your local cable company or just about any Customer Service for any business for that matter, and you are bound to be speaking to someone in India.

I had to laugh when I called Comcast for service. The 1st person I spoke with spoke clear English and sounded like she was in the United States. What I asked for she said she would have to direct my call to my Local Comcast Customer Service Dept. After a few router tones, suddenly I was speaking to someone of a foreign language...
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