Re: PHANTOM POWERBOATS made in Malta??
 

Will Smith. You know "the wild wild west...... :D

Re: PHAKE POWERBOATS made in Malta??
 

Are you sure that mixed gas stuff hasn't affected you much? :D ... The question was aimed at the slightly excitable Greek chappie...... :D

Re: PHAKE POWERBOATS made in Malta??
 

Yaddah yaddah yaddah, I have not dived mixed gasses for over 3 years now...... Seems you know me and I dont have an idea who you are. :eek:

But yes, on second reading, I see you are right, I thought that someone was questioning Fullers knowledge and background... Duh on me.

Re: PHANTOM POWERBOATS made in Malta??
 

I think he's referring to your petrol mixing experiments!! :D

I know it's been some time since ppl last posted here but i'd like to clarify a few things:

1) There are more than 3 beers made in Malta (in addition to the 3 farsons ones, and a host of beers made locally under license) we have 1565 & Caqnu.

2) Chaudron is not related to Farsons (the brewers of Cisk)

3) Chaudron means nothing in English. it is basically an amalgamation of parts of the family's names:
CHArles, AUDRien, aaRON (duplicate A and R were removed).

4) they might be aqccused of copying other boats, but for the size of their organisation they do one hell of a job. Keep in mind that this is a small family business, not the toy of a multi millionaire. This year they'll even be building a boat for another team.

Got good news for all you chaudron fans! http://www.powerboatp1.com/public/championship.asp

Now that was a weird thread.:D

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. It's Heir not hier.

The British equivalent to Apache arguments...and most tiring one.

I just wondered if anyone knew the exact weight figures for the phantom and c*audron 25. Just wondered how much heavier the splash is?

I wouldn't purchase a chaudron ever. Forget build quality for a minute and look at resale. Do you research a prospective purchases lineage before buying? If you do you will come across these threads and you realize your buying am illegitimate copy (stolen design).

I've seen two copies for sale one a chaudron the other something else. There is a chaudron for sale on boatsandoutboards website. Yellow one and it's been there a while. Basically last years boat 2007 and it has fallen in price dramatically. This less than one year old boat has been reduced to the same price as a 1984 original phantom and it's still there and i put money on it it will not sell for anything like that price.

A 28ft copy (not chaudron) on the same site was up for £8000 after dropping price and not selling for ages with twin yamaha 250's. I doubt you would get a genuine comparable phantom 28 for less than £20thou.

If you try to sell them as the genuine article the purchaser has the right to request a full refund.

One more thing to consider is who owns your boat if there is a legal battle to stop the copying?

Some real hardcore info about Phantom
 

For those who would like to be enlightened,

Peter Peake and Will Smith are the only two people who make phantoms. Will Smith is the US distributor as well as the designer while Peter is the builder and distributor for the Caribbean and builds the boats in Trinidad and Tobago.

Will has certain specs for the states which are on the website while Peter has made many customizations and has molds for a 20', 34', 40', and a 50'

Will also has some of these molds but they are all available if you contact either of them.

Will is based in Sarasota, FL
Peter in Chaguaramas, Trinidad and Tobago.

Peter does not run under the company name Phantom Powerboats but him and Will are the sole 2 builders of the boats and Peter owns Peake Yacht Services.

So if you live in the Caribbean call Peter, if the States call Will. Either same great product. I know Peter and Will very well and i own 3 phantoms all quickly built to perfection and not too expensive.

chaudron company has just won for the second time the p1 championship.in my opinion they have the best hull in the world.
regards
robert

heq...hmm. the Donzi's are faster , this year it was a matter of luck. If it wasn't for unlucky overspeeding penalties, baia would have taken it.

I do not want to take credit from chaudron but "NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD"