Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
11-26-2004 | 07:26 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
I've gone both way's. (Did I say that). I have to say, I like both. I saw a Skater for sale with 4 2.5's on it. I think that would be neat, but then I have a hard time keeping 4 light bulbs lit in my bathroom. Packin, What kind of boat is that in the Pic? Doug
11-26-2004 | 07:44 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
Originally Posted by Spicy
Dockrocker, E-mailed pixs..... Thanks, Pat
I've been on Spicy's boat and it's a very nice boat. If that's the way that you and your family want to go, it doesn't make you a bad guy!!
When I saw this thread, I thought that some of those SCOPE people had been in contact with you in a recruiting effort for "The Dark Side"!!!!
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11-26-2004 | 08:12 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
Hey Dockrocker.....
I grew up with outboards and now I have a Formula with big blocks. Sometimes I wonder what I did by leaveing the "dark side" Anyway here a few Center Consoles that are very nice and might be worth looking into. Send me a PM if you are interested. Good Luck!!
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I grew up with outboards and now I have a Formula with big blocks. Sometimes I wonder what I did by leaveing the "dark side" Anyway here a few Center Consoles that are very nice and might be worth looking into. Send me a PM if you are interested. Good Luck!!
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11-26-2004 | 08:27 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
The Dark side ? never been there
There are some tuff motors , the one thing that impressed me was the rods in them , with needle bearings , there built kinda like the jap motorcycles.
There are some tuff motors , the one thing that impressed me was the rods in them , with needle bearings , there built kinda like the jap motorcycles.
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11-26-2004 | 08:32 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
Originally Posted by dockrocker
With two young'ns (one will be 3 and one 8 months when boating season hits) we're trying to balance "family" with "performance". Formula SS series are nice, but a little too cruiser, and the only ones in our price range are the 28' - I'd like something bigger. So... I'm thinking about a Concept or similar. Run 60+, big cockpit for the kids to run around in, enough cabin for them to take a nap (we *never* overnight), gas-and-go convenience (2 kids means *no* time to mess with the boat). One of my big concerns is wind protection up here in the land of 65 degree boating days, but maybe Leopajm will chime in with some first hand experiences... 
Still just kicking the idea around, all the input is appreciated!
Still just kicking the idea around, all the input is appreciated!
) and the open deck of the CC does get a bit windy at speed (good on the hot days, tough on the cool ones)... As far as the kids go , mine are 5 and 2 now and the open lay out is great for them as long as it's not too rough ... Performance wise ... if you can run around 60 "comfortably" you'll be surprised at how many other "go-fast" boats you'll be able to run with most of the time. If you want a good "all around , low upkeep" boat that does ALOT of things well , you will have a hard time beating a 36 Concept . The FUN factor is way up there , and the BULL**** quotient is zero ! Have Fun Shopping !!!JM
11-26-2004 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
outriggers - packinairs boat is a Sanger AlleyCat. pretty cool boat and flys like crazy. i wasnt much for outboards till he got his. it has a very cool sound to it but he has the exhaust tuned.
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11-26-2004 | 08:41 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Mike ... we've had ours about a year now and love it !!! However , my wife would also rather have the 400SS (i think most women would ) and the open deck of the CC does get a bit windy at speed (good on the hot days, tough on the cool ones)... As far as the kids go , mine are 5 and 2 now and the open lay out is great for them as long as it's not too rough ... Performance wise ... if you can run around 60 "comfortably" you'll be surprised at how many other "go-fast" boats you'll be able to run with most of the time. If you want a good "all around , low upkeep" boat that does ALOT of things well , you will have a hard time beating a 36 Concept . The FUN factor is way up there , and the BULL**** quotient is zero ! Have Fun Shopping !!!
JM
) and the open deck of the CC does get a bit windy at speed (good on the hot days, tough on the cool ones)... As far as the kids go , mine are 5 and 2 now and the open lay out is great for them as long as it's not too rough ... Performance wise ... if you can run around 60 "comfortably" you'll be surprised at how many other "go-fast" boats you'll be able to run with most of the time. If you want a good "all around , low upkeep" boat that does ALOT of things well , you will have a hard time beating a 36 Concept . The FUN factor is way up there , and the BULL**** quotient is zero ! Have Fun Shopping !!!JM
As for the wind, I'm wondering if you put two little plexiglass "doors" between the gunwales and the console, would that break up the wind for those in the rear bench seat? A lot of bowriders have a similar windblocker for the walkway between the consoles, seems like it should work for a CC as well.
11-26-2004 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
Hey dock, how about a 33 powerplay w/ tripps?
There are a few for sale...
Huge cockpit... racy looks... and big cabin.
Will do 70???
There are a few for sale...
Huge cockpit... racy looks... and big cabin.
Will do 70???
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11-26-2004 | 08:49 AM
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Re: Is it worth it to go over to the dark side?
I'm going through the change myself right now...
I took a deposit on my pantera (Twin Big Block B1s)..
And am working for Evinrude..
I am on my demo boat about three times per week...
Twin 225s... Yeah, I know, it's a fishing boat..... But we're talking about making the switch from BB to OB...
It's taking a bit tetting used to the OBs...mainly around the dock...
These OBs Idle at 500rpm, and shift so smooth... I find myself wondering if I'm moving, in gear, running...
You have no doubt, with a big block if the thing is in gear, or idling.... It's more predictable in my opinion.
This boat weighs 8500 with fuel and people. I'll put my money on this boat for a drag race against a lot of performance boats... (Two strokes have a lot more torque than 4 stroke anythings) Top end is only 56..but look at the boat...
Fuel consumption is a small fraction of that of the big block... This boat will burn 20 GPH at WOT!!!!!! WOT!
One more common thing in many OB boats.. Throttle and shifter in one... Terrible..
Maintenance... OBs have far far far less to worry about.
In the Evinrude ETec...
No service, none for 300 hours.
No break in period
Self draining when the key is off.
Self winterization/fogging mode
524 lbs
Yeah, I miss running two big blocks sometimes..but the gains are worth more than the losses..
Please don't laugh at my boat.. It's my company demo..I didn't buy it.. (and I don't have to pay for it)
I took a deposit on my pantera (Twin Big Block B1s)..
And am working for Evinrude..
I am on my demo boat about three times per week...
Twin 225s... Yeah, I know, it's a fishing boat..... But we're talking about making the switch from BB to OB...
It's taking a bit tetting used to the OBs...mainly around the dock...
These OBs Idle at 500rpm, and shift so smooth... I find myself wondering if I'm moving, in gear, running...
You have no doubt, with a big block if the thing is in gear, or idling.... It's more predictable in my opinion.
This boat weighs 8500 with fuel and people. I'll put my money on this boat for a drag race against a lot of performance boats... (Two strokes have a lot more torque than 4 stroke anythings) Top end is only 56..but look at the boat...
Fuel consumption is a small fraction of that of the big block... This boat will burn 20 GPH at WOT!!!!!! WOT!
One more common thing in many OB boats.. Throttle and shifter in one... Terrible..
Maintenance... OBs have far far far less to worry about.
In the Evinrude ETec...
No service, none for 300 hours.
No break in period
Self draining when the key is off.
Self winterization/fogging mode
524 lbs
Yeah, I miss running two big blocks sometimes..but the gains are worth more than the losses..
Please don't laugh at my boat.. It's my company demo..I didn't buy it.. (and I don't have to pay for it)
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