V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
12-11-2004 | 02:05 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
Originally Posted by thedonz
there is no way of comparing a non step boat to a step bottom boat. yea if ya want to go fast with little power in 1-3 foot chops yea or in lakes and stuff ok. but if ya want to play with real mother nature (3-5 foot chop and plus which is where the fun begins) like the ocean or lakes like lake Michigan then there's no way a step bottom boat can handle the waters like a non-step boat. for some reason the new Apache are non-step
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12-11-2004 | 05:25 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
Originally Posted by lucky strike
Step bottoms in 3-5s? They do just fine. Ask Gary about the Saturday run he made during the Miami Show.
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12-11-2004 | 05:35 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
i never said they cann't do it all i'm say there no comparison. i mean anything could do anything my 17 boston whaler could run it also. what i mean is that t/s hull cann't run it as well as a non step hull. and to correct what cigarette 1 said. i have never but never said that a cigarette cann't do it. there is nothing that a cigarette or apache cann't do. i just think that non-step handle a lot better in big chops, but don't turn at 65-70 mph if ya don't know what i'm doing. i hope i didn't disrespect anyone. just my 002.
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12-11-2004 | 05:45 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
Originally Posted by thedonz
i never said they cann't do it all i'm say there no comparison. i mean anything could do anything my 17 boston whaler could run it also. what i mean is that t/s hull cann't run it as well as a non step hull. and to correct what cigarette 1 said. i have never but never said that a cigarette cann't do it. there is nothing that a cigarette or apache cann't do. i just think that non-step handle a lot better in big chops, but don't turn at 65-70 mph if ya don't know what i'm doing. i hope i didn't disrespect anyone. just my 002.
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12-12-2004 | 12:08 AM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
Animalhouse, ok run certain step bottoms at 110 + in following seas at a 45 degree angle to the boat and tell me what happens.....the step on one side of the boat will catch on the waves before the other and wiggle the stern..you'd better correct for it, fast, and that would freak me out.
I have had my moments of weakness on this, but have decided 'll take a non step any day thanks. If I move up it will be a non stepped Sonic 42 or Apache 41, period. And yes, they won't be as fast as a stepped bottom boat and I don't care. Besides I can't afford either right now. <gg>
I have had my moments of weakness on this, but have decided 'll take a non step any day thanks. If I move up it will be a non stepped Sonic 42 or Apache 41, period. And yes, they won't be as fast as a stepped bottom boat and I don't care. Besides I can't afford either right now. <gg>
12-12-2004 | 04:21 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
2 things, the latest edition of robb report has an article on the new 39, and if anybody has questions on step bottom performance in rough water, ask jassman about his rough water ride.
different conditions require different driver input no matter what type of boat you run, step or non step, hoewver differnt step bottom configurations act differently.
take cig and fountain for example. their steps curve toward the front, although that adds speed in smmoth flat water, it does create some problems turning in the rough water.
different conditions require different driver input no matter what type of boat you run, step or non step, hoewver differnt step bottom configurations act differently.
take cig and fountain for example. their steps curve toward the front, although that adds speed in smmoth flat water, it does create some problems turning in the rough water.
12-12-2004 | 07:20 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
Originally Posted by 27Fountain
Is it me or do some new boats seem to be increasing their speed allot. For example the following models I think have been running 100mph with just twin 525s. Just a few years ago no one seemed to be able to do 90 with 500efis and now we are over 100?? I mean damn. Is it because the boats are lighter? More effecient hull?
Fountain 40
Outer Limits 39
Dragon 39
Hustler 344
If you know of others please add them
WILL
Fountain 40
Outer Limits 39
Dragon 39
Hustler 344
If you know of others please add them
WILL
12-12-2004 | 09:18 PM
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Re: V Hulls running 100+ w/525s
During the Ft.Laud show Sandy and I had the opportunity to ride with Mike Fiore, Fred and Jason for a test ride on a Epoxy triple 525/bravo 42 OL. All I can say is... Best ride I honestly ever had going 80-84mph in 5-7 seas, and they were not rollers, this water was down right nasty. These OL are set up to run, and can definatly take a pounding. The boat when aired out landed level everytime, very impressive. No other step boat or non step bottom boat, that I have ever been on, would I have felt that secure in those type of water conditions. Jeff
