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Max Tow Capacity Z-71 Suburban V-8
Looking at different boat options for 05 and have a lease until Spring 06 cant afford different boat and truck at the same time.
I have Z-71 package Suburban 2004. V-8 nothing special. Trying to figure out Max Tow Capacity, the manual is about a clear as mud. I have been told if you have an accident and your over weight the insurance for boat and truck are not valid :eek: Help needed --- If the news is bad anyone want to take over a lease on a Z-71 :D |
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What are your lease details? Details of the truck? I have a lowly Ford Exploror and am need of a tow vehicle upgrade. Used to live in Belleview MI. (worked for Visteon, hence the Explorer)
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Z71 1SL
• Z71 Off-road Suspension • Heated front bucket seats with leather seating surfaces • AM/FM stereo with in-dash six-disc CD changer • Auto-dimming driver's side mirror Exterior: Black Interior: Tan/Neutral Custom Leather Seating Surfaces Seat Type: Seats, front leather seating surfaces power reclining full-feature buckets, includes adjustable head restraints, floor console, driver and passenger power lumbar, driver and passenger 10-way power adjustable, inboard armrests, heated driver and passenger seat cushion and seatbacks, power bolsters, 2-position driver-side memory and storage pockets and (JF4) Pedals, power adjustable • Air cleaner, high-capacity (K47) $0.00 • Air conditioning, tri-zone, automatic, individual climate settings for driver, right front passenger and rear passengers, includes front and rear HVAC systems (CJ2) $0.00 • Body, rear cargo panel doors (ZW9) $0.00 • Bumper, rear, painted step, includes pad (V43) $0.00 • Cargo Package, includes (RYJ) cargo shade, (AP9) cargo net, (B39) cargo mat and (V1K) luggage rack center rails (PDC) $0.00 • Cooling, external transmission oil cooler, auxiliary, heavy-duty air-to-oil (KNP) $0.00 • Cruise control, electronic with set and resume speed, includes telltale in instrument panel cluster (K34) $0.00 • Defogger, rear-window, electric (C49) $0.00 • Differential, locking, heavy-duty, rear (G80) $0.00 • Driver Convenience Package, includes Universal transmitter, Power adjustable pedals and (UK3) Steering wheel mounted controls for audio and driver information center (PDH) $350.00 • Emissions, Federal requirements (FE9) $0.00 • Engine, Vortec 5300 V8 SFI Flex-Fuel, capable of running on unleaded or up to 85% ethanol (295 HP [219.7 kW] @ 5200 rpm, 330 lb.-ft. [445.5 N-m] @ 4000 rpm) (L59) $0.00 • Entertainment system, rear seat, includes DVD player with remote control, overhead display, 2 sets of wireless infrared headphones, auxiliary audio/video jacks, remote game plug-in and mute button in overhead console (U42) $1,485.00 • Floor covering, color-keyed carpeting (B30) $0.00 • Glass, Solar-Ray deep tinted, (all windows except light tinted glass on windshield, driver and front passenger) (AJ1) $0.00 • Mirrors, outside rearview, power folding, power adjustable, heated, color-keyed, driver side electrochromic (light-sensitive auto dimming), turn signal in glass, with ground illumination and curb-tilt (DL3) $0.00 • Off road appearance package *wheel flares *locking rear differential *skid plates *17 x 7.5 aluminum wheels *p265/70r17 bw oor tires *color keyed exterior *z71 suspension *16x6.5 aluminum spare *special rocker moldings *wheel caps & lug nut covers *luggage rack *fog lamps *front air dam *tubular assist steps (BPH) $0.00 • OnStar, 1-year Safe and Sound Service, includes automatic notification of air bag deployment, emergency services, roadside assistance, stolen vehicle tracking, AccidentAssist, remote door unlock, remote diagnostics, online concierge and remote horn and lights. Drivers can also opt for other available OnStar services, including making and receiving voice-activated, hands-free phone calls with Personal Calling and getting location-based traffic and weather reports with Virtual Advisor (UE1) $0.00 • Pedals, power, adjustable (JF4) $0.00 • Preferred equipment savings (1SZ) $0.00 • Rear axle, 3.73 ratio (GT4) $0.00 • Recovery hooks, 2 front, frame-mounted (V76) $0.00 • Seats, middle leather appointed 60/40 split-folding bench, 3-passenger with center armrest and rear passenger easy entry (AT5) $0.00 • Seats, rear 3rd row vinyl bench, 3-passenger, 1-piece removable (AS3) $0.00 • Six-way power driver seat (AG1) $0.00 • Skid Plate Package, off-road, with aluminum front underbody shield starting behind front bumper and running to 1st cross-member protecting front underbody, oil pan, differential case and steel transfer case frame-mounted shields (NZZ) $0.00 • Sound system feature, XM Satellite Radio, is 100 channels of digital quality sound that goes wherever you go - coast to coast. Displays song title, artist and entertainment genre. (U2K) $325.00 • Sound system, ETR AM/FM stereo with in-dash 6-disc CD changer, includes seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, speed-compensated volume, TheftLock and Radio Data System (RDS) (UC6) $0.00 • Spare tire lock (SAF) $0.00 • Steering wheel, mounted controls, includes audio and driver information center controls (UK3) $0.00 • Suspension Package, Off-Road, includes 1.81" (46 mm) gas shocks, off-road jounce bumpers, (NZZ) Skid Plate Package, (K47) Air cleaner, high capacity and Z71 badge (Z71) $0.00 • Tires, P265/70R17, on-/off-road, blackwall (QJP) $0.00 • Trailering equipment, heavy-duty, includes trailering hitch platform, 7-lead wiring connector, (KNP) Cooling external transmission oil cooler, trailer brake pre-wire harness and 7-way to 4-way adapter (Z82) $0.00 • Transfer case, electronic Autotrac, includes push-button controls (NP8) $0.00 • Transmission, 4-speed automatic, electronically controlled with overdrive and tow/haul mode (M30) $0.00 • Wheel flares, front and rear (refer to Color Compatibility chart for Matte Black vs. color-keyed wheel flares) (B71) $0.00 Total MSRP:* $49,065.00 MSRP: $46,465.00 Color & Options: $2,600.00 Total MSRP:* $49,065.00 |
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Nice truck. How many miles on it? How much is the lease? Time remaining etc.
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If it's a 1500 (half ton) Suburban, I believe that the max tow rating is 7000 lbs. It should be in your manual- you need to know what rear axle ratio that you have.
Craig |
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Originally Posted by mneal
Nice truck. How many miles on it? How much is the lease? Time remaining etc.
Brad |
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Originally Posted by craig223
If it's a 1500 (half ton) Suburban, I believe that the max tow rating is 7000 lbs. It should be in your manual- you need to know what rear axle ratio that you have.
Craig It has 3:73 ? I think... Pulling 12K - 13K not recomended huh |
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I think the newer ones might be 7500, however coming from experience, you don't want to do long tows with it. It struggles at times with that much weight.
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3.73 will be less towing capacity.
Look on your build sticker on the glovebox (I think). If you see GT4= 3.73 rear. If you see GT5= 4.10 rear. |
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Local towing within a couple hundred miles or so you'll be fine. But you would'nt want to tow it to the west coast, or through any mountains.
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Originally Posted by Fightclub
It has 3:73 ? I think...
Pulling 12K - 13K not recomended huh |
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Pulling 12 to 13k not even a chance...maybe down the driveway! You can pull a ski boat or 24 baja. That truck can just about fend for itself and the ins. co. have all smartened up in the last 2 years with this stuff.
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I've got an 03 2500 suburban 6.0L and 3.73. Chevy says it's rated at 7,600lbs. Rating goes to 9,600 with 4.10. I have hauled 12,000 lbs for local trips and it's ok, but 70 on the interstate is it unless you stay in the passing gear. Not sure about a 1/2 ton, but it's probably only a little less. (Huge difference in how much tongue weight it will carry!)
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You will be able to tow 12K no problem. You will have to modify your boat trailer with another trailer attached to it to also haul around your 3 extra transmissions for your truck.
I tow a 29 Fountain with an 01 Denali and I am on my third tranny. Go diesel. |
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sold my z-71 because i was over towing cap, rated for about 7600 lbs,was about 500 lbs over that,towed that thru west virginia thought the thing was going to puke!
traded in after that trip. |
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I know. To get off my a#s and buy the full on membership..in fact I think I will make it my new years resolution. In the meantime my email is: [email protected]
Thanks. |
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I know from expirience, not much more than a wave runner. The back suspension is WAY mushy pulling a trailer. If it starts to sway your screwed.
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Fightclub....... i had to sell my beloved Suburban for the same reason. You won't even be close to being able to tow that much safely. I tried to talk myself into it for weeks, and it all came down to having something happen and the insurance company laughing at me.
Finally the wife said no new boat if you don't get a bigger truck. That's all i needed. 2500HD crew cab duramax came home with me. I can tell you, i've had 3 suburban's and loved them all, but none of them even will come close to the power and stability this thing has got. It's crazy how good the brakes are compared to the sub. Just quit trying to convince yourself and doit. It only hurt watching it go....... :( |
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Now has a 6" lift and 35" tires and "she pulls" :D
MAGNACHARGER! Cant upload pic..oh well 390flb to the wheels :eek: |
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One last idea :eureka:
Air bags and change the gears? Remeber it's lease not mine :D My max tow would be Northern Michigan! Heck if I can swing the boat I want I could launch in Grand Haven and go by water to the north :drink: All kidding aside would bags and gears work? Brad |
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No!
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Originally Posted by t500hps
I've got an 03 2500 suburban 6.0L and 3.73. Chevy says it's rated at 7,600lbs. Rating goes to 9,600 with 4.10. I have hauled 12,000 lbs for local trips and it's ok, but 70 on the interstate is it unless you stay in the passing gear. Not sure about a 1/2 ton, but it's probably only a little less. (Huge difference in how much tongue weight it will carry!)
Russ C. Russ C. |
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Does it make me schizophrenic for quoting myself? Or was 1 side of my brain unable to get the point across as well as the other side? :rolleyes: :argue:
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Originally Posted by t500hps
Also, I hauled this same 12,000 load from Cleveland to VA with a 04 6.0L diesel F350 and didn't know the load was back there. I currently have a 10,000 boat, trailer, gear and it can get a little squirrely. Forget the bags and gears....step up when you can do it right or find a marina w/ on-site storage.
Russ C. I agree, didnt do a lot of research when I got the Suburban, just does not have the capisity I need. I could alway's keep it and pick up a late model Duelly. Thanks for all the help gang, Just a bad idea to pull with it when over weight. |
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Originally Posted by Fightclub
One last idea :eureka:
Air bags and change the gears? Remeber it's lease not mine :D My max tow would be Northern Michigan! Heck if I can swing the boat I want I could launch in Grand Haven and go by water to the north :drink: All kidding aside would bags and gears work? Brad |
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If you can afford to pay for your boat and suburban cash, and then hand the keys and title to a perfect stranger and say 'keep it', then yes, you can tow it with your suburban with bags and gears.
Insurance will kill ya. It's not you you have to worry about, it's the other guy that hits you. They aren't playin anymore. Anything that happens will mean they drop you, and you are left with nothing... |
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Originally Posted by Madmax
If you can afford to pay for your boat and suburban cash, and then hand the keys and title to a perfect stranger and say 'keep it', then yes, you can tow it with your suburban with bags and gears.
Insurance will kill ya. It's not you you have to worry about, it's the other guy that hits you. They aren't playin anymore. Anything that happens will mean they drop you, and you are left with nothing... WTF. If I am going to go into debt on the boat might as well throw in a used truck also :drink: If I ever go down I want to go BIG! |
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I think the Z-71 only comes in the 1/2 ton.... and you will need the 3/4 ton for sure!!!
I have used 1/2 ton surburbans for towing before (at the time a 23 & 30ft Velocity) and the 1/2 ton Suburban was toped out with them!!! (the 30ft weighed @ 6500lbs) I towed with 2wd and 4wd and even a lifted 4wd. All I can say is don't lift it!!! If the trailer has any sway, you will be pulled all over the road!!! The weak point in the tranny like someone said before!! If you really want that style of truck go 3/4ton or try the ford Excursion w/ the powerstroke.... This is from a chevy guy!!!! |
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Wait, the most important question is how much are you planing on towing????
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Originally Posted by FunHome
Wait, the most important question is how much are you planing on towing????
Not 100% sure yet, but my best guess is 38ish feet. Weight should be around 12K #'s with the trailer. My current boat is 29' and near 8K with trailer, my suburban is stressed out from pulling it on hilly terrain this summer. Good thing I leased it because I wouldnt want to own it long term. The Z-71 is a kick butt vehical but it's more of a socer mom truck than a tow vehical. fightclub. |
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Go for the 2500 Suburban with the 8.1L gas engine and 4L85E 4spd Auto Transmission. Its rated to tow 12K lbs with a 4.10 rear end. I have the exact same running gear with my 2500 Avalanche, now with 25K miles on it. I used to tow 7K lbs. I now tow 12K+ lbs. I love the truck. I'll buy a dually someday, but this truck really suits the bill right now.
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Fightclub:
Be smart and rent a dually from McDonald truck rentals for pulling a 38 footer. Cheaper than paying for the depreciation/insurance/maintenance on a used dually. I believe your truck is rated to pull about 7000 lbs w/ 3.73. The 4.10 is not going to get you to 12k only a 2500 w/ 8.1 and a 4.10 which I have with in my Avalanche. Plus the brakes and transmissions are much heavier on a 2500. Alternative, upgrade the lease to 2500 and see what the "hit" would be. Wannabe |
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Going to be towing my Formula at 8500# plus trailer at 2400# wiht my 2500 Suburban with 6.0L and 4.10 rear. Can the suburban handle the load without a load levelling hitch and just usig the hitch that came with the trailer package from the factory?
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Originally Posted by powerguy
Going to be towing my Formula at 8500# plus trailer at 2400# wiht my 2500 Suburban with 6.0L and 4.10 rear. Can the suburban handle the load without a load levelling hitch and just usig the hitch that came with the trailer package from the factory?
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Originally Posted by Madcow
Not a chance. That hitch is rated for 5000 lbs, you weight to more than double that. Whats the tow raiting ob the 2500? If something happens and you've exeeded weight, your insurance will not pay. I had an accident towing a year ago, and my insurance company verified my trailer weight with a vengence.
2500 with 6.0 is rated at 9600# |
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
Go for the 2500 Suburban ....
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Fightclub:
Be smart and rent a dually from McDonald truck rentals for pulling a 38 footer. Cheaper than paying for the depreciation/insurance/maintenance on a used dually. I believe your truck is rated to pull about 7000 lbs w/ 3.73. The 4.10 is not going to get you to 12k only a 2500 w/ 8.1 and a 4.10 which I have with in my Avalanche. Plus the brakes and transmissions are much heavier on a 2500. Alternative, upgrade the lease to 2500 and see what the "hit" would be. Wannabe |
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There is no way you can tow that kind of weight with a K1500. I had a 1998 K1500 towing a 33' Powerplay. I figure the boat (fueled) and trailer weighed ~10,000 pounds. It really overloaded my Suburban. The truck was really unsafe towing on the highway. As mentioned in previous postings your hitch will read 11,000 pounds but your truck is only rated for 7000.
Now I'm towing with a 4X4 PSD Excursion. Night and day difference........ Mike |
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[QUOTE=Sydwayz]Go for the 2500 Suburban with the 8.1L gas engine and 4L85E 4spd Auto Transmission. Its rated to tow 12K lbs with a 4.10 rear end.
I have this exact vehicle and love it. It will pull up any hill and never labor. Gas mileage isn't too awful either - 14 mpg higghway -0nly 7 with the boat behind. |
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Powerguy:
GM puts cheap hitches on from the factory. upgrade to a Putnam class 5 about $160 add air helper springs and you are fine. You have the 2500 so the trans and brakes, etc are fine. Wannabe |
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