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hi , new here , looking for info to repower my30 wellcraft. it's a older scarab with trs drive. who is good ? i read hot and power boat magazine. they have good motor builder articals. i saw zul , teauge , tmp , sterling , and pfaff, i know there are others , only need 600h p .

j givono

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my brother tried to get on here the other day , he said he was here ,but something i think happened with ritalen?? thanks.

j givono

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You've got a good list but you should definitely check out Chief. Tommy is a very straight shooter.

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Derebery Performance builds a 540ci 600Hp. They have been making in the 630's HP but calling it 600HP. They have a serpentein belt drive system and look a lot like a Merc 500EFI. They just finished a 35 Cigarette with these engines and TRS, very nice setup.
www.dereberyperformancemarine.com

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Go w/ 525's from Mercury Racing, but you're talking big bucks.

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You can have a better engine built with a warranty by a good builder for less than what you'd spend on the Mercs. Infomaniac on the boards builds some sick engines too. http://marineassault.net/ is his website I believe. Really good guy too. :D

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yeah , the mercs are high , i read that zul doesn't do efi though , chiefs are killer 2. a few years ago i saw a cat called miss fitsz that had chiefs , it sounded bad. i am on the gulf coast. :D

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the search here is fast! i am new here ,very new ,but i did a search to see what tmp and this is from 2002. this can 't be true right ? this guy steven emmons is in powerboat , they said he was 23 or 24 , i have the mag at my parents boathouse. here he says's they have been building engines over 20 years. is this true?? i don't want to get burned , these motors are not cheap , i have been saving up for a long time. i think i will stay away from this guy. i hpe no one gets mad at me if i don't buy from this emmons guy.


yearshttp://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36451&highlight=totalmp

j givono

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I am 24 yrs old, and have been around race boats since I was born. My grandfather and father raced flatbottoms, and eventually we moved into offshore boats. My partner grew up building and racing boats as well. He is 35. The majority of our staff are older than us, and we all have numerous years of experience. The biggest reason our engines work so well is that all of our experience is in real applications. We also both have college degrees and strong computer backgrounds.
Don't be so quick to judge our program without speaking to one of the several board members we've built engines for, or if you'd like, we'd be happy to fly you to our facility, and let you see our engines in action.
Or, you could check us out at the Miami show, where we'll have 6 1200+ HP EFI engines, as well as a 650 EFI that would work great in your boat. Dustin Whipple will be at the booth with us, and I'm sure he'd be happy to vouche for our engine program.
Also, our engines come with a 1 yr warranty and are very competitively priced.

Feel free to call me personally, should you have any questions or concerns.

Thanks,

Steve Emmons

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Porkchop, where are you located?

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hi , i am in southwest la , east texas , and west florida , originally from cali , my parents are inventory controllers, they go to mostly these states. i help out on occasion. mr ,tmp , i am sorry if you don't like what i typed, this is stuff that you said in the mag and typed yourself here on oso. all i did was a search on TOTALMP. my cousin raced flat bottom boats years ago when i was a kid, , what boats did you race ? what teams were you associated with?i am just posting what you said in powerboat mag . so ,you have been building race motors since you were born? i find that hard to belive. i called apba hq in detriot , they have no record of you ever competing in any catogory. gotta get back to inventory. breaks over ! check back in a little while .

j givono

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Hey Porkchop do you have a bone to pick or is it just me? You asked a question, and now start going after people? What gives?

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Glad to know you've got such an interest in me. The team was called stiletto and consisted of SST 45 and 140, 5 liter hydro's, and modified cat offshore. I was obviously very young at the time. Its apparent you're not buying anything.
As far as racing, I'm sure you'll be glad to know that we'll be making a few races with the new 36' Cat we're building as well as possibly building supercat engines for one of the teams in OSS.
If you searched totalmp, then you obviously know what we build and that it works. I'm sure you saw the posts that some of our customers posted, as well as the dyno #'s we're making.

Nevermind, you have to buy a membership to see the pictures.

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Why would you want to spend 50 grand on repowering a 20 grand boat? Doesn't make a lot of sense from an economic point of view.

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no , i dont have any bones to pick. i am just trying to get the best information, i read 1 article in a mag that says "a" and come here and do a seach , and search says "b". just looking for clean information. which do you belive ? i am new here.

mr. patri yacht , the scarab has been in the family for a long time. i've saved up close to 30 grand in 3 years to repower. the boat has 365hp mercs that are seized. i apologize if i am not spending 50 g on 2 motors .

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Lets see, joined in Jan of 05, has 6 posts and a personal attack on TMP. Steve keep up the great work....you are obviously pissing some builders off! Porkchop, you need to read the book "how to win friends and influence people."

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What issue of Powerboat was TMP featured in (as referenced above)?? I must have missed it but prob. have it at home. Help save me some time.

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I would have said TMP for your location.
If you don't care where the engines are built, I'd check w/ Mesa Balancing.
Why must you have EFI?
You could also contact JCPerformance in NY. He is currently rebuilding my 365mag.

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Totalmp is at the top of the list in my opinion. They have been building great products and stand behind their work. Their customers are verry happy. I spoke to them on the phone and they were very knowledgeable and professional. The only reason I didn't go with totalmp is because my boat is a 1997 and I didn't want to spend the extra money on a boat only worth $80K. So I rebuilt my HP500's (carb motors) for $10K for both.

My next boat will be (hopefully) a Gladiator and totalmp will be at the top of my list when I want to put power in it.

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he wants two new efi motors for 30K?

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mr. western , the article was in july of 04 in powerboat. it seems some people are taking offense to this. if i am not as knowlagble as others than so be it. i know what i read . you read the article and read what tmp has put on here and tell me it's not 2 different stories , i see that they advertise here ,so i expect some backlash.

mr. stormrider , i wolud like to get efi, they idle better . i may have to save some more and that's ok by me.

mr. thunderusone , does that article read different to you? please tell me , that's why i came to oso , i was told i can get good, solid , information here.


mr. tmp , those are outboard class , not flats
j givono

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what doesn't match up with that article and what is on here.... I have only heard good things about TMP....

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ok , i read the article in the july powerboat ,mr. tmp says that he is 23 or 4(age) . i was told that on oso you can get good info ,so i come here today , my step brother came here i think on last thursday and something happened with this web site. he was porkchops , i'm porkchop , no S . so , i do a search for totalmp to see what info i can find , i click on the link and this guy says he's been building race engines for 20 years. this post was in 2002.

so ,take 24 , subtract 20 i get 4. he started building engines when he was 4? so which is it?

i cut and copied the link. it is in post # 8. i'm sorry if he is mad. i am just reading 2 things that don't add up. should i do something different? or is my subtraction off?

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TMP,

Nice website! Just one comment, change the title on your homepage so when it is added to favorites it says something more descriptive than "homepage".

When you say "complete engine", what is listed is what is included? Exhaust and other accessories are not included?

Dave M.

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These TMP guys, who are Steven and Eddie I met about 4 years ago. I had a Active Thunder w/KE 675's that never ran correctly and never could get serviced. These guys fixed the majority of the problem, the boat ran awesome afterwards. I presently have a 4300 Nortech with TMP 750 EFI. Best fricken motors I have ever had. The only problem I had was a bad design on a manufactures gasket, they fixed it for free and then gave me 2 free oil changes for my inconvience. I was in and out in 1 hour 10 minutes. They both jumped in and took care of it right away. I will be building some 875's-925's and they definatly will be getting my business. PORKCHOP, I am no way affaliated with TMP, just a satisfied customer. Jeff Jassby

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are you looking to find a good engine builder,or did you just come on here to bash tmp?your obviosly not going to use him,so why keep yapping?

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Innovation Marine 600 hp EFI in florida for my $ .02 worth.

Hey, the guy is asking a question. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He seems to have explained himself.

Wannabe

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mr,. jassman , that is pretty interior. is that yours?

thank you mr. wannabe , i said i was new. people just start pounding me. gosh. i can't help that i am looking really in depth on this. it's not like candy bar purchase.

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Hey this guy is just trying to find out info before he makes a big purchase.If he has his info mixed up then that is between TMP and him.This board does not need people like you telling someone new to this site to shut the @uck up.That is low class.How do you know he is not going to use TMP he is just asking questions before rather than after.It is people like yourself that keep people from posting questions on this site.Also I don't think that TMP would like you telling a prospective customer to shut the @uck up.

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Porkchop,

Its apparent that you misread the post that you linked to. I didn't even post on that thread. That was Dean Campbell, who was asking if anyone has ever done business with myself or my company. No where do I say that I've been building engines for 20 yrs. My partner as well as members of my staff have well over 20 yrs experience building engines for both race and pleasure applications.
Mr Campbell is now a very satisfied customer who bought a pair of 775HP EFI's, that actually made over 830HP.
The flatbottom team was Flat Crazy, and hydro's aren't outboards.

Regardless of my age, our products and customer service speak for themselves. I'm not upset about anything you wrote. Just don't understand why if you're so confused, you couldn't just ask me. Everyone here will tell you I'm very easy to get in touch with, and am happy to clarify any confusion. If you're serious about EFI engines that make real power, and come with 1 yr warranty, give us a call.

Dave M,

Each engine package is custom built to each individual customers application. Some of the packages include exhaust, and all packages include full accessories. Which were you interested in? Feel free to call me to discuss any of our engine packages.

Steve

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a few of the new engines

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kieth eickert!!! but you will not get a pair fo 30g.....i have ran his for years never any problems

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dyno sheet w/ 100 octane and canopy deck

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Here's a pick of the girls driving the 36' Cat w/ a pair of our 1400 EFI engines. They can dock it and take it on and off the trailer too.

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some people are just d!cks :mad: and people wonder why others don't post. i think the guy has a legit find. i did a search and found what they are talking about.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...hlight=totalmp

i get powerboat and i read that story. there is conflicting information. if pb said tmp is 24 and you read the link above emmon says they have been building race engines for20 + years.he leads you to belive he's been in business for 20+years .that dog ain't huntin'.

btw - buy some lifevests fake cans won't do it if there tossed out.

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i don't see where steve says that he has built engines for 20 years, he isn't even on that thread.... dean says he says that, could of been a typo or just miscommunication.... i don't think anybody 24 is going to say they have been doing it for 20 years... :rolleyes:

open, we all know where you stand with TMP..... but i do agree about the conage :D

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it's in the qoute. originally posted by tmp.

dean cambell qouted tmp.
the serarch engine here will find anything. even if the original person deletes it , it's still there if that person is quoted.

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you can make quotes say anything.... :rolleyes: :evilb: once again, if i was talking to somebody that was 24 and they did say that, i would ask for clarification, is that the total shop exp? your exp?

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so why would dc modify a qoute? or anyone for that matter.

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i don't know, i am just messing with ya..... i remember how the last thread ended up between precision and tmp.... but in all seriousness, if you want somebody to build motors for you, talk to the builder and talk to his customers, that is the easiest way to figure out if that builder is right for you.