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Who can navigate without GPS or Loran?
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I can cook over a fire, but I won't!
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i got maps and i think i might even be able to use them if i have to.... but i am with ed...
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I always navigate with charts. The GPS and radar are neat tools but I don't rely on them.
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Compass normally......GPS if I think I should be at the island already!
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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
I always navigate with charts. The GPS and radar are neat tools but I don't rely on them.
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Timid, Virgins, Make ,Dull, Companions, Add ,Whiskey ......... For those of you claiming to be old school .What does T,V,M,D,C stand for? :)
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:D :D :D
Sorry - I dont drive but I have pointed to where the GPS said to go when the glare made it kinda hard to see. Im just happy that I got to vote in my first poll!! Go Allan!! :D |
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
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Opps....."Vector" and "Distance" :D :D
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To convert your compass heading to True heading you must take into account the variation(natural caused by true north not being at the North pole) and Deviation(your stereo and amps are interfering with the compass)
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Always plot courses on your chart in True headings.
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TRUE VARIATION MAGNETIC DEVIATION COMPASS Did I pass? Going for my Capt'n license in a couple of months, so I hope I did well :D Robert |
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You are on a course of 340 heading north from the Bahamas to the NE United States in the Miami to New York Race. Your compass reads 340,your deviation is 3 degrees west,your variation is 4 degrees east. To convert your compass to the true heading on your chart 340(compass)-3W(deviation)=337 (Magnetic)+4E(variation)=341 (true)
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You got it TONTO! Just post whorin a bit here with some boat relevant info. Going to Sea School?
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West is best and East is least. Doug
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Nope, going straight for the license. If I can't pass the test, I will try, try, try, and try again.
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Anyone that gives a damn about old school(or electronic) navigation should get a copy of Chapman's Piloting.
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Which license Tonto?
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Originally Posted by outriggers
West is best and East is least. Doug
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I'm sorry, I disagree with you JnT,
It SHOULD be required reading for ANYONE that is boating on Navigable waters, which includes ALL inland lakes and waterways. Just MY opinion, you can do with it what you want. Robert |
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100 ton
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or just boat on lakes where you can see both sides at all times and you will be fine.... :D
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Originally Posted by Tonto
I'm sorry, I disagree with you JnT,
It SHOULD be required reading for ANYONE that is boating on Navigable waters, which includes ALL inland lakes and waterways. Just MY opinion, you can do with it what you want. Robert |
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I got my 100 ton NC license about 4 1/2 years ago.I'm only good out to 200 miles but have not needed the Oceans endorsement yet. Ran a 120 foot oilfield utility boat almost a year and learned a LOT about boat handling. Let me know if you need any info or tips on getting through all the Coast Guard stuff for the test.
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I agree that there's not many people that care about boathandling skills in the HOTROD crowd, but there are a few. The "Old School" guys that come to mind are, Stinson(sorry guys), TooOld, Ed Cozzy, AudioFN, Plastered, RiceHauler, Nykamp, WickedWon, Buca, AttitudeAdjustment, DJD, and the "JESTER" that took me by the hand when I was just a young pup and showed me the ins-and-outs of boating in the Fl. Keys. And talk about "old school", anyone want some olives from Greece? I have several gallons from my Father-In-Law, and D A M N are they GOOD!
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They all handle different.A Bertram or Hatteras sportfish will spin on a dime and back sweet.A 220 foot Supply boat is sluggish and is like moving a Hotel Single engine trawlers are hell to back down.Sailboats....ummmm....never mind....uhhh Crockett had one on Miami Vice!.Never docked a twin engine go-fast. Hopefully Tonto will give me some lessons!
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Come on over! I'll introduce you to "crashboxes". Probably the one most important thing in "high performance" boating that makes one think about what they are fixing to do, and what they are going to do. All while having a cocktail, a cigarette, and eating my bowl of olives. :drink:
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Sounds good! I can't wait to meet ya'll. BTW .........Allen4 is a Putz.
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Well, ya'll had your chance a couple of weeks a go. Don't worry though, summer is on it's way. Ya'll can stay with Mom or we'll hook ya'll up on the lake. Just let us KNOW when ya'll are coming into town.
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The Crashbox K I N G has spoken. And from what I've saw and heard he is Undisputed! To get in and out of the bars in the Keys with crashboxes takes a whole lotta feel for the boat and experience. Robert has both of those going for him. The cigarette and the cocktail comment is true. He also had some REALLY GREAT TEACHERS! :cool:
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I have to take my vote back. I don't know where the hell I'm going. :crazy:
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I use piltoting and dead reckoning with maps and then back it up with gps
Old school with alittle new wave added in. I learned this from my flying days. My old school instructor wouldnt let you use the gps until you learned to use the maps along with time /distance and all the rest of whats already been mentioned |
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I rely heavily on my color chartplotter on the Chesapeake Bay. Helps me avoid shallow waters, crab pots and pull up marina/restaurant info easily. I can download routes and waypoints, etc... If the GPS fails to work, then I have backup paper maps. Plus I know the bay pretty well. Red Right Return is stuck in my brain too. Also, stay in the middle of the small creeks and rivers.
If you're doing a poker run, then all that "old school" stuff is out the window :D You're going balls to the wall. Do you really trust the guy in front of you? You don't have time to look at a freakin' paper map. A chartplotter right next to your gauges will keep ya out of trouble and on the right route to the next card stop. I've seen to many times folks following other folks who don't know where they're going. :D Open waters are a different animal. I'd rely on the compass and then use GPS to help find bouys. |
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Originally Posted by Tonto
TRUE VARIATION MAGNETIC DEVIATION COMPASS Did I pass? Going for my Capt'n license in a couple of months, so I hope I did well :D Robert |
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Originally Posted by Quiet Storm
I have to take my vote back. I don't know where the hell I'm going. :crazy:
I learned to navigate from my father on our sailboat [sic] as a kid. If you can navigate a sailboat, you can navigate anything!! My compas is really damn close to the heading my GPS says.... off my less than 2*... which given the distances I normaly boat, that's not going to b e off by much at my destination... it gets me where I need to be that's for sure. I too use the GPS more for a speedo than anything... but it can come in really handy in the dark or if there is fog. |
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Its nice to hear alot of you know how to navigate.
My father thinks HP boats, along w/ most other boats don't know chit. |
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Most of the other boaters in general don' know chit.
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I grew up on the west end of lake Erie, before GPS, and you just HAD to know how to navigate. I've been out of the water for a few years, or on water that has visible landmarks everywhere, so I'm sure my "skills" are a little sloppy.
Quite honestly, when I bought the GPS, for what I needed it for, it was more confusing than a chart and compass. I used it for speed (of course... :D ), but I never even set waypoints or anything, I already knew where I needed to go. |
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