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fountain1fan 02-09-2005 01:37 AM

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glh. sorry the molds that fountain lays his race boats in, is the same molds you buy as a pleasure boat . the onily thing skater did was change the deck mold to, two canpies . the hul mold is all fountain and the 3 gen hull is fountain . he is all the time changing his bottoms . :drink:

BattleCry 02-09-2005 02:25 AM

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Fountain makes their run on their HOME course. Unlimited supply of help, parts, and equipment. ON A RIVER! Rivers flow. Just a bit of an advantage, don't ya think. Secrets! I believe Mercury Racing was founded on the basis of secrets. Lake X carries alot of secrets. Let these two companies fight it out for V speed supremecy. Fountain can't stand to lose.

Scott B 02-09-2005 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fountain1fan
he is all the time changing his bottoms . :drink:


I didn't realize Reggie was that old.... :drink: :D :eek:

Raypanic 02-09-2005 04:58 AM

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I would like to see a speed run with stock 525's that would truely show the better more efficent hull design.

Comanche3Six 02-09-2005 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximus
Now this is inshore powerboat racing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey wouldn't it be cool if they set up a kilo run inthe OCEAN!!!!

They could call it an offshore powerboat race.

I bet there would be some KILLER photos of a race like that.

just an idea.

Maximus

Agreed

CigBoat 02-09-2005 05:49 AM

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Ron P
The closest large airport would be in Lexington KY. There is a decent size airport in Somerset just no commercial flights. Lexington is going to be about an hour and a half away. The site says they are running in fishing creek which is a large tributary. The commercial marina closest would be Lee's Ford Marina. They have places to stay and you should be able to goggle up some info. SIGN4BOAT may be going to watch you could PM him he lives just west on Lexington.

DayTripper 02-09-2005 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by US1 Fountain
well hopefully the lake will be free of debris. I stay away until Memorial Day weekend for that reason, and then depending on the winter/spring runoff.


The end of Lake Cumberland that is supposed to be used for this run is always full of debris this time of year. They intend to clean it up but can you imagine smacking a floating log at 185 mph???

There will be history made, one way or another.

They ought to do this run in the main lake down between Jamestown Marina and the dam. That end is much cleaner. Plus, that way I could get out there to see it!!!

BAJA WILL 02-09-2005 07:32 AM

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I feel the this contest for fastest V is great.

However if OL is really going to do some secret run without inviting Fountain. That is the most disrespectful piece of chit company. I form this opinion over the fact that they talk so much chit then when it came time to put up or shut up the world saw what happen, OH yea it was at Fountain and Reggie did invite them to run at his expense. If OL cannot show the same respect back, then it just proves what type of company they are. :cool:

WILL :drink:

DollaBill 02-09-2005 07:47 AM

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Morning.

Just a thought-

It is a fact that a boat is faster in saltwater because the density of the water is higher. Does anyone have any info regarding this (REAL INFO!)? So, if that is true, why would OL not run in there own backyard. It is obviously colder, too.

DJD 02-09-2005 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by buyafountain.com
Morning.

Just a thought-

It is a fact that a boat is faster in saltwater because the density of the water is higher. Does anyone have any info regarding this (REAL INFO!)? So, if that is true, why would OL not run in there own backyard. It is obviously colder, too.

Exactly what I was thinking

fund razor 02-09-2005 08:30 AM

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I hope that my insurance company isn't reading this thread.

JCPERF 02-09-2005 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by buyafountain.com
Morning.

Just a thought-

It is a fact that a boat is faster in saltwater because the density of the water is higher. Does anyone have any info regarding this (REAL INFO!)? So, if that is true, why would OL not run in there own backyard. It is obviously colder, too.

The Pamlico river is mostly fresh water where Reggie did his run.It is brackish.Its worth i would say 3 to4 Mph difference to run in salt water.

dkwestern 02-09-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Raypanic
I would like to see a speed run with stock 525's that would truely show the better more efficent hull design.

The OL 39 Quattro will do around a 100 or better, can the 42' lightning do the same??

DollaBill 02-09-2005 09:37 AM

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First- A new 42 Lightning w/ 525's is good for about 82-84
Second - JC - That's what I am saying. Why wouldn't the runs be run in saltwater?? In theory, the 177 pass last August could have been 179-182 (??).

CMG 02-09-2005 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 27Fountain
OH yea it was at Fountain and Reggie did invite them to run at his expense. If OL cannot show the same respect back, then it just proves what type of company they are. :cool:

WILL :drink:


I thought it cost 30k to run at Reggie's gig last fall?

DoTheMath 02-09-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fund razor
I hope that my insurance company isn't reading this thread.

Could you even GET insurance for a gig like this!? God forbid something happens, how do you put that claim in? "Hi, yeah I need to put in a claim for my boss, he was trying to break a water-speed kilo record in a boat w/ 4,000 horsepower for bragging rights, well he wiped out and... who would I talk to in your claims dept. about this?" :rolleyes: :p

Maybe Sy can chime in?

Dwane 02-09-2005 09:54 AM

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I would like to see them run with stock power as well. The March Powerboat has the Outerlimits 39 Quattro with 525's Hull weight of est 8800 pounds that had a radar speed of 96.9. Who wants to build a motor the runs for a hour and goes 200MPH

DollaBill 02-09-2005 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwane
I would like to see them run with stock power as well. The March Powerboat has the Outerlimits 39 Quattro with 525's Hull weight of est 8800 pounds that had a radar speed of 96.9. Who wants to build a motor the runs for a hour and goes 200MPH


ME, ME! I would give you my left nut to run either of those boats.

The run last August cost big $, not 30K.

388Hustler 02-09-2005 10:25 AM

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Sign4boat,
Do you know when it is supposed to take place? Sat am? I would like to join you. Probably couldn't stay the night though. I would take my boat, but my engines are out. I'm sure some others from up here would like to as well... I'm not aware of anyway to get to where they are going to make the run other than by boat, are you?

Dean

Rippem 02-09-2005 10:29 AM

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3-4 MPH in salt based on prop bite alone? 'Cause there sure as hell isn't any hull in (on?) the water at those speeds. :rolleyes: You would think it would be a trade off at those speeds if it is the case...dregging skegs through denser water?

Just what they need, a surface more like concrete when the innevitable happens. :eek:

DollaBill 02-09-2005 11:30 AM

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I don't know why and I am not being biased, but I have a bad gut feeling about this one. Go to my website and watch the kilo run at Fountain from August. I was in a boat not far from Reggie and Ben and that boat was holding on by drives only. I said to myself "holy ****". I talked to Reggie 15 minutes after the run I said "Looked good!". He said with a straight face "didn't feel so good" and walked away.

At 180+ the boats are just waiting to go over. We will see the first blow over in a V soon.

marinetrans 02-09-2005 11:47 AM

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Us Sutphen dudes are tring to break a speed record too! That is to see who can drink the most beers,fast!!

Rippem 02-09-2005 11:59 AM

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unfortunately Bill, I agree. and what good will that do? Another black eye for perf boats. :mad:

Do they realize they are slowly contributing to thier (our) own demise?

The egos with bottomless pockets will contibute to increased costs for us regular folks. Just the bad publicity of one of the big players dying in a hyped up event, will drive up the perceived liability of insuring these things.

Maybe this is why OL is being low key? It's best that way as they all approach the edge (end).

DollaBill 02-09-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
unfortunately Bill, I agree. and what good will that do? Another black eye for perf boats. :mad:

Do they realize they are slowly contributing to thier (our) own demise?

The egos with bottomless pockets will contibute to increased costs for us regular folks. Just the bad publicity of one of the big players dying in a hyped up event, will drive up the perceived liability of insuring these things.

Maybe this is why OL is being low key? It's best that way as they all approach the edge (end).

I told you we would agree on stuff!

Rippem 02-09-2005 12:12 PM

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left some afternoon entertainment in the other thread for you Bill. ;)

DollaBill 02-09-2005 12:14 PM

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Gee, thanks!

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-09-2005 01:42 PM

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As the prop turns. Same s**t different year. How do you get insurance on a Stepped Bottom V that does 200mph???? You don't. Absolutely useless machinery!!!!!!!

CMG 02-09-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DPT MOTORSPORTS
As the prop turns. Same s**t different year. How do you get insurance on a Stepped Bottom V that does 200mph???? You don't. Absolutely useless machinery!!!!!!!


Thank god they'd chage 2.9 million bucks for it, I know I'm protected from the temptation.

Marginmn 02-09-2005 04:17 PM

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The whole thing may now be off. I was speaking with Mr. Pfaff about some engines I am considering for my own boat and he said he had canceled plans to be at Lake Cumberland this weekend. They are running his engines in the boat that is going to make the attempt and according to him one of them is having problems. There won't be enough time to have it fixed and get it back to KY by the weekend.

I just mention this in case you guys are making plans to fly in from all over the country. You might want to confirm that the event is actually taking place before you go thru all the trouble.

Of course, they might be putting out a lame duck rumor just to keep the competition off guard. Who knows. I'd just hate to see any fellow OSO's make that trip for nothing so you had better be sure.

p.s. He did say the boat was running an easy 180 before they had the trouble WOW!!!!

Jonas 02-09-2005 04:25 PM

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[p.s. He did say the boat was running an easy 180 before they had the trouble WOW!!!![/QUOTE]


easy 180 in a v bottom boat,,
hmm
that is either just hard for me to believe or they are straight up crazy,,

bojoe2 02-09-2005 04:50 PM

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who will run the ol in the kilo does anyone know will it be bob russell and who else

mboger 02-09-2005 04:50 PM

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I called LCM today to see if this run was true and it was canceled due to too much debris in the Lake so they are shooting for a couple weeks from now

Rippem 02-09-2005 05:09 PM

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a twig could upset the applecart at those speeds. :eek:

Marginmn 02-09-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
a twig could upset the applecart at those speeds. :eek:


Especially on an OuterLimits. I heard the hulls are weak :evilb:

Sean H 02-09-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
a twig could upset the applecart at those speeds. :eek:


ever hit a rock on a skateboard..... try a log at 190 :eek: :eek:

US1 Fountain 02-09-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mboger
I called LCM today to see if this run was true and it was canceled due to too much debris in the Lake


Your kidding, right? I mean, I thought these bad azz OL's were built for big ocean, wave crushing use. And now a few sticks is stopping them? ;) :D Tell them to fire up that new lake cleaner, log eatin machine. Wise choice though, if it is the real reason. Not like they haven't been ready before and packed it up early.

So does it take such ridiculous HP to make this boat run at those speeds, that if the motor starts they are thrilled? So far all that has been proven is that RC and now PP have issues building motors for this purpose.

Besides, I call BS to this whole story. Randy, (LCM) knows damn well the conditions of the lake this time of yr. It's just like every other yr. Why would they even consider a run there with this knowledge.

When was the offical word decided to cancel?

T2x 02-09-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete
Hey, all I wanted to do is post so that I can get notified when there's a new post.

And apache guys are NOT hostile. It's something else all together, but I'm not sure what. :D :D

But for everyone's sake, let's not turn this into another Apache rant!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

Well...if you think about it.....

Apache won't have an opportunity to up the record before the Miami boat show either........ :p

T2x

Rippem 02-09-2005 06:19 PM

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OUCH...that's gonna leave a mark. :eek:

skaterjim 02-09-2005 06:29 PM

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with 2 2000 hp motors i would hope that it does 180 !but i guess we will never know if it could! for now it is only rumor. if Fountain had PSI alcohol motors with 2000hp what would it do 2oo mph sounds true print it!! let the rumors begin

T2x 02-09-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skaterjim
with 2 2000 hp motors i would hope that it does 180 !but i guess we will never know if it could! for now it is only rumor. if Fountain had PSI alcohol motors with 2000hp what would it do 2oo mph sounds true print it!! let the rumors begin


We'll finally get an answer to the question we've been eagerly asking......

How fast can a vee bottom go while disintegrating?

T2x


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