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masher44 02-09-2005 06:48 PM

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I really think the whole deal is BS... Bigtime!!! anyone who has even a limited knowledge knows those lakes are a minefield in the Spring. They are even a PITA during the summer when we would get a big rain. They have had horrible weather and those lakes take days and even weeks to clear up after a big rain.... :rolleyes:

BAJA WILL 02-09-2005 07:06 PM

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If this was true, HA HA, OL no put up just allot of hype, same story as before. However since Mike never announced this I will just let it go as Hyped rumor. :rolleyes:

On a side note best of luck to anyone who wants to break the record, and be as safe as possible at 180mph

WILL

Marginmn 02-09-2005 07:33 PM

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Actually, I tested a boat last Friday from Lake Cumberland Marine. We had to dodge a bit of debris getting out to the main lake but once we were out there it wasn't really that bad. We ran a 38 Fountain up the lake at 86 mph right in the area where they were suppose to make the attempt and saw very little debris. If the lake was in the same condition as last Friday then I don't think there would be any trouble in getting it cleaned up for a run.

Like I said above, the engine builder himself told me OL was having trouble with one his 2000 HP beasts and that's why they called the attempt off. Keeping 2000 HP engines together can't be easy.

And if you know Lake Cumberland then you know it would be a great place to make a kilo run this time of year. It's long, calm, very cool in February, and has very little traffic to keep out of the way this time of the year. It's waters are protected by tall cliffs so it would provide the perfectly calm and predictable waters needed to make such an attempt to break a world record.

Boat Racer 02-09-2005 07:37 PM

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pretty neat, guys!!! Was asked to join here... Got to admit, it will not be long before I venture into one of these larger speed demons... I still feel, that the weather conditions, just aren't right, for this run...

Again, great site here!!!

woogie 02-09-2005 07:41 PM

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Does'nt this go back to the feud between Paul Sr. and Reggie. Fountian ran the ads that basically said they "invented" the stepped hull and Paul Sr. got p'd and ran full page ads in PowerBoat Mag showing Hustler had steps way before Fountian. This was back around 1990.

Sean H 02-09-2005 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dahkem1
Why don't they just put a set of nitro detuned funny car motors in it. Say 3500-4000 HP each. As long as they can run 2 kilo's, before blowing up, that should work.

i wouldn't want a drive or engine failure at those speeds... :eek:

Sean H 02-09-2005 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dahkem1
There were boats with steps in the early 1900's :drink:


didn't the vikings have ventilated hulls?

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-09-2005 08:19 PM

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This stuff gets old real fast!!!!!!!!!!

Sean H 02-09-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dahkem1
me either, but it sure seems that they are having a LOT of engine problems with what OL is putting in their boats. They had problems in NC, with RaceCrafters, and now problems at LC.


those are two, and i am not convinced of either one yet...

i have heard that they did and that they didn't have problems with the RC's, so i don't know about that one.....

and this one, remember, this is all rumors to begin with, i haven't seen Mike out saying he was gonna run yet... so until he does, i am not going to jump on the engine broke down again band wagon....

and is mike putting these engines in or is bob? i wouldn't start knocking OL quite yet on their choice of engines... these guys aren't trying to beat reggies record, they are trying to destroy it, and that means they probably have to deal with some equipment that isn't gonna last very long.... a few dyno pulls, a few test runs and how much do they have left in them?

if i felt my boat wasn't right, the water wasn't right, heck, if the stars weren't aligned properly, there is no way i would go that fast in a boat i wasn't 110% sure about...

woogie 02-09-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dahkem1
There were boats with steps in the early 1900's :drink:

So, You don't undestand the humor :D The ads ran in the late 80's

Sean H 02-10-2005 08:50 PM

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so is this thing still called off? i thought about driving down there if it was gonna happen..... anybody know?

Becca 02-10-2005 09:00 PM

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called off, blew an engine

Sean H 02-10-2005 09:23 PM

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these guys need more spares.... :D

rouxsterre 02-10-2005 09:33 PM

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OL should simply stick with building nice fast boats for well-heeled customers.
That is their "niche" . . . . it's no BAD niche, but leave the RACING to Fountain.

No disrespect to OL . . . . at all. . . . No one disputes that an OL is fast . . .

Just not fast-EST.

JCPERF 02-10-2005 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rouxsterre
OL should simply stick with building nice fast boats for well-heeled customers.
That is their "niche" . . . . it's no BAD niche, but leave the RACING to Fountain.

No disrespect to OL . . . . at all. . . . No one disputes that an OL is fast . . .

Just not fast-EST.

Yet.

fountain1fan 02-10-2005 10:47 PM

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ok not trying to start the pot. but why doint ol put the same motors in ther boat that reggie had, in his and out run him . you can allways put more hp and go fast. :evilb: but do it with the same motors. THEN we will see WHO is the fastest. reggie had 1550 hp level the playing field then it might mean somthing , till then it is jest CHECK BOOK RACING . so what. :drink:

Bilgerat 02-10-2005 11:36 PM

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1550 who can prove that?

105mph_38_2003 02-10-2005 11:54 PM

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How about a 39' OL w/525 efi's against a 42' Lightning w/525 efi's? Would that be fair or should in be a 38' Lighning for a level playing field?

I say who cares who goes 180 mph+ because %99.999 will never own a boat that does that...How many people are going to buy a boat from a company solely based on a speed record anyway?

Strip Poker 388 02-11-2005 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 105mph_38_2003
How about a 39' OL w/525 efi's against a 42' Lightning w/525 efi's? Would that be fair or should in be a 38' Lighning for a level playing field?

I say who cares who goes 180 mph+ because %99.999 will never own a boat that does that...How many people are going to buy a boat from a company solely based on a speed record anyway?


And make them the same weight and don't let them sneak :( into the motors before the run. That would be a true test of hulls. It ain't going to happen :eek:

fountain1fan 02-11-2005 12:42 AM

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strip i wish OL would put there boat in sv then we could see what they would do

fountain1fan 02-11-2005 12:47 AM

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strip like the new avatar . i agree 100 % robbie

CMG 02-11-2005 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 105mph_38_2003
How about a 39' OL w/525 efi's against a 42' Lightning w/525 efi's? Would that be fair or should in be a 38' Lighning for a level playing field??

Pretty much what we all want to see - real world results. btw it would need to be a 39 against a 42, Fountains beak adds artificial length.

jdnca1 02-11-2005 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 105mph_38_2003
How about a 39' OL w/525 efi's against a 42' Lightning w/525 efi's? Would that be fair or should in be a 38' Lighning for a level playing field?

not to mention throwing the 39' Skater V with 525's into this mix, might be some broken hearts of Fountain and OL owners :eek: :D :D

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-11-2005 07:53 AM

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The Skater V would smoke both the Fountain and the Outerlimits but Peter does not need to get involved in these pissing matches to sell his boats.

DJD 02-11-2005 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fountain1fan
ok not trying to start the pot. but why doint ol put the same motors in ther boat that reggie had, in his and out run him . you can allways put more hp and go fast. :evilb: but do it with the same motors. THEN we will see WHO is the fastest. reggie had 1550 hp level the playing field then it might mean somthing , till then it is jest CHECK BOOK RACING . so what. :drink:

Why blame this off on Outerlimits? Did Reggie use the same HP engines that Outerlimits used on their successful run? NO

Smarty 02-11-2005 08:18 AM

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The 525's have already been done in the kilo last season (race boat), Fountain set the record I thought?

Strip Poker 388 02-11-2005 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CMG
Pretty much what we all want to see - real world results. btw it would need to be a 39 against a 42, Fountains beak adds artificial length.


I guess you cold measure the wetted surface on both and I bet there the same .I know my Hustler is the same wetted surface when sitting side by side.

Its still a broken record ,they will not do a equal power to weight test!

44MTI 02-11-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJD
Why blame this off on Outerlimits? Did Reggie use the same HP engines that Outerlimits used on their successful run? NO

I don't think anyone is trying to blame anyone, but, The fountain that ran 177 I believe had 1550 sterlings which is what OL ran last yr at 160 something.

LapseofReason 02-11-2005 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
EXACTLY!!!!! Come on Outerlimits why don't you race your boats?

For the same reason Nor-tech doesn't race, to much demand and not enough time. When you have a 2 year wait on boats you don't have time to mess with race boats. Both Nor-Tech and OL have had race boats in the past and they did very well when they raced. Fountain builds more boats in a month than Ol and NT do all year put together.

I am sure if somebody went to them and said build me a race boat and I will never ask for any help from you they would be happy to, but that isn't how it works. If I was going to get into boat racing it would be who is going to help the most and cost me the least.

Sean H 02-11-2005 11:11 AM

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39 Q w/ 525 runs 96-98 mag tests.....

42 E Legacy w/825 Sterling runs 109 powerboat mag test....

42 GTX w/ 525's... i don't know if they even built one of these w/ 525

35 Lighting w/ 575's runs 103 powerboat mag test...

35 Lighting w/ 525 90+ (fountain website)

38 Lighting w/ 525 88+ (fountain website)

38 Lighting w/ 575 92 powerboat test (ben robertson driving)

42 Lighting w/ 525 85+ (fountain website)

42 Poker Run w/ 525 95-100 (testing rumors)

this really doesn't clear anything up, but i was just looking around for speeds to compare.....

CMG 02-11-2005 01:56 PM

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39 Q w/ 525 runs 96-98 mag tests.....

38 Lighting w/ 575 92 powerboat test (ben robertson driving)

jdnca1 02-11-2005 02:02 PM

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I thought I saw in a one of the mags ( :p ) where the Skater was running ~105 with 525's.

CMG 02-11-2005 02:11 PM

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This months SKATERONLY magazine





Just being a nit-wit

jdnca1 02-11-2005 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sutphen30
i want to see the article. :D

Can't remember the mag, seems like it was about 6 months ago...might have been the Spiderman boat. :D of course we all know how accurate the mags can be sometimes..... :p :p

dkwestern 02-11-2005 02:14 PM

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Yes it was mentioned in Poker runs america, but it was the full trim race boat "spiderman" with canopy. 105-106

Gary864 02-11-2005 02:17 PM

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hat was the spiderman boat, so that sped would be in race trim, No pleasure inteior

jdnca1 02-11-2005 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sutphen30
plus i'm sure it wasn't a true 525hp either. :rolleyes:

are they ever? I saw a "525" from the liquid metal boat in St Petersburg 03' get pulled with a rod sticking out the side of an oil pan. HMMMMMMMM how often does that happen? The boat had dominated super cat light all year. They dropped another "525" in the boat right from the Mercury trailer and came in dead last the next day...... :rolleyes: But I'm sure that had nothing to do with it......... :D :p

Dwane 02-11-2005 03:46 PM

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Its going to happen

CMG 02-11-2005 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwane
Its going to happen

Indulge us

Dwane 02-11-2005 03:58 PM

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I just got a call from a friend down there and they said that it has been postponed. That came from watercraft, they said because of to many people knowing about it. Dont know if its true


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