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DoTheMath 02-21-2005 10:02 AM

'05 Miami show (my take)
 
So, wanted to give a big thanks to Craig for the Thurs. night gig, what a blast! Got to put even more faces with names this year. To name a few, Ed Cozzi, nice to finally meet you, hope you got your check on Friday! ;o) Lucky Sr. & Jr. - class acts, thanks for the door duty Jr.! Biggus - your right up the road from me and I had to go all the way to SoBe to meet you, good talkin' to you!

On to the show... I have a ton of pics, but the camera is in Cali., as soon as I get them emailed, I'll post. What was impressive? Booth-wise, you couldn't argue with Cig. great boats and sweet honeys in little bathing suits for deck ornaments!! :eek: NorTech, by far had the best boats and best "values", relatively speaking. The new 39V was my fav. of the show, deep-azz cockpit, awesome dash and really nice bolsters!! If I was shopping - for myself - at the show, it would be that with TMP 650's - no question! They (NorTech) had a 43 cat w/ 1075's and a TAOD $70k+ paint job for about $780k, conversely - Donzi had a 38ZR w/ 1075's for the same money!! What is wrong with that picture? No offense to the Donzi guys, but I can't see a 38 ZR going for that much dough, when you could get a NorTech that's more in every respect for the same money!?

The MTI booth was cool, Speed Racer was awesome! OL had a 51' as did Hustler, both awesome! Concept was great - their 30 was really nice, w/ 250 Verados it will run just about 70 mph for a tick over $100k, great workmanship and an awesome value! Sunseeker was sweet, one of the guys I was with almost pulled the trigger on the new 35' they had - (so close) ;) All the "custom" builders were really nice to talk with, (the production guys - like Fountain and Formula - not so much, kind of a disappointment :rolleyes: ) I guess when you have the ego and market share, it gets in the way of salesmanship!?

Overall, a great show and a lot of fun! Should have the pics later today and will post then.

-Mark-

SLINGSHOT 02-21-2005 10:45 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
780k For A Nortech? Wow Did They Price Increase?

Jassman 02-21-2005 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SLINGSHOT
780k For A Nortech? Wow Did They Price Increase?

Look at your PB mag this month, a 44 MTI set up similar way is almost a cool Million, with the 250k you could buy a 36 Concept with trip Verado's and a 05 Z06 Vette and have enough money to take the wife on an extravagant vacation. :D Jeff

DoTheMath 02-21-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jassman
Look at your PB mag this month, a 44 MTI set up similar way is almost a cool Million, with the 250k you could buy a 36 Concept with trip Verado's and a 05 Z06 Vette and have enough money to take the wife on an extravagant vacation. :D Jeff

Love that math Jeff!! That was my thought too... :D

Even more shocking was the ZR Donzi for the same $$$ as the 43 NT cat - now THAT is crazy!! :rolleyes:

vette131 02-21-2005 01:25 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
the 40 baja outlaw suposedly had a sticker of $700,000
same problem. when your price is the same as nortech &
outerlimits it's hard to sell donzi's & baja's.

LostinBoston 02-21-2005 07:53 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
I think some companies jacked up prices on boats for the show. Not neccesarly talking about NT or donzi. (loved the 43 NT, and ready to trade my 36 for it when i can afford it). Some prices just seemed unreasonable compared to others.

salesmanship 02-22-2005 09:37 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
Just got back from Miami. Thank you for the acknowledgment.
Looks like we're leaving money on the table. New price.. One hundred billion dollars! :eek:
Terry

DoTheMath 02-22-2005 09:43 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by salesmanship
Just got back from Miami. Thank you for the acknowledgment.
Looks like we're leaving money on the table. New price.. One hundred billion dollars! :eek:
Terry

lol! Not sure about that, ;) but of the three times I stopped by the booth to talk to you, I couldn't get close, you guys were buuuuuuusy!! Great display and really nice product Terry - you guys should be proud!

BTW, is the apparel being offered by you guys or by Randy, would love to get a bit of it?

Thanks,
-Mark-

GLH 02-22-2005 09:45 AM

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I doubt the price on the paper at the show and the number written on the check of the purchuser are the same...

Powerboat (the nitwit bible!!!) last year had the test on Perfect Storm a 36 Nortech Cat saying price was in the $600k range and two page later Typhoon had the boat advertised for $455k or something.

DoTheMath 02-22-2005 09:51 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
Come on GL - you don't think some 'nit-wit' paid $775k for that 38 Donzi!? lol! :D

Hey, how is the little guy doing!? Mine is due in 6 weeks, (first one). :)

Sean H 02-22-2005 09:57 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by salesmanship
Just got back from Miami. Thank you for the acknowledgment.
Looks like we're leaving money on the table. New price.. One hundred billion dollars! :eek:
Terry


i'll take two plus the 80' in the shop.... :D

GLH 02-22-2005 10:15 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by DoTheMath
Come on GL - you don't think some 'nit-wit' paid $775k for that 38 Donzi!? lol! :D

Some people pay $5 for Powerboat Magazine so anything is possible...

Originally Posted by DoTheMath
Hey, how is the little guy doing!? Mine is due in 6 weeks, (first one). :)

I wish you the best, first one is something else.
Everyone's fine here we're all waiting to go for a Cig ride ... in April and Mitchell will see how a Cig rides without the water suspension he had for nine month...

DoTheMath 02-22-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Some people pay $5 for Powerboat Magazine so anything is possible...
I wish you the best, first one is something else.
Everyone's fine here we're all waiting to go for a Cig ride ... in April and Mitchell will see how a Cig rides without the water suspension he had for nine month...

Good point!

And thanks man - we are looking forward to Kyle's arrival! Hope to get him out on the water this summer as well... :)

bluellama 02-22-2005 10:34 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by DoTheMath
Come on GL - you don't think some 'nit-wit' paid $775k for that 38 Donzi!? lol! :D

1075's and 6's will run you what....... about $130 per side ??

So what's that leave you, about $500 for the hull... :D

DoTheMath 02-22-2005 10:36 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by bluellama
1075's and 6's will run you what....... about $130 per side ??

So what's that leave you, about $500 for the hull... :D

YUP! About the same as the 36 NorTech cat they had at the show with 750's and a smokin' paint job!! :eek: :D :rolleyes:

Pete B 02-22-2005 11:49 AM

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No Profit There huh!!! :D

SLINGSHOT 02-22-2005 12:03 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
whats the speed of the donzi?

OldSchool 02-22-2005 12:20 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by SLINGSHOT
whats the speed of the donzi?

130

bluellama 02-22-2005 01:05 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
I heard the new 38zr short stagger 525, full cabin ran 89 mph yesterday with 4 four full size guys on board.

sellsman11 02-22-2005 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bluellama
I heard the new 38zr short stagger 525, full cabin ran 89 mph yesterday with 4 four full size guys on board.

Was in the boat at 90 with 3 people.

bluellama 02-22-2005 01:19 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
Thanks Sellsman, I was pretty sure that was the number, but I didn't want to overstate it.....

DoTheMath 02-22-2005 01:31 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
No offense to you Donzi boys (I also own an 18 Classic) but the only thing overstated on the 38 ZR at the show was the price!! :(

DollaBill 02-22-2005 03:48 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by DoTheMath
So, wanted to give a big thanks to Craig for the Thurs. night gig, what a blast! Got to put even more faces with names this year. To name a few, Ed Cozzi, nice to finally meet you, hope you got your check on Friday! ;o) Lucky Sr. & Jr. - class acts, thanks for the door duty Jr.! Biggus - your right up the road from me and I had to go all the way to SoBe to meet you, good talkin' to you!

On to the show... I have a ton of pics, but the camera is in Cali., as soon as I get them emailed, I'll post. What was impressive? Booth-wise, you couldn't argue with Cig. great boats and sweet honeys in little bathing suits for deck ornaments!! :eek: NorTech, by far had the best boats and best "values", relatively speaking. The new 39V was my fav. of the show, deep-azz cockpit, awesome dash and really nice bolsters!! If I was shopping - for myself - at the show, it would be that with TMP 650's - no question! They (NorTech) had a 43 cat w/ 1075's and a TAOD $70k+ paint job for about $780k, conversely - Donzi had a 38ZR w/ 1075's for the same money!! What is wrong with that picture? No offense to the Donzi guys, but I can't see a 38 ZR going for that much dough, when you could get a NorTech that's more in every respect for the same money!?

The MTI booth was cool, Speed Racer was awesome! OL had a 51' as did Hustler, both awesome! Concept was great - their 30 was really nice, w/ 250 Verados it will run just about 70 mph for a tick over $100k, great workmanship and an awesome value! Sunseeker was sweet, one of the guys I was with almost pulled the trigger on the new 35' they had - (so close) ;) All the "custom" builders were really nice to talk with, (the production guys - like Fountain and Formula - not so much, kind of a disappointment :rolleyes: ) I guess when you have the ego and market share, it gets in the way of salesmanship!?

Overall, a great show and a lot of fun! Should have the pics later today and will post then.

-Mark-

half the Fountain guys are cool, the other half that were there were numbnuts. You should have heard some of the crap they were throwing at customers! You must have run into one of the idiots. Sorry I missed you.

GLH 02-22-2005 04:25 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by craig223
130

A 38 Donzi that costs $775k should break the sound barrier without using the afterburners and knock out F-16's in a dogfight.

cbdragon 02-22-2005 04:38 PM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 
I don't think you can break the sound barrier on the water....can you? cb

GLH 02-22-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cbdragon
I don't think you can break the sound barrier on the water....can you? cb

For that kind of flash that Donzi should fly.

DoTheMath 02-23-2005 08:18 AM

Re: '05 Miami show (my take)
 

Originally Posted by buyafountain.com
half the Fountain guys are cool, the other half that were there were numbnuts. You should have heard some of the crap they were throwing at customers! You must have run into one of the idiots. Sorry I missed you.

Thanks, guess I did (try) and talk to the wrong people, cuz I walked out as fast as I walked in. :rolleyes: Have to admit - not really a fan, but that 42 PR was sweet!!


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