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Go fast drug runner stories.
Do you know any good ones, you know like covert ops kinda stuff? i'm into all that crap.
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Perhaps I need to elaborate, like famous busts, accidents while chasing and the like. NOT how to be a drug runner and stuff like that.
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OK, this thread is going nowhere....
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A little "How to" wouldn't hurt either... :rolleyes:
I'ts time for me to buy a new boat...so a little extra cash..clean or not..would help.. :eek: This, this is what I want.... Minus the gay 525s... |
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Ive seen a TON of crack on my boat :D
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I cutted my boat no drugs :rolleyes:
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Years ago the best time to do it was on a windy night with whitecaps so they had a hard time following your propwash but nowadays you'll have a real hard time outrunning radar and nightvision. If your gonna do a run now, you might as well do it in a Hatteras.
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dig up any of the apache threads......
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Originally Posted by puder
dig up any of the apache threads......
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dig up an old Apache? Its not the only boat used and I would believe that they were a little too expensive for the square grouper trade
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Originally Posted by Tim G.
This, this is what I want.... Minus the gay 525s... |
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Originally Posted by Tim G.
This, this is what I want.... Minus the gay 525s...
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I don't know of an APACHE that had a "high" deck. They were all "flat" decks. While the owner of the co. was convicted of smuggling and what not, I don't know of that many APACHES that were used as "work boats". Seems that Mr. Arronow always having two to three boats rigged and ready and only accepting cash for his boats might be a more subjectable suspect.
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Originally Posted by Tonto
I don't know of an APACHE that had a "high" deck. They were all "flat" decks. While the owner of the co. was convicted of smuggling and what not, I don't know of that many APACHES that were used as "work boats". Seems that Mr. Arronow always having two to three boats rigged and ready and only accepting cash for his boats might be a more subjectable suspect.
Robert |
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Originally Posted by BajaRunner
Ive seen a TON of crack on my boat :D
YEAAAAAAAAA :eek: |
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Originally Posted by KACHINA KEN
Do you know any good ones, you know like covert ops kinda stuff? i'm into all that crap.
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but it doesnt really get into how to successfully smuggle them if thats what ya wanna know. :D :D
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Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA
But I thought he helped Bush in his war on drugs? :confused: :confused: Or is that similar to Mtv's Rock Against Drugs? :D
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Norman's Cay in the Bahamas...let's see who knows why it was important. <gg>
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How about Midnight Express ?
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Carlos Lehderer bought Normans Cay and had an airstrip and docks built to facilitate the transfer of drugs. Normans Cay is strategically located in the smuggling transit zone.
Midnight Express was the classic smuggling "go-fast boat". Lots of fuel and three/four outboards. The original owners and company were indicted and convicted of conspiracy by knowingly assisting drug smugglers. When Customs seized the company they found boats in production which were being fitted with concealed compartments that had hydraulic actuators installed to push the bales under the deck. No claim of ignorance there. In the plea arrangement, Midnight Express was forced to complete their production line and the boats went to US Customs. Several of these boats with 80's HINs are still in service with Customs in Florida and the Caribbean. The new incarnation of Midnight Express, which has no relation to the original ownership, now makes the 39' Customs interceptors which are rigged with four Merc 225's. Although smuggling is just as prevalant today, the Miami Vice days are long gone as far as chasing black Cigarettes doing 80mph. The Feds wised up and changed some laws. Customs can now seize a vessel "outfitted for smuggling" which means they do not need to catch you with the dope onboard. Based on a few articuable facts, a vessel can be seized and forfeited without so much as a seed. The smugglers know this and now prefer disposable boats like a twin outboard center console. The mother ship concept of open water transfers is still in use and it would be more common for loads to come in on a flats boat or even blow boat. Besides advances in various radar and detection systems, its very hard to outrun a radio and a Customs UH-60 Black Hawk or USCG HITRON Stingray. Both agencies have also been employing disabling fire to the engines. Bottom line, it may sound glamorous, and for many probably is, but eventually they all get caught. Speed Kills is an excellent book and details how Ben Kramer smuggled variuos loads including multi-tons in a scow barge. By the way Kachina Ken, what's your real name and address??? Only joking. |
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Originally Posted by Ing
Carlos Lehderer bought Normans Cay and had an airstrip and docks built to facilitate the transfer of drugs. Normans Cay is strategically located in the smuggling transit zone.
Midnight Express was the classic smuggling "go-fast boat". Lots of fuel and three/four outboards. The original owners and company were indicted and convicted of conspiracy by knowingly assisting drug smugglers. When Customs seized the company they found boats in production which were being fitted with concealed compartments that had hydraulic actuators installed to push the bales under the deck. No claim of ignorance there. In the plea arrangement, Midnight Express was forced to complete their production line and the boats went to US Customs. Several of these boats with 80's HINs are still in service with Customs in Florida and the Caribbean. The new incarnation of Midnight Express, which has no relation to the original ownership, now makes the 39' Customs interceptors which are rigged with four Merc 225's. Although smuggling is just as prevalant today, the Miami Vice days are long gone as far as chasing black Cigarettes doing 80mph. The Feds wised up and changed some laws. Customs can now seize a vessel "outfitted for smuggling" which means they do not need to catch you with the dope onboard. Based on a few articuable facts, a vessel can be seized and forfeited without so much as a seed. The smugglers know this and now prefer disposable boats like a twin outboard center console. The mother ship concept of open water transfers is still in use and it would be more common for loads to come in on a flats boat or even blow boat. Besides advances in various radar and detection systems, its very hard to outrun a radio and a Customs UH-60 Black Hawk or USCG HITRON Stingray. Both agencies have also been employing disabling fire to the engines. Bottom line, it may sound glamorous, and for many probably is, but eventually they all get caught. Speed Kills is an excellent book and details how Ben Kramer smuggled variuos loads including multi-tons in a scow barge. By the way Kachina Ken, what's your real name and address??? Only joking. What's YOUR real name and address? A lot of people on here know a little (or a lot) about the subject at hand. Bottom line, the game has changed, the old rules (Marijuana-venial sin, Cocaine-Mortal sin) have also gone by the boards. This is now the subject of myths and legends....... T2x |
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Beer rules.
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you don't have to smuggle beer.... :D
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Definitely not glamorous...
A buddy from Lauderdale told me this story about offloading in the late 70's. He was running with an 'interesting' crowd back then and when they asked him if he would be interested in using his new Formula to help bring in some product he figured why not. He had only had the boat for a couple of months. They get out to the mother ship and it is a total rustbucket- they lash him up and as his boat is riding up an down the side of the tub and slamming against it, rust flakes are falling all over his nice white deck and the rubrail is really getting abused. He's anal as hell anyway, and at this point he's beginning to wonder if its such a great idea. Then the fun begins. The Columbians start heaving 5 kilo bales over the side and they are crashing down on his new deck- WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! Didnt hurt anything but totally freaked him out... really funny to hear him tell it. He never did it again- not from fear of getting caught, but because he didnt want to mess up the boat. :eek: |
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Originally Posted by Sean H
you don't have to smuggle beer.... :D
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Originally Posted by Sean H
you don't have to smuggle beer.... :D
But accidents still happen... |
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Originally Posted by jayboat
...He never did it again- not from fear of getting caught, but because he didnt want to mess up the boat. :eek:
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Originally Posted by jayboat
Definitely not glamorous...
A buddy from Lauderdale told me this story about offloading in the late 70's. He was running with an 'interesting' crowd back then and when they asked him if he would be interested in using his new Formula to help bring in some product he figured why not. He had only had the boat for a couple of months. They get out to the mother ship and it is a total rustbucket- they lash him up and as his boat is riding up an down the side of the tub and slamming against it, rust flakes are falling all over his nice white deck and the rubrail is really getting abused. He's anal as hell anyway, and at this point he's beginning to wonder if its such a great idea. Then the fun begins. The Columbians start heaving 5 kilo bales over the side and they are crashing down on his new deck- WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! Didnt hurt anything but totally freaked him out... really funny to hear him tell it. He never did it again- not from fear of getting caught, but because he didnt want to mess up the boat. :eek: |
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A lot of people on here know a little (or a lot) about the subject at
hand. Bottom line, the game has changed, the old rules (Marijuana-venial sin, Cocaine-Mortal sin) have also gone by the boards. This is now the subject of myths and legends....... T2x[/QUOTE] Hmmmm. It's still sinful, at least around here. Sad as it is to say, Law Enforcement has to play "Catch Up" with the different methods of smuggling. A buddy in the Coast Guard once told me about a freighter that had one engine (huge!) gutted and semi-filled with 'cain. I thought that was inventive. I've personally seen it delivered via UPS and "mules" (car) from different points. Sad to say, it's just not the priority it once was. Too bad, the wake from controlled substances creates unbelielvable damage both direct and collateral. I guess that wasn't what you were looking for, huh? I enjoy those tales from the 80's as much as anyone... |
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Originally Posted by bryanspeedracer
A lot of people on here know a little (or a lot) about the subject at
hand. Bottom line, the game has changed, the old rules (Marijuana-venial sin, Cocaine-Mortal sin) have also gone by the boards. This is now the subject of myths and legends....... T2x Sad as it is to say, Law Enforcement has to play "Catch Up" with the different methods of smuggling. A buddy in the Coast Guard once told me about a freighter that had one engine (huge!) gutted and semi-filled with 'cain. I thought that was inventive. I've personally seen it delivered via UPS and "mules" (car) from different points. Sad to say, it's just not the priority it once was. Too bad, the wake from controlled substances creates unbelielvable damage both direct and collateral. I guess that wasn't what you were looking for, huh? I enjoy those tales from the 80's as much as anyone...[/QUOTE] No the engine thing is cool, and you are right now it's all about weapons and things like that so the runners and dealers are probably sending thank you baskets to AlQueda for taking the heat off them. |
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Yeah, that's funny.
I have some funny stories but they have to do with the street level dealers and nothing to do with boats. My wife gets on me about watching Miami Vice and fantasizing about the days that "Crocket and Tubbs" chased dealers in a fast boat. Drug dealing and law enforcement has change tremendously since then. |
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I have to say the fast boats thru the 8o's were miami vice but the mother loads came in on commercial long line boats under 10 tons of tuna and swordfish and was unloaded right in front of gov officials and they never had aclue!!!! I was there on many occasion
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The only limit is their imagination.
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WOW! cb
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Originally Posted by fordsofflease
I have to say the fast boats thru the 8o's were miami vice but the mother loads came in on commercial long line boats under 10 tons of tuna and swordfish and was unloaded right in front of gov officials and they never had aclue!!!! I was there on many occasion
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Originally Posted by CBR
Norman's Cay in the Bahamas...let's see who knows why it was important. <gg>
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Originally Posted by ctadams21
Turning the Tide is probably the most comprehensive explanation of the activities on Normans in the late 70s and early 80s. Also refers to a few of Carlos Lehder's boats. A red Scarab named Firefall and a Black one named Eliminator. Both 37s I believe. (Great story in there about Lehder burning up 454s by running Aviation fuel in them) Who knows where he is now. Depends on who you talk to.
Is Turning the Tide a book? Where can I find it? Also, anyone know where I can get a copy of Speed Kills? Can't find it anywhere! |
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