Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
Wait til Jay Pilini at Spectre powerboats debut's his new 34 CC. Spectre's 24 is a great boat & the 34 will be even better.
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
My understanding is that when Byng Goode left Cig to form the original Midnite Express he took the 36Ft/9'6" mold with him and called it a 37'. Some how Jenkins @ Black Thunder got the mold and stretched it to 43' to make the Black Thunder 43GT. The BT bottom evolved from a straight deep vee to twin steps in '97. Look at the deck lines of an old ME and a 43 BT. The resemblance is unnerving. Joe Murray
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
the 33 cig cafe cc was originally sold as a 33 OceanHawk centerconsole. Cigarette leased the molds for several years and sold them as a 33 cafe open. Craig Barrie came up with the new name for this project.
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I talked with Phil Cardilli at the 2004 Miami show and was told that they (Ocean Hawk) built the boats and Cigarette finished them with their emblems.
I am going to post the phone number for Ocean Hawk from the brochure because I do not now if you can view the attachment with a basic.
305-787-8484
786-514-0279
LOA 36
Beam 8'2"
Deadrise 24 Degrees
Fuel 250 Gallons
Water 25 Gallons
Dry Weight 6,500lbs
Boat had a bigger cabin then Concept and a flush head.
Allso had a nice feature if you are going to do any fishing or if the water gets rough and enters the cockpit it had scuppers so the water could exit.
I am going to post the phone number for Ocean Hawk from the brochure because I do not now if you can view the attachment with a basic.
305-787-8484
786-514-0279
LOA 36
Beam 8'2"
Deadrise 24 Degrees
Fuel 250 Gallons
Water 25 Gallons
Dry Weight 6,500lbs
Boat had a bigger cabin then Concept and a flush head.
Allso had a nice feature if you are going to do any fishing or if the water gets rough and enters the cockpit it had scuppers so the water could exit.
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OceanHawk powerboats has been building boats since the 1980's. Phil Cardelli has always owned the molds and the company. He builds a quality boat and has a honest reputation in the boating industry. He is located in North Miami, Florida and will talk to anybody that calls him.
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
I had a long talk with Richie Powers at the Monza booth several years ago in Miami at the boat show. He told me the 34 was derived from the old wide-body Cig 36 race mold; its beam was not quite 9 1/2'.
Richie left the company not long after that, and the company has since changed hands.- anyone seen him lately? He was one of the greatest at the sticks in offshore racing ........
I like the looks of the Monza, the Concept has plenty of flash, and the Carrera is also a proven race hull, but when I go hunting for a CC, my money is going into a Manta .
Jim
Richie left the company not long after that, and the company has since changed hands.- anyone seen him lately? He was one of the greatest at the sticks in offshore racing ........
I like the looks of the Monza, the Concept has plenty of flash, and the Carrera is also a proven race hull, but when I go hunting for a CC, my money is going into a Manta .
Jim
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
jafo!! Long time no post, see, hear from!! Do you still have the AT? If so I know someone who might be interested in buying it if you wanna sell.
Don't be such a stranger!!!
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Don't be such a stranger!!!
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
Not sure if this thread is still active, but Oceanhawk's web page is http://www.oceanhawkpowerboats.com
I have one being built right now. It is an awesome boat and they are great to deal with. I considered Concept, Donzi, Monza, Fountain, Triton, more and Oceanhawk has the best built and designed boat out there. One of the best features you dont see on a boat this size are a usable cabin. This one has it without sacrificing any space. Remember this is a true 33 ft boat, not like Donzi's 35 (31' hull), or Fountain's 31 (29' hull), Concept's 36 (33 Hull), Monza and Marlago's 35 (33' hull). Also, most only perform good at one or two things, but the Ocean hawk can be set up however you want it.
If you are really looking for this style boat you should consider the Oceanhawk. Don't get too caught up on the Cigarette Emblem that was on this same boat in 1997-2002, because they were built like crap. Oceanhawk did not build them, they only leased the molds.
Please contact Phil or Joe Walker at the number on the web page. You won't be disappointed.
I have one being built right now. It is an awesome boat and they are great to deal with. I considered Concept, Donzi, Monza, Fountain, Triton, more and Oceanhawk has the best built and designed boat out there. One of the best features you dont see on a boat this size are a usable cabin. This one has it without sacrificing any space. Remember this is a true 33 ft boat, not like Donzi's 35 (31' hull), or Fountain's 31 (29' hull), Concept's 36 (33 Hull), Monza and Marlago's 35 (33' hull). Also, most only perform good at one or two things, but the Ocean hawk can be set up however you want it.
If you are really looking for this style boat you should consider the Oceanhawk. Don't get too caught up on the Cigarette Emblem that was on this same boat in 1997-2002, because they were built like crap. Oceanhawk did not build them, they only leased the molds.
Please contact Phil or Joe Walker at the number on the web page. You won't be disappointed.
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
Originally Posted by MarineShopInc
OceanHawk powerboats has been building boats since the 1980's. Phil Cardelli has always owned the molds and the company. He builds a quality boat and has a honest reputation in the boating industry. He is located in North Miami, Florida and will talk to anybody that calls him.
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Re: Cig Cafe 36 CC compared to the Monza 34'
The 33' OceanHawk derived from Byng's 32' Midnite Express, which derived from a 28' Cigarette, which derived from a 27' Magnum. 8' beam is how they began life, then 8' 2" without the rubrail, which became 8' 4" with the rubrail...on many of this original hull's newer versions, that many, many, company's, since the seventies, have called their own. Ed