Need an engine guy in NY, NJ or CT, that can do a cam/head swap on a 496 ??
 

possibly going do a cam and head swap on my H.O. and I'm looking for somebody that can handle the job and that is reasonably priced. Talked to the marina where the boat is located and they were outrageous.. Does not have to be a shop,, but has to know 100% what they doing.. Thanks chris

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PM JCPerf from OSO he can do the job and has a good reputation. His pricing is also very fair. His shop is on Long Island.

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Thought you were looking at a cig?
If you know what you want to do and are looking for assembly talk to Johnny V. His brother has an engine shop that is first class. If I were keeping the AT he would be my new engine guy with out question. The problem is he is just getting into the Marine stuff and if you are looking for someone to design a package, he might not be your guy, but he would tell you that.

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Cristoball,,, No Cig for me,, not with gas on the water going to be around 3.00 - 3.50.... not to mention needing a new tow vehicle,, I just cant afford to run twins right now, filling up one 110 gallon tank is bad enough for 275.00 never mind TWO... Going to stick w/ the single for now,, but when the time comes we'll be looking for an 02 or newer cig T.G T.S.

P.S I will give Johnny's bro a call,, Paulie reccomended him to me yesterday,, just asking around, would like to find somebody thats willing to do it on the side for some extra cash and won't rape me for 100.00 bucks an hour.. Thanks chris

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JC... competent, knowledgable, and works for peanuts... :D
Just kiddn... he's finishing up my engine now.
He knows his sh*t, see if he can fit you in.

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Even though he hates Apaches ( what a dork :D ) he has a great reputation and lots of marine experience......

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Thanks for the suggestions...

P.S. kit would be from Raylar,, full instructions and everything needed to do the complete job,, just need a qualified mechanic.. :)

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Frankie Damico from Albany can do this for you. He really knows his stuff but only does it on the side. Give me a call if your interested and Ill pass on his number. He does alot of work for the locals around here and some on this board can vouch for him and his work

Bob
518 361-6521

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Pm me if you need anything.Remember the motors i assembled propel Anna k. around in Enriques Cig. :evilb: :D

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I would call Tyler crocket before you waist your money.A very reputable engine biulder is testing those heads right now ,so far they didnt come close to 50 hp over stock.Im so glad I didnt waste my money. stay tuned when tests are done ill ask him if I can post his shops name.Do you really think 100 hp would give you 14 mile per hr ? YOU dont have to agree with me .Do some more homework .

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Chris stop everything you are thinking. You will never be happy. By mid summer you will again be looking for more speed. Put an end to this and save a few more $$$ and supercharge that thing. :evilb: :D In the end it will be worth it. Think of all the gass $$ you was with the faster cruse speeds you will have. Well at least thats what I told my self :eek:

. If you want to do it your self , then lets do it at my house. Its not that hard of a job .I have everything we need and then some. You just have to supply the beer

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Supercharge an HO, can't recommend that :eek: :eek: :eek:

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I'm Just busting his chops.

But why is the 496 HO not a good choice for a blower ????

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Oh in that case I definitely cannot afford you... :D thanks sent you a p.m.

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Crayola,, I'm sure his 14 mph quote was from a stock 496 mag,,, with his full kit goes from 375 to 525 hp,, so yes I ALMOST belive it....

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Thanks for the offer Paulie,,, just trying to get an idea what a pro would charge before I even think about unbuttoning this baby myself...

P.S. cruising down to the city w/ Jill I will save a fortune,,, when we left last time she said she would be cruising around 45-50 and if I didn't want to wait for her to go ahead,, I said no problem,, we ended up cruising at 35-37 GPS,, I was bored outta my mind she said well my speedo says 45... :rolleyes: :D

P.S.S. supercharging a 496 is a bad idea because of the stock cast piston design,,, top ring is very close to the top of the piston and is known to fail... REALLY should change the pistons if your gonna S.C. a 496.. :)

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If thats the case, I would throw a set of pistons in the job as well.
See how these things get outta hand :D

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Based on this logic I think you should both buy CATS! :evilb: :drink:

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Hey Chris:
Glad you are considering our kit. As they say, don't believe everything you read on these threads! In about a week a major performance boat magazine will have a full article out on our kit. a complete before and after test on a 496HO before and after a Raylar kit, with the motor on a dyno before Raylar and on the same dyno, that day after Raylar! With the dyno being the biggest independant dyno operator in the country! An in the water before and after with the customers comments and installers input. Should put to rest all the uninformed nay sayers who don't by my kits, but somehow know that buying such is a waste of money! I can assure anyone who is interested in our kits that the 100HP increase is real. You and I know that the 496Mag is 375HP and with only the cam and ecm different, adding our kit and taking it up to 525HP which will add a real 150HP can obviously increase the speed of your boat significantly with the right prop selection as many on this site can attest to.

Thanks,
Ray @ Raylar

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Thanks Chrissy,,, add some more FUEL to the fire... :D :D

The cat isn't the problem,,, it's the insurance that would kill me.. :eek:


P.S. Ray,, as soon as I find a qualified installer at a fair price,, I'll be in touch..

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chris did raylar tell you approx. how many hrs of labor the job should take ? why after all the hassle are you not doing the whole kit ?

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You feeling ok? :rolleyes:

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Is the price for cat insurance high? Yes.
Ill let you know my thoughts at the end of the season as to how the dollar per MPH works out.
Maintaining a 100mph+ V hull, now that sounds expensive even to me :drink:

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Cam / heads / roller rockers = approx 500 hp.. don't feel the intake is worth an extra 2,500 for 25 hp ..


P.S. if you returned your phone messages you would have known.. :rolleyes: :D

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NO !!! how could you tell... :D

at least it wasn't Paulie Cakes and Chrissy Poo... :p

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If you going to do all that you shouldnt have a problem with 525hp +. You will have to throw in a re-map and maybe a fuel pump.

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Chris,, all of this is in reference to Raylars engine kits,,, can do the whole kit ( heads, rockers, cam, intake ) for 5,800 + installation and 100 hp, can do heads alone 2,700 for 50 hp, or do heads, cam, rollers for approx. 75 hp.. I'm leaning towards, heads, cam, rollers, for 500 hp.. :)

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Do some work on your on heads; 1300.00 cam 300.00 ecu reprogram by Whipple 650.00 approx 2250.00 gets the same results. It is pretty funny listening to Raylar HIJACK every 496 post .There are at least 6 or 7 engine builders that make 525 -600 from 496. Tyler Crocket ,Innovtation,Arizoa Speed, Whipple, Flag Ship, Larrys Engines.I dont ever see any of these guys HYJACKING this site. In Rays own words ,you get 15hp from taking out gasket in exhaust...xthats FREE,so that tells ya his kit makes honest 85hp makes sense to me. I did business with Ray,and listened to his bs. When it all came down to it was a Fn disaster. He sent me rusty cranks that had work done to them. I paid for new parts . He removed all part no. from common parts that can be bought anywhere and told me they were hi performance parts and they are not. Raylar does not give itemized receipts, packing slips or any reciepts at all. Icould get in to more. In the 496 industry Ray will be the first to bash the computer . After my experience with Ray I read all RAYLARS posts and threads .Theres not more then one boat out there running .270 posts. I'd like to hear about 496 ups and mod but not from salesmen thats cheezy . I happened to run whipples 7#s boost 354 hrs comp. is still 160 165 about the same as when we put them on.approx 200hp honest 12 mph . I couldnt say enough. I like the product and it was pleasure doing business with Dustin. My new long blocks are expected to make close 800 hp with stock heads reworked. The engines are a copy of ones Whipples has already done.

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Jason Saris In Bolton Landing NY...518 644 3080.

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I think someone on this thread needs to call me on the phone and discuss the issues he claims I BS'd him on. Just like he had to call Tyler Crockett and straighten out the issues he created for Tyler when he was claiming Tyler was ripping him off. This person seems to flip flop like a fish out of water. If I forgot to send his invoice it was because I was so pissed at what he did to me> I can bite my pride but he needs to realize that none of my claims are BS and I can prove it to anybody anytime. I don't sell used damaged equipment and I bet his new 800 HP motors, have the parts I sold him inside. If he doesn't like people selling specialty manufucturers parts to boaters than he is in the wrong industry, seems I have a lot of top companies and engine builders doing the same. If the non-marine shops he gets his work done at don't like someone else supplying the parts, then they should take the time an trouble to go find them themselves. Truth is no one else in the industry has 496 engine parts in inventory on the shelf ready to ship. Guess I should cool off here but I seem to have a basher on my hands. I'll just let our parts at Raylar speak for themselves and anybody that needs any quantity of references can call me personally.

Thanks for your support,
Ray @ Raylar

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Word of mouth is the best form of advertisment.Raylar take your own advise AND LET YOUR CUSTOMERS SPEAK.Ithink you should spend more time doing business,Less time HYjacking oso.NOT more than ONE BOAT RUNNING 270 threads.ALL those engine biulders I mentioned above have lots engines out there.One of them had to fix your heads .another told me last week the heads didnt come close to 50 hp over stock.Like I said above all the parts he sent me were common and can be bought anywere.except for rusty cranks. I could care less if your stuff works.All the competition bashing youve done will come back to haunt you.Its just amatter of time.I know Im not the only one that feels this way.Ive done my homework and your transparet in 496 industry .You just keep HYJACKING 496 threads .I geuss its free advertisment! 100hp or150hp claimed by Ralars own words Actual in water use+14 mph .Sorry Ray some of us know better truth be know it takes 17 to20hp to make 1mph in a boat and double in twin engines. WHEN you pay for the ad it can be manipulated sorry.Just to get back to the subject this guy looking for someone to help him I think he should do some more research.like I said before you dont have beleave do some homework.I would think the people that would be installing these so called great parts would be the shops that are allready playing with 496s Call any three of the above engine shops an then make a decision

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Some one here only has 56 threads in which he has spent most bashing and trash talking. I have plenty of folks on OSO who will speak to the content of my threads. I only answer about the things I am knowlegeable in and can give solid advise in my threads. I don't hyjack threads and I am certainly done trading barbs with someone who does not know enough about 496 engines to stay out of his own way.

Ray @ Raylar

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GOOD now take your own advice .Whip the guy in your shipping department,fire the person that fogets to send invoices,and definatly quit useing UPS they are F KIN up your business LIKE I SAID BEFORE WORD OF MOUTH IS THE BEST ADVERTISMENT .ITS ALL ABOUT YOU 100 150hp shows 14mph BS

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GOOD now take your own advice .Whip the guy in your shipping department,fire the person that fogets to send invoices,and definatly quit useing UPS they are F KIN up your business LIKE I SAID BEFORE WORD OF MOUTH IS THE BEST ADVERTISMENT .ITS ALL ABOUT YOU 100 150hp shows 14mph BS I never claimed to be an engine guy .Thats why I listen to you . youve set of my bs detecter to many times Id hate to see any nieve OSO members fall for same crap. Quit trying to flip this around every thing I said is true you cant dispute it . All you can do is bash me ,OH IGUESS YOU CANT WHIP OR FIRE YOUR SELF .I still dont understand why you rip all the part no. of my parts.seam sneeky. an boy did I get a laugh when I asked maula about those piston you desighed and then they did said you were a good customer.

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so how many hours did you get a quote for to do it?

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Excuse our present basher. The thread is about where and how to get our Raylar kits installed. I have been in contact with Chris and given him a reference. If you OSO'ers can give him any good ones it would be appreciated. As for the installation costs I can tell you that the 15 or so that have already been completed have cost about $2,000 to $2400 in shops who have pulled the motor for the changeout. It will obviously depend on the boat, whether or not the motors pulled and who's doing the work. There are about 10 more kits that have shipped and will be installed in the next few weeks and I am sure their will be posts and articles about those. Glad to see more interest in the East as the weather improves. Going to be a fun year for a lot of 496 owners.

Ray @ Raylar

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Fifteen kits = one reference? Those shops must be in another country. fifteen kits ,fourteen mph .JUST BROKE THE BBBBSSSS DETECTOR. 25 customers = ONE MOTER RUNNING. Speaking of bashing It was just last week when you HYJACKED the Eddie marine exaust resaults.I also thought it was very funny how you were perched in Miami on Arizona speed an marines 600HP 496,an when it was covenient you told me it was discontinued because of intake issues.Ive read on oso some of your other ASM. bashing , You were all over the ASM,s kit installed on the Baja .THE other thing you seam to like to do is explain every one else,s 496 product an then tell whats wrong with it .do you want MORE. All my info came out of the side of Rays neck. I bet Tyler can make more hp from stock heads then your heads ,Your heads = to 1.5#s boost on my engines SO glad I didnt waist my money. theGOOD news is there is another cylinder mfg. coming out with HEADS.

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RAYLAR: why did you delete all that Knowledge,Imean bashing,hyjacking,and BBBSSS.ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE GONE. Not I saved it.DATES AND TIMES IN YOUR OWN WORDS.

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Wow did this turn into a cluster F.... well, while I have heard from ONE dissatisfied Raylar customer I haven't hear from any others that were or weren't,, so I guess the question IS,, who has Raylar parts on their boats and what was your experience ??

On another note,, the reason I started this thread,,, Yes most shops I have spoken with want to remove the entire engine to do a cam and head swap,, a little excessive in my mind and very costly,, around 1,500 one place wanted 1,800 but that was with a dyno run,,, guess that would have put the naysayers and this arguement to bed.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: If I have to pay 2,000 to somebody to install a cam and some heads plus the expense of the kit,, its just not worth it in my mind for 75 hp.. That was the purpose of this thread,, find somebody who is qualifed to do the job on the side/weekend/shop/no shop, I don't care,, just want a reasonable price,, and 1,500 - 2,00 is not reasonable in my mind.. :( I will keep calling around..

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Those prices are fine...1800 with a dyno run is good..always very good to dial with a dyno after a job.