Originally Posted by o2man98

Yes the AMSOIL Marine motor oils are full synthetic base stocks.
10w-30 = http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/wct.aspx?zo=1132530
10w-40 = http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/wcf.aspx?zo=1132530

The nice thing about these oils is that they use a base and additive package very similar to the new Motorcycle Oils. This is the chemistry that I see AMSOIL going to in more and more of their motor oils in the future. They have also added the Small Engine SAE30/10w-30 oil which also share similarities. http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/ase.aspx?zo=1132530

Take a look at this report that shows how the AMSOIL motorcycle oils stand up to the comp. http://www.modernoils.com/media/pdf_...Comparison.pdf

Originally Posted by minxguy

In all honestly, I really can't beleive a modern day quality lubricant foams. The anti-foam additve that is used in oils is added at very low percentages and is probably already in the dertergent package that the blender buys.
I really do not know how you how you overfill a lower unit seeing how you fill from the bottom until it flows out the top hole, but stranger things have happened.
As far as you automatic transmission, overfilling wouldn't cause foam, what it causes is the oil to "puke" out from overfilling. Oil expands with heat, if you start with an oil level that too high, when it expands it will be even higher. It could "grow" enough to puke out the fill tube or push out a seal/gasket. This could be the same issue in a outdrive.
A quat of oil is a quart at 60*F. This is buy/sell temp of oil. At lower temps you have less than a qt and at higher temps you have more. This is the reason engine manufactures want you to check you oil the same way evey time. BMW automatics have to have their transmission oil checked at a certain oil temp, a real pain in the ass.
Anyway, I hoped I helped.

Ken

Originally Posted by Rage

That is good to hear that you can still get a full synthetic at lower viscosities since Mobil1 has reportedly abandoned full synthetic except for the high viscosity motor cycle oils.

Originally Posted by o2man98

That is correct. It seems that all the new M1 EP oils are now a Group III petroleum base stock.

Regardless of the lies that Mobil tells you through their tech support this has been confirmed through gas chromatography testing. It is a shame that they decrease the quality of the product and continue to increase the price as if the quality was actually improving. What was ExxonMobils last quarter profit???

Seems that AMSOIL and Redline are about the only TRUE full synthetic oils on the market.

Originally Posted by Rage

Well that is where I am going. Is Amsol available by other than mail order?

Originally Posted by o2man98

Mail order IS the way to do it. By following the instructions at the link below you can purchase at cost much like a Sam'a Club membership and it comes right to your door. There are often locals that may have it but they will have to pay shipping to get it to them so that is added to the price and they will also mark it up some for profit.

If you do not want the membership, email the address at this link and you will be taken care of at cost without the membership.

http://www.modernoils.com/Purchase_at_Dealer_Cost.html

Ken

Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 1974354)

Did anyone happen to notice the sticker on the oil-fill cap on the new Ilmor 700's? It states Mobil 1 0W-40 factory fill. Is this oil cap a carry-over from the Viper or is Ilmor really filling these mills with 0W-40?

Originally Posted by phebus (Post 1970523)

What did you get grandma, a quart of V-Twin?

Happy Holidays, and thanks for all the advice.

Originally Posted by o2man98 (Post 1971433)

That is correct. It seems that all the new M1 EP oils are now a Group III petroleum base stock.

Regardless of the lies that Mobil tells you through their tech support this has been confirmed through gas chromatography testing. It is a shame that they decrease the quality of the product and continue to increase the price as if the quality was actually improving. What was ExxonMobils last quarter profit???

Seems that AMSOIL and Redline are about the only TRUE full synthetic oils on the market.