Marine Lubrication
#151
Baddog: Go visite Key Oil. They should cut you a good deal on Mobil. Tell them the ExxonMobil distributor General Petorleum sent you. They should cut you a deal so you don't have to go hunt the **** down
#154
Here's another oil that likes a lot of magnesium: Mercruiser's 25w40. Tons of ZDDP/phos too. Low calcium. Interesting oil, nothing else quite like it on the market.
Magnesium 1063
Calcium 422
Phos 1362
Zinc 1546
Moly 0
Boron 196
VIS @ 100C Cst 15.14
Magnesium 1063
Calcium 422
Phos 1362
Zinc 1546
Moly 0
Boron 196
VIS @ 100C Cst 15.14
#155
The good news is that Goldcap 15W-50 is now better than Redcap was. It has more ZDDP for anti-wear...and ...a bit more boron to keep your engines free of carbon and it does retain moly as Redcap did. All for 45 cents/qt more than Redcap in gallon containers at Walmart.
Everything I read is that any batches in question were out there in January...a Wallmart moves it's M-1 stock REAL fast.
Drain...change the filter...enjoy....it's a better product. All the recent most 6 month data tests bear this out.
Any synthetic oil will protect better than any conventional oil. Take a load off your bearings...
Everything I read is that any batches in question were out there in January...a Wallmart moves it's M-1 stock REAL fast.
Drain...change the filter...enjoy....it's a better product. All the recent most 6 month data tests bear this out.
Any synthetic oil will protect better than any conventional oil. Take a load off your bearings...
#156
Originally Posted by bglz42
Here's another oil that likes a lot of magnesium: Mercruiser's 25w40. Tons of ZDDP/phos too. Low calcium. Interesting oil, nothing else quite like it on the market.
Magnesium 1063
Calcium 422
Phos 1362
Zinc 1546
Moly 0
Boron 196
VIS @ 100C Cst 15.14
Magnesium 1063
Calcium 422
Phos 1362
Zinc 1546
Moly 0
Boron 196
VIS @ 100C Cst 15.14
Well ZDDP is for anti-wear...the rest are detergents....more of a concern that you need more detergency in a diesel engine or engines susceptable to carboning and coking.
Goldcap 15W-50
P-1223
Zn-1376
Vis @ 100C Cst 17.9 Holds viscosity extremely well and better than Merc's straight weight blend.
M-1 20W-50 V-Twin
P-1683
Zn-1823
Vis@ Cst 100*C 19.9 ...pitbull #'s
M-1.. V-twin rules...just want ya all to know that.
Remember...bob's guys and anyone in the know will tell you any similar synthetic oil is always better than a conventional oil. It's all about film strength...conventional oils NEED a ton of ZDDP in order to "survive"....synthetics while not needing as much "put it to better use"....
Now your job is to find me all the conventional oils with high ZDDP that come in with a csT@100*C of at least 15.14...it will be interesting to see if ANY multi-vis conventionals can and if so what ones.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 07-28-2005 at 05:04 PM.
#157
Originally Posted by tomcat
Stupid question, but are these engines with bad fuel dilution supercharged, and are they using excess fuel as a cooling/detonation control?
#158
We had the same problem with the Sterlings. There was water, and gas in the oil. We used the Mobil 1, but that's only b/c we sell it. If we didn't have an abundace around we would of used something else.
#159
Originally Posted by vandy021
We had the same problem with the Sterlings. There was water, and gas in the oil. We used the Mobil 1, but that's only b/c we sell it. If we didn't have an abundace around we would of used something else. 

Yup second best is a high ZDDP 40 or 50 wt..BUT Sterling told me they use 15W-50 M-1...if I COULD buy a Sterling I WOULD buy M-1.
FYI..Mercury Marine makes a really great conventional blended straight weight....if you want it conventional this is a good product friends.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 07-28-2005 at 09:28 PM.
#160
I keep getting bombarded for my "top ten list"
Now that we have Mercury 25W-40 analysis data we know a lot more about what they have found through much testing what is needed. My picks are the same:
If you want maximum protection a premium synthetic such as:
-Mobil-1 20W-50 V-twin
-Amsoil Series 2000 20W-50
-Redline 20W-50
-Mobil-1 Goldcap 15W-50 is fine for most all applications.
Then either Mercury 25W-40 straight weight blend.. or a straight weight 40 such as Kendall or Castrol.
Now that we have Mercury 25W-40 analysis data we know a lot more about what they have found through much testing what is needed. My picks are the same:
If you want maximum protection a premium synthetic such as:
-Mobil-1 20W-50 V-twin
-Amsoil Series 2000 20W-50
-Redline 20W-50
-Mobil-1 Goldcap 15W-50 is fine for most all applications.
Then either Mercury 25W-40 straight weight blend.. or a straight weight 40 such as Kendall or Castrol.
Last edited by Hydrocruiser; 07-29-2005 at 07:38 PM.



