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CrazyCat57 07-24-2005 03:49 PM

looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I am looking for a drive shower for a 1992 king cobra. If I cant find one, :( I will build one. Any advice will be appreciated.

FOUNTAINATLAST 07-24-2005 06:10 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
Not sure there is such a thing???!!! I hada King Cobra on my Liberator and looked for accouple years never saw or heard of a shower for it.... If you do find one post it here for others as a future reference.

fund razor 07-25-2005 10:31 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I never heard of a Cobra shower either.

Who needs one with a 100 ounce fluid capacity?

mopower 07-25-2005 11:58 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
Say what you will about King Cobras , but they have a much better lubrications system than any Merc. Large capacity and better circulation top to bottom and back and therefore keeps itself cool internally :cool:

So fuggetaboutit and just run it :D

CrazyCat57 07-25-2005 12:33 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I have a problem that when the drive gets heated up from a run of 4 to 5 miles at 3500 rpm I have no reverse untill the drive cools down and then everything works great. This happens continously every run. Had the boat to two different omc dealers , cables shifting linkage everything has been set by the book at the dealer. The next step will probably be doing the cone clutch and gears. This can be expensive without really knowing exactly what to look for. Any suggestions will be welcome. I was thinking if the drive ran a little cooler it might help. I just got the boat last fall and the hour meter only showed 50.4 hrs on it, but who really knows?It has about 80 hrs on it now. :(

fund razor 07-25-2005 12:33 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 

Originally Posted by mopower
Say what you will about King Cobras , but they have a much better lubrications system than any Merc. Large capacity and better circulation top to bottom and back and therefore keeps itself cool internally :cool:

So fuggetaboutit and just run it :D

That's what I was getting at. :D

fund razor 07-25-2005 12:37 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 

Originally Posted by CrazyCat57
I have a problem that when the drive gets heated up from a run of 4 to 5 miles at 3500 rpm I have no reverse untill the drive cools down and then everything works great. This happens continously every run. Had the boat to two different omc dealers , cables shifting linkage everything has been set by the book at the dealer. The next step will probably be doing the cone clutch and gears. This can be expensive without really knowing exactly what to look for. Any suggestions will be welcome. I was thinking if the drive ran a little cooler it might help. I just got the boat last fall and the hour meter only showed 50.4 hrs on it, but who really knows?It has about 80 hrs on it now. :(

I have two "regular" cobras. I had something like that happen when one didn't want to shift in either direction. It was the ESA getting unhappy when hot.

But only reverse is strange.

I guess that you dock slow and with your bow in?

I would ask Liberator21 (OMC guru) or maybe Iggy (drive guru).

Liberator21 07-25-2005 01:32 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I'll look into that. That's a new one on me.
Even if the ESA acted up, it should still go into reverse. It might clunk in, but it should still go in. When you get the problem, go under the engine hatch, and activate the micro switch with your finger. You should hear the engine stumble, and the rpm should drop off. If not, then you have an ESA problem. When this happens, is it difficult to shift into reverse, or the same as usual? Any weird noises when trying to get into reverse?

Paul

CrazyCat57 07-25-2005 05:01 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
The dealer that set it to factory specs adjusted the esa switch and made sure its working right. When it wont go into reverse the lever still shifts good but its just like its in neutral no noise at all. in fact it shifts so nice all the time you have to give it some throttle just to see if its in gear or not forward or reverse . Forward has never missed yet. It doesent seem to show up untill the drive gets good and warm. Thanks for your time in replying on this. :(

mopower 07-25-2005 07:02 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
Strange indeed :confused:

FOUNTAINATLAST 07-25-2005 11:01 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 

Originally Posted by CrazyCat57
I have a problem that when the drive gets heated up from a run of 4 to 5 miles at 3500 rpm I have no reverse untill the drive cools down and then everything works great. This happens continously every run. Had the boat to two different omc dealers , cables shifting linkage everything has been set by the book at the dealer. The next step will probably be doing the cone clutch and gears. This can be expensive without really knowing exactly what to look for. Any suggestions will be welcome. I was thinking if the drive ran a little cooler it might help. I just got the boat last fall and the hour meter only showed 50.4 hrs on it, but who really knows?It has about 80 hrs on it now. :(

Exactly same problem I had, long run no reverse. Changed everything including clutch cone. Could not resolve the problem, just learned to deal with it.... If you ever find something that fixes the problem post it to inform others, good luck.

Liberator21 07-25-2005 11:02 PM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I've got to do a little more research on this:)

CrazyCat57 07-26-2005 08:48 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
Do you know witch gear is the reverse? I was thinking if the gear above the clutch is the reverse gear it could be running a little warmer then the lower gear and possibly expanding from heat and losing machined tollerance causing the slip. :(

CrazyCat57 07-30-2005 11:23 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
I am trying to keep this thread alive hoping to find any possible reasons for this happening. I did get a shower built, but havent been able to try it yet. After I built it I found a picture of one at RaysonCraftBoats.com, on a cobra. I do have a chalky white build up on the top bearing cap and just a little build up on the casting towards the transom on the starboard side only. Liberator 21 did you come up with any possible causes or things to look for? :(

swood5991 08-29-2005 08:31 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
Lets keep this post alive, because I have a 1991 Liberator 464 with the same problem. Once started (at the dock) there are no problems going in forward or reverse. After about a 20 minute ride, no reverse. Liberator 21, have you found anything on this?

Ted G 08-29-2005 08:47 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
It sounds like the cone clutch is siezing on the shaft when it gets hot. This is causing it to bind and not slide into the gear. Remember that the reverse one is spinnig freely on the shaft when you are in forward so any loss of tolerance here would create a lot of heat and friction. Once it got heated enough it would stop spinning so no further damage would occur (like scoring or scuffing). The only fix would be to enlarge the center ever so slightly-very risk business unless you're OMC.

swood5991 08-29-2005 10:18 AM

Re: looking for drive showerfor king cobra
 
A couple of things I have found out about this problem. Could be as simple as having too much gear oil, preventing the cone from fully engaging. The oil must also be fully synthetic. Standard gear oil will cause problems.

Does anyone know about the spring on the shift linkage to take up the different strokes of remotes. If the spring is missing, maybe it was adjusted for full forward, and sacrificed reverse....


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