454 questions......
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I have a 1989 330hp 454. From my research, the cast pistions are the limiting factor. Detontation will cause them to frag so be conservative with timing. I've read they will not survive long above 5,000rpm
I've heard a good cast crank and 3/8" rods built up with good hardware (ex: ARP) will live at 6,000rpm.
I'm putting 781 heads (with large 1.88" exhaust) and a Performer 2.0 intake before the season starts. Don't know what it will gain me, but hoping to see ~360hp.
I've heard a good cast crank and 3/8" rods built up with good hardware (ex: ARP) will live at 6,000rpm.
I'm putting 781 heads (with large 1.88" exhaust) and a Performer 2.0 intake before the season starts. Don't know what it will gain me, but hoping to see ~360hp.
#12
Originally Posted by ECeptor
I have a 1989 330hp 454. From my research, the cast pistions are the limiting factor. Detontation will cause them to frag so be conservative with timing. I've read they will not survive long above 5,000rpm
I've heard a good cast crank and 3/8" rods built up with good hardware (ex: ARP) will live at 6,000rpm.
I'm putting 781 heads (with large 1.88" exhaust) and a Performer 2.0 intake before the season starts. Don't know what it will gain me, but hoping to see ~360hp.
I've heard a good cast crank and 3/8" rods built up with good hardware (ex: ARP) will live at 6,000rpm.
I'm putting 781 heads (with large 1.88" exhaust) and a Performer 2.0 intake before the season starts. Don't know what it will gain me, but hoping to see ~360hp.
The large ovals with larger than stock valves are worth about 20HP, but with a cam change are worth a lot more.
A Performer intake is worth about 10HP over the low rise cast unit.
360HP seems like a resonable upgrade, but if you make a cam and exhaust change the engine could make over 400HP at 5000rpm.
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My cousin had a pair of Merc 454cid 330hp engines modified a few years ago. He had the engines blue printed/balanced and made sure the main saddles were correct with a align hone machining process.
Two bolt mains, cast cranks, cast pistons, 3/8" rods, aftermarket dual plane hi-rise intakes, hydaulic flat tappet 218*/226* .515"/.515" on 110* lobes, 8.6 comp ratio, 32* timing, Holley 800cfm carb, large GM cast iron oval port heads that had been modified with 2.19" stainless intake valves and 1.85" exhaust valves with some bowl/pocket/short side radius porting work done to them by JimV.
On Tom Earhart's dyno they made 461hp @5100rpm and 510lbs of torque @3600rpm and stay nice and flat up to 5100rpm with DYNO tubular headers. In the boat the engines have been installed with some DRY aftermarket GIL exhausts which will lower the HP by probably about 20-35hp or so as compared with the dyno header power numbers, but he is very impressed how much better/faster his boat now runs with all the mods he has done.
Two bolt mains, cast cranks, cast pistons, 3/8" rods, aftermarket dual plane hi-rise intakes, hydaulic flat tappet 218*/226* .515"/.515" on 110* lobes, 8.6 comp ratio, 32* timing, Holley 800cfm carb, large GM cast iron oval port heads that had been modified with 2.19" stainless intake valves and 1.85" exhaust valves with some bowl/pocket/short side radius porting work done to them by JimV.
On Tom Earhart's dyno they made 461hp @5100rpm and 510lbs of torque @3600rpm and stay nice and flat up to 5100rpm with DYNO tubular headers. In the boat the engines have been installed with some DRY aftermarket GIL exhausts which will lower the HP by probably about 20-35hp or so as compared with the dyno header power numbers, but he is very impressed how much better/faster his boat now runs with all the mods he has done.
#15
Originally Posted by RedDog382
454 Mag had rectangle port heads.
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Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
I ran my 1989 330HP/7.4 at 4900rpm, 36° total advance for 120hrs. The cast pistons will melt with this kind of abuse. When I tore down that engine, 2 of 8 cylinders had low compression because the rings were stuck to the pistons.
The large ovals with larger than stock valves are worth about 20HP, but with a cam change are worth a lot more.
A Performer intake is worth about 10HP over the low rise cast unit.
360HP seems like a resonable upgrade, but if you make a cam and exhaust change the engine could make over 400HP at 5000rpm.
The large ovals with larger than stock valves are worth about 20HP, but with a cam change are worth a lot more.
A Performer intake is worth about 10HP over the low rise cast unit.
360HP seems like a resonable upgrade, but if you make a cam and exhaust change the engine could make over 400HP at 5000rpm.
Head change was due to a crack in one of the stock peanut port heads. The upgrade to the 781 w/ large valves ($100 from a friend of a friend) was a lucky upgrade.
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So would this thing make any power with forged pistons, 188 heads, a bigger cam, and a holley 800?
HE HAS exhuast upgraded and roller rockers on the old heads (if I need to swith them I will)
OR
what is this motor worth to sell all freshened up? It ran fine but "used" oil. Oil loss was a leak around the oil filter relocation housing. He decided motor was out so lets build it...........
How about a whole motor transom plate bravo 1 package with freshened motor and Bravo with 300 hrs. what is all of it worth?
HE HAS exhuast upgraded and roller rockers on the old heads (if I need to swith them I will)
OR
what is this motor worth to sell all freshened up? It ran fine but "used" oil. Oil loss was a leak around the oil filter relocation housing. He decided motor was out so lets build it...........
How about a whole motor transom plate bravo 1 package with freshened motor and Bravo with 300 hrs. what is all of it worth?
#19
Originally Posted by ECeptor
The upgrade to the 781 w/ large valves ($100 from a friend of a friend) was a lucky upgrade.
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Another question......
How would a B&M 250 work with hypereutectic pistons better rod bolts some new bearings, some balancing and some beefier bolts to hold it all together? STOCK CRANK AND HEADS
Could it make good power using the stock peanut ports (for now)?
Would it hold up provided it doesn't get revs too high..... 5000ish?
How would a B&M 250 work with hypereutectic pistons better rod bolts some new bearings, some balancing and some beefier bolts to hold it all together? STOCK CRANK AND HEADS
Could it make good power using the stock peanut ports (for now)?
Would it hold up provided it doesn't get revs too high..... 5000ish?
Last edited by wtpowered; 03-25-2006 at 08:06 PM.



